Newsweek shocked to learn that counting every death as COVID makes COVID the leading cause of death
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in other news, shockingly, non-preventable deaths like cancer and heart disease are on a sharp decline this week.
Doctors are baffled!
edit: Why won't Faucci and Brix say on air hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zync is off label and may present risk, but showing to be effective
you did! they even had to come out and tell you that the sharp decline in pnumonia deaths is due to a "reporting lag" and not their number games (while they go fudge numbers)
Seems like the #ChineseVirus might be magically curing all other diseases. Thanks, Winnie the Pooh, for infecting the world yet saving us all.
Praise be to dear leader.
auto deaths are cut by nearly 2/3
“If I had an 86-year-old with pneumonia but never tested for COVID-19 but we learned she had been exposed to her son who had no symptoms but was identified with COVID-19, it would be appropriate to diagnose on the death certificate COVID-19,” Dr. Scott Jensen said.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1248240574844542976?s=20&fbclid=IwAR26jg0jqisrnmqfhZretA3-QtYtSBUOz8_i26yV29PhpDdM0C0MUyY5GWI
TIL my 89 year old MIL died of COVID-19...in 2009.
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She was ahead of her time 🍺😔
ALSO, they never provide proof the alleged son in this case, ever even tested positive for coronavirus. (If well, why would he even have been tested anyway? He would never have been tested in CA as one example, even if sick you call in, go to ER if you can't breathe, believe me.) There are not enough tests available to test every well-seeming person, or sick person for that matter. Yet they connect all of the cases by saying the person had it, or were exposed to someone? BUT there is NO proof anyone had it at all, even the deceased. AND THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO CHECK AND FIND OUT IF IT IS TRUE. So we must begrudgingly accept their BS as true? You can't trust any of them on that side. That is the only truth. This has the fingerprints of the Left all over it. This is their MO. Lie to get what THEY want, no matter what or who else it hurts, they DO NOT CARE.
Doctors are instructed by the CDC to use their judgement on if the patient died of covid19. They don't have to test positive or test at all to put it as the cause of death. The can assume it as the cause for vital statistics reporting.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
Well not according to what I read that just came out from a Dr. who is also a state senator. Article states:
"Dr. xxxxxx explained that this is not a normal procedure. Dr. xxxxxx said for example if the same patient had pneumonia during flu season and he didn’t have a test confirming the patient also had influenza, he would never diagnose the patient with influenza on the death certificate".
Sadly they've already countered this line of reasoning with: Citizens are dying in their homes in NYC, and no one is testing them for Coronavirus, so TRUMP is lying about the numbers.
be 16 year old kid
get sick
mom gets you tested for flu
results come back covid-19 positive
5 days later, start to feel better
day 6 ran over by truck
day 7, News reports your death as Covid-19 Related
day 8 - The CDC and WHO are trying to destroy the American Economy and President Trump, this is all bullshit.
"The CDC and WHO are trying to destroy the American Economy and President Trump, this is all bullshit."
Just long enough to kick off a depression.
I've been steadfast from the beginning that this was an extremely exaggerated event with political motivation at it's roots. There is no other way to explain the discrepancy of 2 million anticipated down to 60,000.This is my 8th report on the Chinese Virus cases at the hospital where I work, we just got our FIRST TWO Chinese Virus positive cases this week. Top Ten hospital in the nation and just two case. We are on near complete lock down for TWO CASES total!
Is there anything to actually back up this claim? I get that a 90 year old person dying of pneumonia is going to get listed as covid, but hit by a truck? Assuming joke.
Yes, in Massachusetts there was a baby that died of suffication, or something similar that got classified as covid death. I believe Candace called the governor out and they might have retracted the death, but yes this is happening everywhere.
All these states want more Disaster funds, so they classify almost all deaths as covid - it is quit twisted what they are doing.
Yes, on a local level they are scamming for federal disaster aid money.
is it sad that poe's law is in effect here!?
Yes. Yes, it is.
SAD!
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/2nd-coronavirus-patient-dies-in-lehigh-valley-he-was-61-and-from-warren-county.html
So head injury=Chinese virus. Ok, I get it. 🤔
There are people finding out they died from COVID-19 by reading it in the paper.
Yes, you read that right.
We cut the average weekly deaths by pneumonia from 4k to 2k just like that!
COVID-19 drastically reduced the death rate of dozens of causes of death.
Cure for cancer is to give everyone the Beijing Shivers. Brilliant!
Cheng Chang Choke
Chinkenpox
It’s like Puerto Rico all over again. They’re going to try to hang all of these deaths on POTUS too.
Literal genocide, plus his 17,000,000,000 lies on record according to Lolitifact!
99% of which are sarcastic hyperbole he's said on twitter, with the remaining being shit that turned out to be true but the media never retracted.
So were all the deaths on the Titanic. Oh, the Rosie O'Donnell!
Thought I read: "rest in space."
All those socialism deaths? Nope, covid19.
The fear mongering case totals aren't adding up either. We have a count by zip code here in Florida.The totals by zip were less than the number of supposed cases we have. Nope, nothing to see here stay at home!
Same here in southern California. The tote board they show every night breaks the number of cases down by age groups, and the total is always way higher than adding up each age group.
They have to justify their "Pearl Harbor" week somehow. Fuckers.
Cooking the books is a long honered honored tradition among the morally unscrupulous
We need to change the way we record death statistics. Either every contributor needs to be listed as the cause or a new category of “mixed” needs to be added*.
doesn't matter, they'd still tack it on there to inflate the numbers.
Stage 4 cancer? In and out of conciousness? Cough once before kicking it? Covid+1
The hospitals get subsidized for each covid patient. With no electives, they are making zero money. So everything is covid.
If another 9/11 murder by muslims happened today it would add 3,000 coronavirus deaths.
Doctor: I tried to save him, unfortunately I couldn't!
Other Doctors: You tried to save the guy who fell in a wood chipper?
Doctor: If that was all it was, I could have saved him...
Other Doctors: What do you mean?
Doctor: He tested positive for Covid-19
Other Doctors: Darn Covid-19! If only we had a vaccine you could have saved him!
You think you're joking
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/2nd-coronavirus-patient-dies-in-lehigh-valley-he-was-61-and-from-warren-county.html
... he fell ... He died from a fall and happened to test positive ... So now he's a CCP Virus statistic ... This is a farce
Imagine someone in a car plowing through a lineup waiting to go into a store - then the cops gunning down the driver.
About a dozen Covid19 deaths in one fell swoop!
Hospitals are dead as fuck right now and losing money daily because all non essential treatment and surgery have been stopped, Hips, knees, backs, shoulders, other therapies, treatments etc. Unless life threatening, they aren't happening.
When the government came in and got insurance companies to agree to pay 100% of all costs of Corona Virus for their members, and the government said it will pay the tab for non insured, of course the fucking hospitals are going to try and count every possible death as Corona caused.
Hell the CDC even encouraged them to do so, it's pink elephant in the room that nobody is talking about.
Government wants the high numbers to keep the panic up and make you think they are justified in the draconian actions.
Hospitals want to keep money rolling in while they have been shut off from normal revenue streams.
Doctors and Nurses want their paychecks to keep coming.
And, building on that, the insurance companies were glad to waive deductibles and copays because they are swimming in cash right now.
Premiums keep coming in but utilization of the healthcare (claims to them) fell off a cliff.
Insurance companies are flush while hospitals are running out of cash.
So you'd rather those empty hospitals be filled with corona patients that didn't quarantine? Because thats what wouldve happened, 1 million projected deaths with no quarantine or social distancing measures.
Empty hospitals now prove regions are 1) prepared for an outbreak 2) not experiencing an outbreak.
Yes, and Coronavirus is NEVER going away entirely.
Everyone on the planet will come into contact with it. You, Me, and the leaker who you named yourself after.
Your only chance of survival isn't a ventilator (as high as 93% death rate on one btw). Your highest chance of survival is getting it, and fighting it off. You might've even already done that. No one knows.
Democrats will end the quarantine on November 4th 2020, no sooner. My state is already saying quarantine until August. In a matter of 3 weeks, it went from April 15th, to mid June, to late July, to August now.
If only we could capture the doomsday porn angle and expose the real doomsday scenario: our catastrophically corrupt govt and their media minions. One example: our own people and representatives are currently trying to downplay a possible "cure" to a global pandemic.
You should move to a red state. People are piiiiisssssed.
It's like the white people who make a show of how bad white people they are to show they're one of the good ones. The people who decide who the Extra Good People are told them to do that, so they go hard until they actually believe it.
On the plus side, I'm seeing less and less of that type of response, though. Of course, it took years of humiliating themselves with their retardation to get there.
I was wondering the same thing in February when people here were telling me it was "contained in China".
Fun fact: If Jeffrey Epstein had been found dead today in his cell it would have been classified as a Chinese virus death.
Lol, now that’s bullshit.
Exactly - it’s not true.
Why can't we just give cancer and heart disease Coronavirus? That would kill them too and then we'd be ok.
/liberal thinking
There is a counter-point - if you couldn't get a treatment slot for your chemo because all the beds and doctors were taken up by coufs - and you die - how do you classify it?
Cancer death? Well, if you got treatment perhaps not - but you'll never know ... because you're motherfucking dead. While dead I'm pretty sure you won't care about classifications, semantics or what Newsweek said. Because you're motherfucking dead.
then this person didn't die from covid, they died because of the response to covid
But - as you say - it is related.
It's like a disruption from an earthquake. They may not have been killed 'by' the earthquake - but the earthquake had a knock-on effect rendering services unavailable increasing the overall deaths.
I think what's more important is the net-deaths vs the gross as defined by Scott Adams who is eschewing 'reported numbers' for deaths higher than the historical average (which makes sense - if the numbers spike overall compared to the usual mortality rate - that's the actual viral impact). It's the 'extra' deaths that are of interest over and above the normal death-rate. The 'way' they died isn't as important as 'how many more died'.
But people here are saying there's been a suspicious decline in cardiac and cancer deaths, where is sauce for this?
that's not how death certificates work.
A doctor can put whatever they want and however many things they want on one.
The complaint is that Dr Brix is telling Doctors that if the patient was symptomatic (coughing), Covid should be listed as one of the causes regardless of whether a test was performed or if they died struggling to breathe.
Leading to the poe's law: If you walk in the door with AIDS and stage 4 cancer and cough or have a fever, COVID would be on your death certificate
The joke is that this is new guidance from the US government
6 months ago, someone with AIDS and cancer that died with a sneeze wouldn't list the common cold on their death certificate.
Cucking the books
They have been waiting for this headline. This is what its been all about.
Why can’t we get one reporter to destroy them?
By this logic, the Sanders campaign died from the Wuhan Flu.
A volcanic eruption in Pompeii was found to have caused an entire village to succumb to COVID.
kobe died of CV
He was the best quarterback the Red Sox ever had. He got at least one hat trick every game.
Original:
COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the deadliest disease in the United States, killing more people per day than cancer and heart disease.
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TRUTH:
COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the most profitable disease in the United States, making hospitals more money per person per day than cancer and heart disease.
But I thought these money making hospitals were empty currently? Isn't that what everyone here is saying?
The federal government is guaranteeing payment for all covid-19 related patients. That means no more indigents. Everybody now becomes a guaranteed paid customer.
Why in the fucking hell are they counting deaths like that? It makes us look like sick idiots letting EVERYONE get infected and die from it.
WTF?
$$$$$$ hazard pay
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Weird that the deaths for non-Covid pneumonia have gone down so much...
Sauce?
Shocker.
seriously, people need to watch Icke's interview on London Real. It raises some serious questions about the efficacy of the tests and also the cause of death reporting.
So many people with various illnesses or other stress factors can show up as positive for CV-19 ....
OANN needs to ask at the next presser: "How did the experts get the numbers so wrong, and why should we believe them now? What is the reason our country is still closed for business?"
stickied, mods==gods
Disgusting thing is they are testing everyone. Tragically and sadly my aunt passed away Monday. She has succumbed to drug addiction. She was relatively young in her early 50s. She was effectively homeless and was stealing/bumming off her sisters for decades refusing any true help...only wanting money to feed her addiction. Though she OD'd on fentanyl they tested her for COVID19. She tested negative, but the very fact they tested someone that died from overdose shows the lengths they are going to inflate the deaths from this disease.
I'm sorry for your family's loss. Addiction is a hell of a thing, and judging by the age/gender, it's highly likely she was addicted by doctors who were treating the "5th vital sign" in the 90's.
Also sucks some asshole downvoted you, i upvoted to bring you back to even.
Perhaps they tested her because they are testing all deceased? It helps them track the spread of the virus.
They test because they get more money if the deceased tests positive
AR-14 kill more people.
Joe Biden
Can they tell me if the sun is going to rise in the morning?
To think people get paid to write this shit.....
I heard a guy got shot in the head and died. But the truth is he died of Wuflu.
i really wonder how long the sheep will continue to digest these blatant lies.
Democrats overjoyed.
When this is over it won't even be close to the top 10. Reopen the fucking country. NOW.
Dying with Chinese Wuhan Virus and dying BECAUSE OF China Wuhan virus are two different things.
Only a government bureaucrat could say with a straight face that they are the same thing.
did you make an account here just to be combative and then delete your posts when they get downvoted? Perhaps there is somewhere else more aligned with your interests?
oof, I hate to break it to you, but you get deported frequently
Your opinion is valuable, but this community might not be the best place for you.
They have no evidence. They are pointing to standard medical statistical methodology and saying ’See! They are inflating the numbers by naming COVID as the cause of death in people who died from COVID!’
Their logic is that anyone with a co-morbid condition cannot die from a virus.
So if you shoot someone who has Coronavirus, or is suspected of having coronavirus... its not murder because what you did is not the cause of death...
username checks out!
Reductio ad absurdum
Trump nearly cured all diseases other than China Flu apparently
And the models are still wrong!
Next we will see the isolation-induced suicides being labeled as covid deaths.
It's been rumored that COVID killed The Donald on little-respected Chinese website, Reddit.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
Anonymous sources familiar with Reddit's thinking can corroborate this.
Couldn't we have said when 9/11 happened that terrorism becomes the leading cause of death in the U.S.?
Have we gone over 11 million Covid deaths yet? Abortion tracker: https://www.worldometers.info/abortions/