Yep. Even if it means they run out of Americans. Remember Egypt's briefly being ruled by the Muslim Bro'hood? They brought in Jordanians for police, because the Egyptian ones wouldn't turn against their own people but the Jordanians were happy to be paid to shoot at them.
Regarding gun grabbing. I think individual states will grab guns before the federal government does. So, states that crack down on gun owners will be left with no gun owners outside of a few cucked goofs that submit to the government. Gun owners will in turn congregate in states that recognize gun rights. These gun tolerant states will grow and become very successful, the gun grabbing states will turn into even bigger shitholes.
Nope. Every single effort to grab guns government forces need to take losses. Every. Single. Time! Soon they will run out of people willing to try.
Not a single State will be disarmed. We have more gun owners in the US than there are people in the biggest 10 militaries in the world. Making any attempt to do this is lunacy, and it is the only thing granting any of us any freedom. And here you are willing to forfeit EVERYTHING.
While I would hope that were true, I don't think it's practical. I live in a state that were we not so entrenched in a flu virus, they'd be looking at some way to make me a felon. I'm on my way out for friendlier pastures as it is, I'm not going to shoot someone because they ban something I'm not willing to give up. I'm just going to take my shit and leave.
Preventing this bs is much better, obviously. Too late for that. That does NOT mean just surrender! Do you really have no idea what the globohomos have planned?
Since 1913 their idea has been to bring the US population to our knees so that we forfeit our Nation and everything it ever stood for in exchange for gibs. We are almost there now.
The option to playing along while they install OWG (One World Government) removing all borders, freedoms, rights including property ownership, and issuing a global currency that makes us all serfs -
the option to that is killing them when they come to try. This does not require a gun. That is the tool of choice for many. Allowing yourself to be taken prisoner implies going peacefully, which would mean they do NOT take casualties. That is a losing proposition! The time is very close to deciding to live on your knees or being willing to die on your feet. I know which option our founding Fathers took. Our looming battle is similar in concept, but bigger in scale. And this time WE have the numerical advantage! The difference is more than a factor of 10. If we present the kind of resolve I'm talking about here, they will quickly run out of people willing to make the effort.
Ok, we're talking about 2 different scenarios. Mostly. Red flag laws are already in place and it's nothing more than a partial attempt to disarm our populace. I would say it's designed to neuter potential civilian leaders, but we could have a many hundreds of comments long post discussing red flag laws. And we probably should!
I'm addressing the current distress: Governors mass murdering us by denying sick people medicine, and prolonging this crisis. The only sensible recourse is to remove said Governors. This, and any possible government reprisal, would necessarily happen before any laws pass.
I will make a separate comment with a link from those in the know who agree with my independent assessment that there would be no such government reprisal. Please do read it.
We need to learn from history: Russia fell and became part of the USSR exactly as you describe. Soldiers went from house to house, farm to farm, taking over people and property without a fight. When I say we need to make them take casualties at every attempt, there is no jail sentence possible.
You see the big picture and therefore realize how truly awful it is; not just for one person, not just for one Nation, but for the whole world. And at a time when so many here are distracted by China, thinking that's our only enemy in this.
Please help me spread word of this "big picture," and how close the globohomos are to putting us all in checkmate. They're using this crisis as cover. Everybody knows "something's up," and it's bigger than or at least different from anything the authorities are telling us.
We need to plan. They've been planning for over 100 years. You and I can discuss this like rational adults, and strengthen weak spots in any plan. You've identified one: we need to be able to assess risk. Not everything every government Official does is so horrible that it's worth doing something to go to jail for. Many things people are irate over now can be beaten in Court, which will have to wait a while.
Initiative is an important strategic concept. If we remove all Governors simultaneously, we have the initiative. If we wait for them to outnumber us at our own homes we're on the back foot, giving them the advantage of initiative. I don't mind fighting for a cause this just, but I prefer fighting to win.
So now they're all lumped together? Like the left does with gun owners?
The Sheriff in my county stated he would not enforce stay at home order or any virus related guideline. Deputies I've talked to echoed that sentiment. You want to string them up too, because they have a star on their chest?
They lump THEMSELVES together. They cover for each other every day. Cops will be the first to tell you they view the world as Them vs Us.
Let's see some self policing and they might eventually earn some sympathy.
Sheriff's are slightly different from police as they are voted in, rather than appointed by untouchable politicians. But when it comes to the wire, they will likely shoot YOU before going against other LEOs.
I actually am a police officer and many of my co workers are on this site and share some views you do. I do not cover for anyone where I work, I would turn someone in immediately if caught planting evidence or violating any civil right. Either no one does anything at the muni department where I work or they just don't do it around me. Me and my fellow officers would be first to either disobey gun grabbing orders or even quit. You cannot lump everyone together.
This country is founded on INDIVIDUAL freedoms and people are to be judged by their actions as an INDIVIDUAL. If you want to judge a whole community together, you might as well be a communist.
I do not see it as them vs us. I see it as some people make poor decisions and should be punished. I don't take a stealing report and, because I know it was done by a human person, come to your house to talk to you or take you to jail do I? You need to sit yourself down and figure out who has the us vs them mentality because you are projecting so much I think you're really a Democrat troll.
Make no mistake I'm a conservative, constitutionalist, America first, red blooded freedom junkie but if anyone comes at me or my family they will pay the ultimate price.
They lump themselves together in certain instances but not this one.
They dont 100% agree on everything.
There are some who will comply and there are some who will refuse. None of them will make an independent decision to confiscate guns. That decision is made by the people we elect.
If you look at history, law enforcement is a direct reflection of the justice system it enforces. With so many jurisdictions in our country now subverted and controlled Democrats, this is to be expected.
The right understands that the cops dont make these decisions, the people WE put in office do.
If the cops who comply with confiscation orders are guilty of anything, its being cowardly. Fear of losing a job is not a reasonable excuse for betraying your friends, neighbors and family.
The mistake is thinking the 2nd Amendment protects your rights to self defense.
God protects your right to self defense. The 2nd Amendment is just the people acknowledging it enmasse. Government can, and will bypass that if they think they can get away with it. This is why you can't rely on it. You have to rely on all the people agreeing with us that it's necessary.
Cops in general are not bad people but there are many thay will comply with orders even if it goes against their beliefs.
Threats of losing a job when you have a family to support is a strong incentive to do what you're told.
The problem is not the cops. They dont independently make those decisions. Its the people WE elect, that WE put in charge that are to blame. If we dont vote and get politically active, then ultimately we are responsible.
Yep. Even if it means they run out of Americans. Remember Egypt's briefly being ruled by the Muslim Bro'hood? They brought in Jordanians for police, because the Egyptian ones wouldn't turn against their own people but the Jordanians were happy to be paid to shoot at them.
Regarding gun grabbing. I think individual states will grab guns before the federal government does. So, states that crack down on gun owners will be left with no gun owners outside of a few cucked goofs that submit to the government. Gun owners will in turn congregate in states that recognize gun rights. These gun tolerant states will grow and become very successful, the gun grabbing states will turn into even bigger shitholes.
Nope. Every single effort to grab guns government forces need to take losses. Every. Single. Time! Soon they will run out of people willing to try.
Not a single State will be disarmed. We have more gun owners in the US than there are people in the biggest 10 militaries in the world. Making any attempt to do this is lunacy, and it is the only thing granting any of us any freedom. And here you are willing to forfeit EVERYTHING.
Molon Labe!
While I would hope that were true, I don't think it's practical. I live in a state that were we not so entrenched in a flu virus, they'd be looking at some way to make me a felon. I'm on my way out for friendlier pastures as it is, I'm not going to shoot someone because they ban something I'm not willing to give up. I'm just going to take my shit and leave.
Well said... we arent death merchants.
Now if they try to forcibly remove my loved ones from my home if they test positive.... hot lead will fly
Preventing this bs is much better, obviously. Too late for that. That does NOT mean just surrender! Do you really have no idea what the globohomos have planned?
Since 1913 their idea has been to bring the US population to our knees so that we forfeit our Nation and everything it ever stood for in exchange for gibs. We are almost there now.
The option to playing along while they install OWG (One World Government) removing all borders, freedoms, rights including property ownership, and issuing a global currency that makes us all serfs -
the option to that is killing them when they come to try. This does not require a gun. That is the tool of choice for many. Allowing yourself to be taken prisoner implies going peacefully, which would mean they do NOT take casualties. That is a losing proposition! The time is very close to deciding to live on your knees or being willing to die on your feet. I know which option our founding Fathers took. Our looming battle is similar in concept, but bigger in scale. And this time WE have the numerical advantage! The difference is more than a factor of 10. If we present the kind of resolve I'm talking about here, they will quickly run out of people willing to make the effort.
THAT is how we win.
Ok, we're talking about 2 different scenarios. Mostly. Red flag laws are already in place and it's nothing more than a partial attempt to disarm our populace. I would say it's designed to neuter potential civilian leaders, but we could have a many hundreds of comments long post discussing red flag laws. And we probably should!
I'm addressing the current distress: Governors mass murdering us by denying sick people medicine, and prolonging this crisis. The only sensible recourse is to remove said Governors. This, and any possible government reprisal, would necessarily happen before any laws pass.
I will make a separate comment with a link from those in the know who agree with my independent assessment that there would be no such government reprisal. Please do read it.
We need to learn from history: Russia fell and became part of the USSR exactly as you describe. Soldiers went from house to house, farm to farm, taking over people and property without a fight. When I say we need to make them take casualties at every attempt, there is no jail sentence possible.
You see the big picture and therefore realize how truly awful it is; not just for one person, not just for one Nation, but for the whole world. And at a time when so many here are distracted by China, thinking that's our only enemy in this.
Please help me spread word of this "big picture," and how close the globohomos are to putting us all in checkmate. They're using this crisis as cover. Everybody knows "something's up," and it's bigger than or at least different from anything the authorities are telling us.
We need to plan. They've been planning for over 100 years. You and I can discuss this like rational adults, and strengthen weak spots in any plan. You've identified one: we need to be able to assess risk. Not everything every government Official does is so horrible that it's worth doing something to go to jail for. Many things people are irate over now can be beaten in Court, which will have to wait a while.
Initiative is an important strategic concept. If we remove all Governors simultaneously, we have the initiative. If we wait for them to outnumber us at our own homes we're on the back foot, giving them the advantage of initiative. I don't mind fighting for a cause this just, but I prefer fighting to win.
Ok, promised link, furnished by u/christianknight:
https://archive.fo/hnfJQ
In archive form, even! We have the best people ...
Eventually enough people are going to start shooting back that legality will no longer be a question. It will be war if enough people get fed up.
Yup. Fuck this blue lives matter shit. You fucking shit head cops don’t have to enforce this crap. You can #walkaway. Or #learntocode.
You fucking cheaters and beaters have zero support from the left and you’re sure as hell losing any from the right.
So now they're all lumped together? Like the left does with gun owners?
The Sheriff in my county stated he would not enforce stay at home order or any virus related guideline. Deputies I've talked to echoed that sentiment. You want to string them up too, because they have a star on their chest?
They lump THEMSELVES together. They cover for each other every day. Cops will be the first to tell you they view the world as Them vs Us.
Let's see some self policing and they might eventually earn some sympathy.
Sheriff's are slightly different from police as they are voted in, rather than appointed by untouchable politicians. But when it comes to the wire, they will likely shoot YOU before going against other LEOs.
I actually am a police officer and many of my co workers are on this site and share some views you do. I do not cover for anyone where I work, I would turn someone in immediately if caught planting evidence or violating any civil right. Either no one does anything at the muni department where I work or they just don't do it around me. Me and my fellow officers would be first to either disobey gun grabbing orders or even quit. You cannot lump everyone together.
This country is founded on INDIVIDUAL freedoms and people are to be judged by their actions as an INDIVIDUAL. If you want to judge a whole community together, you might as well be a communist.
I do not see it as them vs us. I see it as some people make poor decisions and should be punished. I don't take a stealing report and, because I know it was done by a human person, come to your house to talk to you or take you to jail do I? You need to sit yourself down and figure out who has the us vs them mentality because you are projecting so much I think you're really a Democrat troll.
Make no mistake I'm a conservative, constitutionalist, America first, red blooded freedom junkie but if anyone comes at me or my family they will pay the ultimate price.
They lump themselves together in certain instances but not this one.
They dont 100% agree on everything.
There are some who will comply and there are some who will refuse. None of them will make an independent decision to confiscate guns. That decision is made by the people we elect.
Good response to the shills. Funny how the rabble rousers like to lump them all together.
Spoken like a low IQ shill.
say something right wing is actually a leftist so did no research on the position
If you look at history, law enforcement is a direct reflection of the justice system it enforces. With so many jurisdictions in our country now subverted and controlled Democrats, this is to be expected.
Yes, perfect example.
No. The left tards belive all police are evil.
The right understands that the cops dont make these decisions, the people WE put in office do.
If the cops who comply with confiscation orders are guilty of anything, its being cowardly. Fear of losing a job is not a reasonable excuse for betraying your friends, neighbors and family.
Your point?
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU AT NOW BLACK LIVES MATTER
Americans have the duty to fight back against oppressive American regimes.
The mistake is thinking the 2nd Amendment protects your rights to self defense. God protects your right to self defense. The 2nd Amendment is just the people acknowledging it enmasse. Government can, and will bypass that if they think they can get away with it. This is why you can't rely on it. You have to rely on all the people agreeing with us that it's necessary.
Cops in general are not bad people but there are many thay will comply with orders even if it goes against their beliefs.
Threats of losing a job when you have a family to support is a strong incentive to do what you're told.
The problem is not the cops. They dont independently make those decisions. Its the people WE elect, that WE put in charge that are to blame. If we dont vote and get politically active, then ultimately we are responsible.
Pulling some dude off a train with 10 cops is a damn sight different than 10 cops trying to confiscate guns from 1000 armed Patriots.
The urban population centers are fucked. They made their bed, now they get to sleep in it. The rest of us aren’t putting up with this nonsense.
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1248692531035926528
The Emperor protects. But having a loaded Bolter never hurt, either.