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TehAgent 31 points ago +32 / -1

Pneumonia and Influenza deaths, specifically.

That is because those deaths are now being recorded as COVID-1984 deaths, and THAT is because an uninsured patient that dies from COVID-1984 gets the hospital federal bucks.

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Jabron661 12 points ago +12 / -0

BINGO! Hospitals are greed machines and will ALWAYS work any situation to make the most profit.

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Sneker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Verrry interesting...

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SBOJ_JOBS -5 points ago +6 / -11

nope, this is total mortality. But CDC does provide Flu and Pneumonia breakouts

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TehAgent 12 points ago +15 / -3

Nope. Look at the text on the fucking graph dawg. Its right there at the top.

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SBOJ_JOBS -7 points ago +5 / -12

Nope, the label on the graph plainly says "US All Deaths - Weekly"

I have been looking at the FluView web site for some time. I have pulled down all of the data into my own spreadsheets and looked at it several different ways. You clearly have no clue as to even the order of magnitude of weekly flu deaths.

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SBOJ_JOBS 1 point ago +3 / -2

Those are simply the URL titles of sources. Now go to those and break out the data. Most weekly flu deaths closer to 500.

500 x 52 = 26,000 plus a few "hotter" months during flu season

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SBOJ_JOBS 3 points ago +4 / -1

I took a snapshot here for those with limitations preventing them from actually checking the source:

https://i.maga.host/2PEbZqt.png

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CoreyAnder 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was also trying to see how the numbers for flu and pneumonia were lower. The closest I could find is that wave chart in your screen print. I haven’t shared this graphic since I couldn’t validate it.

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TehAgent 4 points ago +7 / -3

Ok chief. Now look above that.

Multiple people have pointed this out to you already. The source URLs even say flu specifically.

You really need to fully read and evaluate what youre looking at. People like you are responsible for spreading misinformation.

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SBOJ_JOBS 1 point ago +4 / -3

Had I done this chart I would have placed those source URLs at the bottom to prevent this confusion, but the author likely expected more of his readers. The weekly flu deaths in the US average close to 500 not 40,000. You are almost 2 orders of magnitude off. Perhaps you should have actually gone to the source pages provided and looked for yourself.

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TehAgent -1 points ago +3 / -4

Or you could just stop denying that you failed to read the information provided to you and were wrong. Either or, its whatevs. We are correct and you are not.

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HillarysHairyAss 2 points ago +3 / -1

Project much? He is correct, you are not. Open the links and see for yourself.

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SBOJ_JOBS 2 points ago +3 / -1

I have run across a few people who absolutely insisted they knew what they were talking about but had no clue. Adding one more to the list.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

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HillarysHairyAss 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are correct here. Anyone who actually opens the links provided can see this. Specifically, the last link to the raw data, there's an 'All Deaths' column and then columns for Pneumonia and Flu. The chart posted by OP clearly graphs total deaths.

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nuhbin 18 points ago +18 / -0

CNN: Trump's quarantine is causing a sharp rise in population, surely this will kill the environment even faster than Greta expected

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RlzJohnnyM 7 points ago +7 / -0

SO APPARENT THEY CODED ALL DEATHS TO CHINESE WUHAN FLU

FUCKING SCUM

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Jabron661 5 points ago +5 / -0

How can they blame Trump for a high number of deaths if there aren't any? Why make them up of course.

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Razeontherock 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not "weird" in any way. The reporting standards for cause of death have changed. Medical workers report that deaths from all sorts of unrelated things get attributed to Wuflu.

Our numbers are all messed up and they're lying to us.

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SBOJ_JOBS -4 points ago +3 / -7

nope, this is total mortality. But CDC does provide Flu and Pneumonia breakouts

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TehAgent 4 points ago +5 / -1

Once again, you need to read the graph. Look at the top. It specifically says Flu and Pneumonia.

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SBOJ_JOBS -1 points ago +2 / -3

Nope, the label on the graph plainly says "US All Deaths - Weekly"

I have been looking at the FluView web site for some time. I have pulled down all of the data into my own spreadsheets and looked at it several different ways. You clearly have no clue as to even the order of magnitude of weekly flu deaths.

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SBOJ_JOBS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Had I done this chart I would have placed those source URLs at the bottom to prevent this confusion, but the author likely expected more of his readers. The weekly flu deaths in the US average close to 500 not 40,000. You are almost 2 orders of magnitude off. Perhaps you should have actually gone to the source pages provided (i have many times) and looked for yourself.

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TehAgent 1 point ago +2 / -1

Now look above that.

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dandylionsummer 5 points ago +6 / -1

What is the original source for this graphic?

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maddog_dad 4 points ago +4 / -0

Original source appears to be data from the cited CDC weekly archives download. It's a csv file you can load into a spreadsheet and graph.

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SBOJ_JOBS 0 points ago +4 / -4

The data comes from here:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

The OP likely downloaded the data into a spreadsheet and graphed it. The last week shown here is week 12, ending March 21. That week an estimate based on 89% data with the "final" numbers (subject to later revision) to be published Friday evening. Through March 14 (week 11) the US had about 45,000 fewer deaths compared to same period 2019.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you shoot yourself in the head, but you test positive for COVID during autopsy, you died of COVID.

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Keiichi81 4 points ago +4 / -0

Proof regular seasonal flu and pneumonia deaths are being attributed to China Flu to inflate our national numbers. If I'm reading this right, there's about an average of 12,000 deaths over those last 3 weeks due to influenza and pneumonia that have just vanished. So either the number of people this year catching influenza and pneumonia inexplicably dropped off a cliff starting in March, or those numbers are going elsewhere.

Even if you attribute half of that drop to social distancing and people taking greater precautions against infections in general, that's still like 6,000 deaths unaccounted for. How many deaths due to China Flu have their been in the US? 10,000. 🤔

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HillarysHairyAss 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you follow the bottom link on the chart above, you can get the spreadsheet data from CDC.

2019 week11 Total deaths = 57,869 Total Pneumonia deaths = 3,979 Total flu deaths = 510

2020 week 11 Total deaths = 47,655 Total Pneumonia deaths = 3,203 Total flu deaths = 491

2019 week 12 Total deaths = 57,086 Total Pneumonia deaths = 3,795 Total flu deaths = 479

2020 week 12 Total deaths = 40,002 Total Pneumonia deaths = 2,930 Total flu deaths = 331

2019 Cumulative first 11 weeks Total deaths = 639,321 Total deaths from Pneumonia = 43,080 Total deaths from flu = 4,209

2020 Cumulative first 11 weeks Total deaths = 604,807 Total deaths from Pneumonia = 39,576 Total deaths from flu = 5,209

2019 Cumulative first 12 weeks Total deaths = 696,407 Total deaths from Pneumonia = 43,475 Total deaths from flu = 4,688

2020 Cumulative first 12 weeks Total deaths = 644,809 Total deaths from Pneumonia = 42,506 Total deaths from flu = 5,540

Edit: I'm slightly confused by the 2019 yearly death count for flu, which is 7,448, while Pneumonia is 166,865. My only guess is that many flu cases turn into Pneumonia and are then categorized that way.

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Limevspink [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is ALL deaths not just P&I or Covid America has around 53k deaths per week average. Drop is huge

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JeremiahKassin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Flu and pneumonia are being categorized as covid to bump the numbers because hospitals get money for every coronavirus death.

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JeremiahKassin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh, it's worse than that. Recording flu deaths as 'rona deaths means effective treatments are going to be discounted as ineffective and potentially discarded, all because they're treating the wrong illness.