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aparition42 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well if we acknowledge the underlying mental health issues leading to suicide, that WOULD reduce "gun violence" numbers by more than half.

But who cares about actually helping people with mental health issues right?

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Schiffblower 2 points ago +2 / -0

His argument makes no sense

We’d love to see less gun deaths and wouldn’t they as well?

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ThomasGiferson 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's a strawman. What I'm personally critical of are patients who've tested positive, and died, but where COVID-1984 played no role in their deaths or no discreet, identifiable role. Frum is ignoring the fact that this happens.Terminally ill patients on palliative care have been counted as COVID-1984 deaths already. They were already dying. The fact that the virus may have hastened their death by a day or two, if it did, should not be enough to count as a COVID-1984 death, since it obscures how lethal this virus is. We need good stats that tell us how lethal the virus is so we can make good decisions about what to do, weighing various costs and benefits.

Cases in which someone dies from acute respiratory failure, because they had underlying problems that hastened that failure, can be categorized differently. I'm fine with that. If COVID-1984 starts killing people with high blood pressure at high rates, then that tells us something about how lethal it's going to be. But we don't even really know that at this point.

The fact that Frum is trying to obscure the issue signals to me that he knows the Gates/Fauci/Brix team is vulnerable here.

And he's ignoring one of the biggest problems here. Categorizing non-positives as COVID-1984 deaths because they had similar symptoms, for the sweet government $$$, as if no one before this has died of pneumonia or liver failure, is huge problem, which also inflates the death toll.

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jgardner 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wish the CCPVirus would strike the CCP headquarters in Beijing.