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Unbroken_Arrow -1 points ago +4 / -5

This is common sense. If it DID roll through the population in November-January, where was the spike in hospitalizations? There wasn't one.

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DRKMSTR 2 points ago +2 / -0

I pity your karma. Nobody likes to hear the truth.

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GulagDweller -1 points ago +2 / -3

Yes, this, there would have been deaths from this and the source exposed at that time. This could not have hid in plain sight for months, NEVER. They definitely test for flu strains during flu season to assure the flu vaccine offered and given to millions is on target.

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maddog_dad 1 point ago +1 / -0

An 80-year-old shows up at the hospital mid-December with flu symptoms and pneumonia. He dies two days later. Are they gonna autopsy him, or just say, "Grandpa died of pneumonia"?

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GulagDweller 0 points ago +2 / -2

No, they don't do tests on everyone. Like anything, there are random testing and statistical models utilized. The point is, the random testing would have picked this up last year if it were prevalent in even a minor way. There is constant surveillance and laboratory confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization rates are obtained from the Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Network (FluSurv-NET), They would not miss a flu outbreak outside the targeted flu vaccination strain in my estimation, not for some 4-5 months anyway.