So if all the naysayers refer to the smaller studies of 100 or 200 patients as anecdotal, what do you call the collection of these bigger studies that are 1000 patients are mote such as this one along with the doctor in New York (Zelenko), a Corona Novel?
Just read the abstract. 5 of 1000 died, and 10 are still in hospital. Given the low death rate of an untreated population, I'd love to see the p-value for this study. My guess is that the margin of error is still too high to make any high confidence conclusions.
And don't get me wrong: I'm a huge Trump supporter. I also read all of Raoult's studies so far, and he does not apply much scientific rigor to them. Still waiting on the God Emperor to give his verdict based on US studies before I conclude on HCQ.
Looking at Florida's number yesterday and although I'm sure other parts like NY are vastly different, the number of deaths in the under 65 category (17% or 64) is small compared to the over 65 at risk group. (83% or 207) That's out of total over over 16,323 reported cases which everyone talks about the denominator being a lot larger than that. I also suspect that the under 65 group that have died likely had a lot of well known underlying conditions including diabetes, significantly overweight, and others, but we are not getting that information at all.
Just looking at Florida with about 21 million, if you are under 65, it looks like about a 1 in 328,000 overall chance of dying from this. Probably even less if you don't have any of the underlying conditions. Don't want to play down the loss of life, but can't we come up with a plan that addresses the at risk population to allow everyone else to resume operations?
The numbers you cite above from France show a 1 in 200 chance of death. The Florida numbers are showing 371 deaths from 2298 hospitalizations or about 1 in 6. Does that mean that the HCQ treatment in France is showing a difference of 1/200 vs 1/6 (deaths/hospitalizations)? Or is it 1/200 vs. 1/43 (Florida deaths/reported cases)? Hard to tell since the numbers are all over the place, but it would seem many of the chicken littles are really playing up the peril, Maybe looking at the numbers differently such as above and taking a more measured approach rather than the total fear and destruction of our way of life model of the msm would be in our overall best interest before we do more damage that we can't easily recover from.
Thanks for the reference to data from Florida. It's nice to have real numbers, and I agree with your assessment of them. The media should stop stirring up hysteria over this and instead focus on educating at-risk demographics.
There needs to be an event in the White House press room where all the MSM remove their panties and get these Trump Pills shoved up their rears. For science.
And zinc, I'm glad Trump mentioned that recently in a press conference.
So if all the naysayers refer to the smaller studies of 100 or 200 patients as anecdotal, what do you call the collection of these bigger studies that are 1000 patients are mote such as this one along with the doctor in New York (Zelenko), a Corona Novel?
Just read the abstract. 5 of 1000 died, and 10 are still in hospital. Given the low death rate of an untreated population, I'd love to see the p-value for this study. My guess is that the margin of error is still too high to make any high confidence conclusions.
And don't get me wrong: I'm a huge Trump supporter. I also read all of Raoult's studies so far, and he does not apply much scientific rigor to them. Still waiting on the God Emperor to give his verdict based on US studies before I conclude on HCQ.
Looking at Florida's number yesterday and although I'm sure other parts like NY are vastly different, the number of deaths in the under 65 category (17% or 64) is small compared to the over 65 at risk group. (83% or 207) That's out of total over over 16,323 reported cases which everyone talks about the denominator being a lot larger than that. I also suspect that the under 65 group that have died likely had a lot of well known underlying conditions including diabetes, significantly overweight, and others, but we are not getting that information at all.
https://floridadisaster.org/globalassets/covid19/dailies/covid-19-data---daily-report-2020-04-09-1654.pdf (page 3)
Just looking at Florida with about 21 million, if you are under 65, it looks like about a 1 in 328,000 overall chance of dying from this. Probably even less if you don't have any of the underlying conditions. Don't want to play down the loss of life, but can't we come up with a plan that addresses the at risk population to allow everyone else to resume operations?
The numbers you cite above from France show a 1 in 200 chance of death. The Florida numbers are showing 371 deaths from 2298 hospitalizations or about 1 in 6. Does that mean that the HCQ treatment in France is showing a difference of 1/200 vs 1/6 (deaths/hospitalizations)? Or is it 1/200 vs. 1/43 (Florida deaths/reported cases)? Hard to tell since the numbers are all over the place, but it would seem many of the chicken littles are really playing up the peril, Maybe looking at the numbers differently such as above and taking a more measured approach rather than the total fear and destruction of our way of life model of the msm would be in our overall best interest before we do more damage that we can't easily recover from.
Thanks for the reference to data from Florida. It's nice to have real numbers, and I agree with your assessment of them. The media should stop stirring up hysteria over this and instead focus on educating at-risk demographics.
Sadly, I suspect that will never happen.
There is nobody in an at risk group that doesn't know basic steps to minimize their risk.
Likewise MSM is doing everything in its power to keep people ignorant about HCQ, and here you are exacerbating that problem.
They are already screaming "no randomized control group." So they disregard everything he says and then start claiming they are making things up.
Will White House press pool read this?
Only if they are told to
So not even 5% got a poor outcome and the only ones that died were 74+. Sounds pretty good
Can we crowd fund someone to staple this to fauci's tiny, gender nonspecific face?
There needs to be an event in the White House press room where all the MSM remove their panties and get these Trump Pills shoved up their rears. For science.
There's your fucking study, Globalists! Take your "anecdotal" and stick it where the Sun.Don't.Shine!
I read that as professor DidLer... 😬
was his last trial 10 days?
Here's a real life proof from one of my Facebook "friends"
https://thedonald.win/p/FMXbcjMf/hydroxychloroquine-redpill-found/