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meatthesoyboi 63 points ago +63 / -0

If the government takes my property for the public good, they are required to pay me for it. If the government shuts down my business and tanks any chance I have of creating revenue, they should be required to pay me for hurting me for the public good just the same.

If the government is the cause of a problem, they should need to pay restitution, not leave destruction in their wake.

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PurestEvil 16 points ago +18 / -2

Well, but that's what governments always do. Even if they pay restitution, other people will pay for it. The government has no money. All its money comes from (future) tax payers.

Governments will never do good, and are naturally prone to turn into the swamp. Draining the swamp is just step one of many.

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PurestEvil 2 points ago +3 / -1

Of course. Things change. People find work again after things settle. Unemployment isn't permanent. Entrepreneurs with collapsed businesses won't go idle for the rest of their lives either. This is what you have to hope for with the new unemployed anyways, isn't it?

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hai_Priesty 4 points ago +4 / -0

Even if they pay restitution, other people will pay for it.

If I say "Your taxes last year paid for your own restitution this year" would it be better? Wasn't it what the taxes are for? For state of emergency like Pandemics?

Restitution are bad when they're used frivolusly and when they evidently favour one group over another based purely on identity and not based on merit or what they do, like when some far Left black people demands restitution for slavery or when some College kids demands Universal Income before they ever earn a single dime.

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PurestEvil 3 points ago +3 / -0

If I say "Your taxes last year paid for your own restitution this year" would it be better?

On individual basis, and in the sense of justification - of course. On a large scale, all that tax money has been spent (say: mostly wasted) already. Spending is much higher than what they tax anyway, which is why they must accrue crazy amounts of state debt, which translates into inflation and the devaluation of money savings. That's occurring in basically all countries.

For state of emergency like Pandemics

Well, governments never do what you think they should do. Politicians see unused money and immediately spend it to promote themselves by "doing something good." There is also a bureaucratic process where it is incentivized to spend all money in order to justify the need for more money the next time budgets are given. This can go for larger corporations, but especially for governments.

Restitution are bad when...

Fully agreed. I am not even arguing that restitutions are wrong. I am just saying that it's a bit more complicated and nasty than that, and we shouldn't delude ourselves about what is actually occurring.

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VaPnut 5 points ago +5 / -0

The loss of value in my 401K is every bit as important a loss as any loss a business or airline has suffered.

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1776er 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are going to take from our children's pockets to pay our restitutions...government should not have been able to shut us down in the first place this was a big expansion of powers. Very un-American

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Robert 2 points ago +3 / -1

Well said. There is no excuse.