I think I can say a few things about models that will move he ball forward. Junk them all. Clean up the stats expressing the actual facts, and make decisions based on those and history. Stop pretending that you can mathematically model things you can't. And stop pretending those models are sacred, because science.
The thing is, there were other experts who were not predicting doom and gloom but none of those voices were being amplified by the media. The only voices we were supposed to listen to were the Bill Gates funded experts, especially those at the IHME. Terrifying to think one super rich nerd was able to drive public policy. Like you said, they threw out a ton of research and historical data to instill panic in the public and push for measures that were likely counterproductive. I don't blame Trump- he's being informed by the "experts" around him. But when those experts aren't giving him the full picture like they are supposed to do, and I seriously doubt Fauci and Birx (whose spouses are Dem operatives) were, I've got a problem with that.
You seem to forget how many people on the right were saying the same shit Gates-n-Fauci was, but they are being left out to give this impression that it was just some one-sided push.
Just remember, the original models were largely based on what we were seeing in Italy and France. Before statistics piled up here, we had to assume a similar effect may have happened here. Sure, we mitigated well and have a better heath care system, but ultimately the models were revised because of that.
If they were still using the original models, we could sound the alarm.
Italy gets destroyed by infectious respiratory diseases every year. It's a topic of study. Assuming a similarity with Italy was not sound at any point. the "models" should have accounted for the obvious, or else they were always going to be wrong.
What of the UK? Their numbers aren’t good compared to ours.
I think Trump made the right decision based on what he was looking at in real time. Fortunately, we are revising down and will open back up for business sooner than originally thought, but at no time should we have let this virus rip unmitigated throughout our populace.
I wasn't aware that France and the UK were hit as hard as Italy. I'm only talking about Italy, and how no one at any point should have been using it as a modeling example.
I think I can say a few things about models that will move he ball forward. Junk them all. Clean up the stats expressing the actual facts, and make decisions based on those and history. Stop pretending that you can mathematically model things you can't. And stop pretending those models are sacred, because science.
The thing is, there were other experts who were not predicting doom and gloom but none of those voices were being amplified by the media. The only voices we were supposed to listen to were the Bill Gates funded experts, especially those at the IHME. Terrifying to think one super rich nerd was able to drive public policy. Like you said, they threw out a ton of research and historical data to instill panic in the public and push for measures that were likely counterproductive. I don't blame Trump- he's being informed by the "experts" around him. But when those experts aren't giving him the full picture like they are supposed to do, and I seriously doubt Fauci and Birx (whose spouses are Dem operatives) were, I've got a problem with that.
Well said.
Do you know what the MS in MSNBC stands for?
Took me a second to remember. Good point!
Yeah, there's probably a bunch of younger pedes who don't know, so I'm gonna say it.
MICROSOFT
You seem to forget how many people on the right were saying the same shit Gates-n-Fauci was, but they are being left out to give this impression that it was just some one-sided push.
Gates is a very special actor in all of this, so no, no one on the right is like him.
But if you were to do that, you'd have to throw out the entire climate change hysteria.
Oh, wait ...
You don't say?
Just remember, the original models were largely based on what we were seeing in Italy and France. Before statistics piled up here, we had to assume a similar effect may have happened here. Sure, we mitigated well and have a better heath care system, but ultimately the models were revised because of that.
If they were still using the original models, we could sound the alarm.
Italy gets destroyed by infectious respiratory diseases every year. It's a topic of study. Assuming a similarity with Italy was not sound at any point. the "models" should have accounted for the obvious, or else they were always going to be wrong.
And France?
What of the UK? Their numbers aren’t good compared to ours.
I think Trump made the right decision based on what he was looking at in real time. Fortunately, we are revising down and will open back up for business sooner than originally thought, but at no time should we have let this virus rip unmitigated throughout our populace.
I wasn't aware that France and the UK were hit as hard as Italy. I'm only talking about Italy, and how no one at any point should have been using it as a modeling example.
99% said it. Must be true Cuz liberal science.