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keepwinning 104 points ago +105 / -1

CNN: Trump continues to push an unproven therapy that FAILS to cure MILLIONS.

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keepwinning 36 points ago +40 / -4

Completely unlike marijuana.... Lefties are such hypocrites

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LugNuts 19 points ago +21 / -2

this.

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ForHumans 17 points ago +19 / -2

Marijuana has been studied for literally centuries. 420 blazeit

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 18 points ago +22 / -4

The problem is they always forgot to right down the results. Then they made Mac and cheese.

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Lion-Ted 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually there’s tests from before it was illegal.

In one of Crowley’s The Equinox books he has a study in there in which they purposely tried to kill a dog with it and couldn’t. Pretty insane stuff.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh I know... Years of research in my twenties....

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GulagDweller 34 points ago +34 / -0

"BREAKING: New French Hydroxychloroquine study confirms 99.5% cure rate with 1000 patients and no cardiac toxicity."

That's not enough evidence to convince Libtards and Fake News, needs to be 110% cure rate when our President Trump has backed it.

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Rodrigo 19 points ago +19 / -0

And the French are hardly Trump fans!

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buco 13 points ago +13 / -0

Good enough for Fake News Fauci?

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NotProgCensored 14 points ago +14 / -0

Geez. Give him time to study the study. A year should do it.

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zhalias 6 points ago +6 / -0

110% cure rate

Orange Man Necromancer

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StumpSmasher 2 points ago +2 / -0

That explains their rant about McConnel on a throne of skulls...

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Rainman 21 points ago +21 / -0

Muh but people could get a rash...

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NotProgCensored 9 points ago +9 / -0

Think of all the people who will go blind.

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1776_DN 20 points ago +20 / -0

Watch them downplay this study and push the Bill Gates backed* poison pill study that is comparing HCQ (without the Zinc) against Vitamin C as a control.

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ClownTamer 11 points ago +11 / -0

That’s why it’s increasingly harder to talk to people that believe in that kind of ideology. You can’t really talk to them. They inherently believe you’re a corrupt stand in for your class and that all life is a power struggle. They won’t want to talk or reason or listen, they just want to destroy. Words don’t mean anything to them if they don’t work in their favor.

Just look at what happened when their girl lost the last election. Even the other candidate being elected and being in office for 4 years now didn’t change their mind about him being the president. “Not-uh! He didn’t win.To be elected, you have to be my girl, and my girl didn’t win, so he’s no the real president. DUH! We learned that in studies class. Go to college, you bigoted rapist.”

It’s a sad state of affairs when even making fun of things that they might say like that is pretty much still just things they actually say. “He’s not the president, there was a rape accusation!” “What about Biden?” “ORANGE MAN BAD!”

Value whatever you want, but if you don’t live up to your own values that you vehemently oppose upon others and persecute them for, you are a bad person, period.

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womp-womp-twice 5 points ago +5 / -0

They have no values, zero.

They wen't from 68' anti-war to war-mongering, John-McCain-praising, baby-killing-up-to-birth and whatever else have you, without any hesitation. Blue at all costs is only possible if you have no values that you adhere to. Empty shells they are, to be programmed by MSNPC and China News Network.

Remember in 2016 when Trump said the Dems want super-late-term abortion ("rip the baby from the womb of the mother in the 9th month"), and they all laughed and mocked him??

For the relevant debate part with Killary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqbm2YkMP0Q

Not long after, New York legalizes it, and Governor Coonface's mask slips and he talks about exactly that. Would you think they even notice that? Have a look how they portray that part of history:

Trump Makes Horrific False Claims About Babies at Rally | NowThis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thncOzqamTE

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, let the lefties have the vaccine.

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ClownTamer 6 points ago +7 / -1

“Trump knew about this drug back in 2017, he could have stocked piled back then, but chose not to because it would have helped women and minorities in need. He’s a murderer and a rapist.”

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daomino 47 points ago +47 / -0

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/pre-prints-ihu/ (COVID-IHU-#6). Use the 'abstract' and 'table' links.

This is a pre publication from a legit source.

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DonJr2024 37 points ago +37 / -0

Thank you. This is beyond huge. 0.5% mortality is already way lower but then they were all 74 years or older.

OMG this shit might work better than I even hoped.

God fucking damn. Can't wait to shove this in the face of my smug friends who went on about how irresponsible it was of Trump to mention it might help. In your fucken faces. Sorry. I'm passionate about this. It upends the entire lockdown process which is very very very important to many people I care about.

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HockeyMom4Trump 25 points ago +25 / -0

But muh lupus patients need their prescriptions and muh rheumatoid arthritis patients and Dr. Fauci needs more research and triple blind studies performed only on Thursdays

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DonJr2024 15 points ago +15 / -0

So it's awful and unproven and deadly but if you have Lupus or arthritis and can't get it for a day, your life is ruined.

The bigger lie is that Trump said it helps and then the supply got hoarded. No. The media said that but we have zero proof. One story of a person we've never met who called several pharmacies before finding some. Big deal. Probably a total fabrication.

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Gyrfalcon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who's hoarding? That was my question when half wit banned the use or prescription in Michigan.

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that1guy1981 13 points ago +13 / -0

Great point, I saw the 99.5% cure rate, and thought well that must imply a 0.5% death rate, which is possibly the norm overall. For a group of people 74+ .5% is about 1/5 the norm.

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kshoggi 9 points ago +9 / -0

If I'm reading this right, average age of subjects was 43.6 Looks like the 5 subjects who died were age 74+

They say .5% death rate is a big improvement over the other patients in the same hospital.

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memechallenger33 4 points ago +4 / -0

yes. Would be great to see some numbers on the outcomes of the other patients. Also to see the inclusion and exclusion criteria.

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daomino 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sorry to disappoint you, but your smug friends don't care about facts, just about narratives, and nothing will change their opinion about trump.

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DonJr2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh I know. TDS really is an apt name for a real disease.

But there are things that can be so obvious that they at least have to sit with a blank stare for a full 3 seconds before they try to divert and change the subject. Like a temporary blue screen of death.

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honeymussie 1 point ago +1 / -0

My mom stopped talking to me over this a few weeks ago after i told her about Trump's first mention of hydroxychloroquine (it had been around on the internet for a while but all she does is watch CNN so she obvi had never heard of it). Her latest now is that "remdesivir" looks promising bc they treated that one Asian guy in Washington a few months ago. I was like sure, the newer failed ebola drug that would be under patent, Gilead would love to pawn it off on another disease and make $$$. Can't wait to send this one to her. She literally won't admit this is working bc Trump said it. She'd rather have ppl die than this work.

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DonJr2024 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's really sad.

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BadBreath911 28 points ago +28 / -0

I don't have the link right now... But when I was searching for info, I found out that in the 70 year history of the drug, there has only been 4 cases of cardiac toxicity. Four.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 16 points ago +17 / -1

The cardiac issue is with azithromycin. There is a condition that is contraindicated.

I'm not an MD, but the condition apparently shows up on an EKG, and azithromycin makes it worse.

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Gyrfalcon 2 points ago +2 / -0

But not a problem for everyone who takes azithromycin. Allergic to Penicillin, I've taken azithromycin for decades, no issues.

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memechallenger33 7 points ago +7 / -0

There's a Long Island nursing home doctor who substituted doxycycline (also antibiotic and anti inflammatory, but no cardiac side effects) for Zpac and also got good outcomes.

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uvontheterrible 26 points ago +29 / -3

Not exactly accurate to say there is a 99.5% cure rate because about 1.5% of the patients are still hospitalized. So the maximum death rate would be 2% and would likely be lower than that.

The overall death rate in France, where this study was performed, is currently about 10%, so it seems pretty clear the drug is having a huge impact on the death rate.

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thxpk 13 points ago +13 / -0

The study abstract says "(98% of patients cured so far)." If the 16 remaining in hospital are released and thus recovered; that's a 99.5% cure rate.

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uvontheterrible 10 points ago +14 / -4

Yes, but as those 16 patients are not yet cured, you can't say the cure rate is 99.5%. The ultimate cure rate will be somewhere between 98 and 99.5%.

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thxpk 2 points ago +3 / -1

The abstract doesn't, only the OP did so hardly relevant.

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uvontheterrible 3 points ago +4 / -1

Well that's sort of my point. The post itself is misleading and doesn't accurately reflect what is in the actual study that's linked. Accuracy is a good thing.

Given that the fatality rate of this disease without medication might be anywhere from .5% to a few percent, depending on who you listen to. The difference between a 98% cure rate and a 99.5% cure rate is actually a big deal.

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JamesColesPardon -6 points ago +12 / -18

You got 'em bro sick fucking burn. How dare xe say that 99.5% are cured when its really 98%.

What an asshoe.

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uvontheterrible -3 points ago +10 / -13

Grow up.

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uvontheterrible 24 points ago +24 / -0

Do you have a link to the actual study? Sounds like this is huge.

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Thx1138 10 points ago +11 / -1

Worthless without link.

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mykillk 8 points ago +8 / -0

The link is the link to the study

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uvontheterrible 12 points ago +12 / -0

The post links to an abstract document, but someone linked to the actual source below.

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mykillk 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're right! I only briefly looked at it and thought it was the full deal.

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hollow_fang 17 points ago +17 / -0

GET THIS TO THE PRESIDENT

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pede-o-saurus 13 points ago +13 / -0

Oh, I think he knows.

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Dominion_Weyoun 8 points ago +9 / -1

Then why hasnt he used executive order yet to overturn all democrat bans of hcq? Thanks to cuomo here in ny, we are dead

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tchouk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump is actually not a fascist and actually cares about the constitution.

The lives saved cannot be justification for such executive branch steamrolling, because there are always lives to be saved.

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Jack_Burton 15 points ago +16 / -1

CNN has stories running right now calling the smaller French study “seriously flawed” and fear monger omg using some sock puppet doc. The memes are gonna be epic Update: found it! https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/health/drug-hydroxychloroquine-french-study/index.html

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Phil_Selway 5 points ago +6 / -1

By Elizabeth Cohen and Dr. Minali Nigam, CNN

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Gyrfalcon 1 point ago +1 / -0

We may get the Oprah croud. Even Dr. Oz is pissed about this.

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Dudemanfoo 14 points ago +14 / -0

It's curing people of believing the MSM too..

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SnowFungi 11 points ago +12 / -1

Oh no, now Bill Gates can't force us to take his genocidal-depopulation-vaccine.

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Latinoparatrump 9 points ago +9 / -0

My uncle in NYC is currently on Hydrox/Zythro and within 3 days of starting his regiment, his fever and other symptoms have decreased and his recovery is incredibly promising....yet, if you wander over to communist Reddit, you'll read nothing but negative posts on how this doesn't work, its a fraud and how Trump will profit from it.

It makes me sick.

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BirthHole 8 points ago +8 / -0

Pelosi will now start an investigation into why Trump is holding back getting Hydroxychloroquine to the American people.

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simon 7 points ago +8 / -1

I am all for HCQ and it sounds like it's really effective, but I don't know how they can claim a 99.5% cure rate. Wouldn't most of those patients have cleared the virus on their own naturally? What matters is how many more people survive when taking HCQ compared to the mortality rate when HCQ is not administered. Am I missing something?

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OrionStJames 20 points ago +21 / -1

Going off of data supplied by other comments (assuming it's accurate):

  • France currently has a 10% fatality rate
  • The study has a 0.5% fatality rate so far, with a maximum potential fatality rate of 1.5%

If you use France's entire population as a control and extrapolate these numbers out, you're looking at reducing otherwise-fatal cases by somewhere between 85% and 95% without taking other variables into account.

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simon 4 points ago +5 / -1

Thanks for the breakdown!

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Jabron661 4 points ago +5 / -1

This is good news for sure, but the data I would love to have is what effect does it have compared the following things...

doing nothing, doing things like IV vitamin C and other drugs, taking it early when symptoms first present vs taking it when you are on serious decline,

Basically, I just want to know if it helps a little bit vs a medium bit vs a huge bit, and if when it is given matters at all

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memechallenger33 3 points ago +4 / -1

There's a big study starting in PA to recruit a couple thousand people who were exposed to the virus but do not yet have symptoms, to see if giving HCQ vs. "placebo" Vitamin C (which isn't really a placebo, but anyhoo...) prevents infections.

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Kaboola 6 points ago +6 / -0

I like this but am finding personally those not in ICU at time of diagnosis recover fine but the ones that end up only starting treatment by the time they are already deteriorated and intubated sometimes die even before COVID-19 testing results.

I'd like to see a study where the patients are started on treatment only after shock, respiratory failure, and cytokine storm already kicks in.

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tchouk 3 points ago +3 / -0

It will not work very well, if at all.

If you're in shock and the treatment removes all traces of the virus, you're still in shock and your organs are shutting down.

In that case, you don't die from the virus, you die from the shock and organ failure.

In order to treat shock and organ failure, you need pills that heal shock and organ failure, and those do not exist.

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Kaboola 1 point ago +1 / -0

It makes a strong argument for empirical treatment

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skyhawk 5 points ago +5 / -0

"aNeCdOtAl!"

-Fauci, probably

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 5 points ago +5 / -0

Weird... Trump was right again

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4moreyears 5 points ago +5 / -0

But Drumphf said it works and he is stupid so it obviously doesn't work! Reeeeeeeeeeee

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rossagesausage 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's almost like a drug that has been around decades and is a complete known quantity works as instructed. Who fucking knew?

But please. Let Bill Gates chip me and send half of us into poverty by shutting down the country.

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spaceforce_maganaut 3 points ago +3 / -0

GEOTUS needs to link this.

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EmperorCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

The haters picked the wrong hill to die on.

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MeatloafFvck 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here's a real life proof from one of my Facebook "friends"

https://thedonald.win/p/FMXbcjMf/hydroxychloroquine-redpill-found/

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daomino 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's racist to say French study. Studies don't have nationality. Same for French bulldogs and French fries.

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ilovebooks3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just asked my local pharmacy here in Silicon valley if he had Plaquenil. Answer: nope. Shortage. Not good.

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debi_birx_scarf 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is old news. This was Didier Raoult's second trial done weeks ago.

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monk_of_trump 1 point ago +2 / -1

I dont want to shit on this or anything, but just keep in mind the recovery rate normally is like 98.5%. A better term would probably be survival rate. or recovery rate. Still sounds much better than not working at all though.

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Baryonic 3 points ago +3 / -0

That is the absolute recovery rate based on all known infected. The study in question was based on people hospitalized --- which had a 70% recovery rate for a while.

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monk_of_trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmm, I didnt see that in the abstract he posted. If thats the case, thats better. They werent very clear about it though.

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Pirate_Lafitte 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good stuff

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ZacPetkanas 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's fucking go!

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

And no bill gates vaccine

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Brendancs0 1 point ago +2 / -1

We don’t have a cure though... 😏