Remember they tried several times to get a FISA but failed. Then October 21st 2016 SDNY called and asked about Wiener's laptop. Same day, they submit the FISA with the dossier. Same day. Oddly, Kathleen Kavelec had interviewed Steele the week prior and made notes that "It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami." and that he had 2 russian sources. Yet they still submitted and got the FISA by including the dossier.
The following week, Loretta Lynch put pressure on NYPD to drop Weiner or she would reopen Eric Garner. Comey lied about checking all 625,000 emails, only checking about 3000. Judicial watch lawsuits have revealed more classified info on server.
Don't forget that before any of this happened, the Obama Administration had used confidential human sources to contact Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, the former being contacted and set up by Stephen Halper, and the latter was set up by a combination of an Unknown blonde CIA agent and the Australian Ambassador. This was going back before May of 2016.
“Everyone seems to be overlooking the obvious… Why were these footnotes classified four months ago when the report came out? Who classified them? There are no protected “sources or methods”; and the only reason for the redactions was to protect the corrupt interests of the DOJ.
With that said, I find no reason to celebrate the un-redaction of redacted information that should never have been classified in the first place. Factually, the information revealed by the footnote declassification was already well known. Worse still, the interpretation of the information within the footnotes is purposeful ‘misinformation’.
Additionally, if these declassified footnotes are an example of a new DOJ shift to allow sunlight, some newly discovered interests in truthfulness, then why are the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages still redacted? Why is the Susan Rice memo on inauguration day still redacted? And, more importantly, why is the DOJ still hiding the ‘scope memos’ that authorized Mueller’s investigation?
...According to these interpretations, which are fully supported by the DOJ and FBI, the former administration officials were duped, tricked, into believing Russian disinformation that was seeded into the Chris Steele dossier.
That interpretation is the official U.S. Government position.
That interpretation is also pure nonsense... it is an intentionally wrong interpretation.
That interpretation comes from interests of the U.S. government, all sides; and it is intended to help protect and insulate the institutions of U.S. government.
The truth is the CIA and FBI worked to plant disinformation in the Steele dossier. The CIA/FBI did not get duped by Russian Disinformation. The CIA/FBI knowingly and willfully solicited Russian disinformation to be channeled to Chris Steele.
The current DOJ, current FBI, and current political class (both parties), do not want to reveal that U.S. intelligence agencies worked with Russian actors to seed disinformation into the Steele Dossier that could then be laundered and returned to the U.S. intelligence apparatus for exploitation – via political surveillance – using FISA.
♦ FACTS – In addition to working in collaboration with Fusion-GPS and Nellie Ohr (CIA), Christopher Steele was simultaneously employed by Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska. Our current DOJ and FBI are well aware of this; so too is congress.
Oleg had hired Christopher Steele at the same time Steele was working with Nellie Ohr and Fusion GPS to write the Trump dossier.
n September of 2016 Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, and two FBI agents approached Deripaska in New York – again asking for his help. This time the FBI request was for Deripaska to provide dirt on Paul Manafort and the Trump campaign.
Later the New York Times tried to spin that request, by saying the FBI was trying to “flip” Deripaska to be a source for them...
So no, the FBI didn’t “ignore likely Russian disinformation.” The entire CIA/FBI network was based around CREATING Russian disinformation [or at least the impression therein].
The reality is that Christopher Steele was working for Oleg Deripaska, and Deripaska provided material, ridiculous material like hookers, pee-tapes etc, that Steele -while working in collaboration with Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie Ohr (CIA)- put into his silly dossier and gave to the FBI….. who then used that nonsense to gain a surveillance warrant against the Trump campaign. That’s Oleg’s REAL STORY.
Christopher Steele, working for Deripaska and Fusion-GPS, was simply the tool to get the CIA/FBI constructed intelligence products into useful position/channels. It was an intelligence laundry operation…. all feeding into Chris Steele and then coming out in his dossier. There was no “ignoring” it, because the CIA/FBI was manufacturing it.
The FBI used the dossier as evidence for the FISA warrant against the campaign. Some of the information used in the dossier was from U.S. intelligence to Chris Steele. The FBI knew all along the Russia intelligence part was bullshit; that is the reason the FBI ignored any warnings about the validity or provenance of the dossier.
The FBI knew the dossier was junk, they were not duped. That’s why the FBI “ignored” warnings…. They were only ignoring what they already knew.“
The tldr on this one is that the FBI/CIA relied on bullshit not because they're stupid or incompetent, but because they needed a reason to spy on the Trump campaign.
The stupid comes in to play when they thought they could leak manufactured "intelligence" to the MSM to sink the Trump presidency only to discover Americans aren't retarded.
Exactly, they are fucking liars.. still trying to blame and provoke war with Russia. It's like they said "I have an idea how we can STILL get that war with Russia that we want... We will say Russia gave us bad intel accusing our POTUS of working for them"
It's like WHat??? So Russia was trying to goad us into nuclear war? I don't think so. The last thing Russia would ever want to do is to convince America that they had control of our government because it would invite war 100% of the time.
We already know it was Hillary Clinton amd Barack Obama behind it all. Clinton paid for the fake dossier that got everything rolling. I suppose Russia tricked her into paying for a fake piss dossier?
I don't think the investigators were warmongers. I think they simply don't care about the side effects of their operations and lies and coverups and more lies.
Hurt relations with Russia? Meh. Innocent people in prison? Meh. Innocent people bankrupted? Meh. There is literally no price they these people are not prepared for you and me to pay for their vice.
The warmongers are elsewhere, and I think they tried their best to latch on, but they weren't the source.
I've been saying that and feeling that way for years.
If "muh rank and file" were truly good and honorable people we'd be swimming in leaks and whistleblower reports calling out the high level corruption. Since we're not, one can only conclude that the rank and file are just fine with the way these agencies are being run.
The rank and file can either stand up and be counted, or they can hang with the corrupt leadership. I'd prefer the former but it would seem they've made their choice
The "rank and file" came and harassed me at my house after making mean comments on Twitter towards a former FBI agent turned fake news reporter. They are just as bad as the people at the top
The problem with declassification is that it's irrelevant to the majority of the public by the time it's declassified.
The DOD should be held accountable for the disgusting Operation Northwoods, but it wasn't declassified for 35 years, so there's no one to hold accountable. In 2036, we will "find out" the globalist elite in conjunction with the US government was responsible for 9/11, and no one will care.
That's true, but a very important point here is; why was a footnote in the DOJ IG report, saying that the main evidence to get a FISA on Carter Page was based on Russia disinformation, a piece of information that needed to be classified in the first place?
I don't see how this information has anything to do with national security, but it was redacted because it exposes the FBI for either incompetence or malicious behavior, being the latter the more likely option. Besides that, they avoid as much as possible disclosing information that exonerates Trump and the people who were unjustly involved in the Russia hoax.
I actually was surprised it took them this long to come up with this excuse and still think it might be the main underlying reason why no one gets busted. "National security"
Does anybody really believe the FBI 'rank and file' bullshit. These fuckers allowed Obama to spy on our President. Traitors from the top down. Maybe not all of them but certainy most.
This just in! Russia leaks that it was Russian disinformation that lead to fake Russian collusion!
C'mon maan! Look fat it's in our best interest that Russians collude , and Ukraine gives money to my boy and if, lets go do some push ups! I outta slap you right now!
I can talk faster than you. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled, you know the thing. It's in our best interest. (LONG DEEP SNIFF)
Everything is a mirage and fake at this point. We can't trust anyone but our main man. That GEOTUS who gave up his GOLDEN YEARS for our future. The future of our GREAT NATION!
Carter Page worked for the fbi back in 2012. He spied on Russians and his work led to multiple arrests. The fact that they pretended to think carter page was a Russian asset because of this previous connection to Russian spies is absolutely ridiculous.
As a history autist, wargamer, neckbeard, and general long term pede lurker and short time poster I've considered making a long arse post explaining how dumb "Muh Russia Collusion" was as a story.... by concept alone.
Mostly not discussing all the many bits of new evidence and how it's been shot apart, but how this sort of hypothetical fifth dimensional chess (though typical of His Orangeness) has constantly eluded the grip of the Kremlin. Who generally can't rig an election unless there are troops literally standing in the country. (And who sometimes couldn't even do THAT properly, as a bunch of upsets like the Hungarian Election of 1946 showed; but it didn't matter because armed thugs allowed them to throw the election). They couldn't even force Finland- a nation battered by three invasions in less than thirty years, forced to accept humiliating terms, and right on the border of Leningrad itself- into being a Commie Regime.
Couple that with Putin's own lunacy, and the idea that he'd be either able or willing to groom Trump to assume control of a country that is vastly more powerful than Russia and keep him as a puppet is...just too retarded.
People should HANG for this. And then get dissected because their estates should be left without enough to afford a coffin or cremation.
Remember the 2012 presidential debate where BO scoffed at Mitt Romney for saying Russia posed the biggest geopolitical threat to the US (Mitt, the 1980s called...they want their foreign policy back)? That's what is so laughable about the Russian collusion hoax. With the help of the corrupt media, Russia suddenly morphed back into the greatest geopolitical threat to the US.
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Kremlin, and I do think it's something like number 3 or 4 on the list as one of the BIGGER Geopolitical threats (after the ChiComs and Iran).
But BIGGEST?
It hasn't been the biggest since the Soviet Union imploded.
And even at the VERY TIPPY TOPPY HEIGHTS of the great Leninist nightmare, it could never have DREAMED of singlehandedly being Kingmaker in a Federal US Election.
And they want to tell me that the rump state of Russia could do all that? It can barely hold its ground against a buttload of Ukrainian militiamen.
Agreed. Russia has nukes, but they are not suicidal. Their economy is the size of Italy's now. All of their fuckery involves economic motivation, like business schemes. Most Russians are trying to make a buck.
I'm not sure they're not suicidal, but it's a different kind of suicide. Mark Steyn did a pretty good job of describing them, and when I went over there I kind of felt like it. Aborting most children. Not breeding.
It's the more classical kind of suicide. Not Murder-Suicide for the Twelfth Imam like the Ayatollah wants, but slowly slitting the wrists and drifting away in the warm bath while trying to buy the finest wine to drink down as it happens.
They're not a good actor IMHO, not by any stretch of the imagination. And they're still a threat. But there's a quantitative and qualitative difference between them and-say- Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, or the Peoples' Republic of Asshoe.
nothing to do with the Russians, it's all FBI and now using the Russians to deflect from their selves. change my mind
Remember they tried several times to get a FISA but failed. Then October 21st 2016 SDNY called and asked about Wiener's laptop. Same day, they submit the FISA with the dossier. Same day. Oddly, Kathleen Kavelec had interviewed Steele the week prior and made notes that "It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami." and that he had 2 russian sources. Yet they still submitted and got the FISA by including the dossier.
The following week, Loretta Lynch put pressure on NYPD to drop Weiner or she would reopen Eric Garner. Comey lied about checking all 625,000 emails, only checking about 3000. Judicial watch lawsuits have revealed more classified info on server.
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/
It's all a bunch of coincidences.
Informed pede has entered chat.
You should listen to the Dan Bongino podcast. He has been talking about this for 3 yrs.
Or just buy his book. He spells it out
His 3rd one is coming out soon.
Don't forget that before any of this happened, the Obama Administration had used confidential human sources to contact Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, the former being contacted and set up by Stephen Halper, and the latter was set up by a combination of an Unknown blonde CIA agent and the Australian Ambassador. This was going back before May of 2016.
“Everyone seems to be overlooking the obvious… Why were these footnotes classified four months ago when the report came out? Who classified them? There are no protected “sources or methods”; and the only reason for the redactions was to protect the corrupt interests of the DOJ.
With that said, I find no reason to celebrate the un-redaction of redacted information that should never have been classified in the first place. Factually, the information revealed by the footnote declassification was already well known. Worse still, the interpretation of the information within the footnotes is purposeful ‘misinformation’.
Additionally, if these declassified footnotes are an example of a new DOJ shift to allow sunlight, some newly discovered interests in truthfulness, then why are the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages still redacted? Why is the Susan Rice memo on inauguration day still redacted? And, more importantly, why is the DOJ still hiding the ‘scope memos’ that authorized Mueller’s investigation?
...According to these interpretations, which are fully supported by the DOJ and FBI, the former administration officials were duped, tricked, into believing Russian disinformation that was seeded into the Chris Steele dossier.
That interpretation is the official U.S. Government position.
That interpretation is also pure nonsense... it is an intentionally wrong interpretation.
That interpretation comes from interests of the U.S. government, all sides; and it is intended to help protect and insulate the institutions of U.S. government.
The truth is the CIA and FBI worked to plant disinformation in the Steele dossier. The CIA/FBI did not get duped by Russian Disinformation. The CIA/FBI knowingly and willfully solicited Russian disinformation to be channeled to Chris Steele.
The current DOJ, current FBI, and current political class (both parties), do not want to reveal that U.S. intelligence agencies worked with Russian actors to seed disinformation into the Steele Dossier that could then be laundered and returned to the U.S. intelligence apparatus for exploitation – via political surveillance – using FISA.
♦ FACTS – In addition to working in collaboration with Fusion-GPS and Nellie Ohr (CIA), Christopher Steele was simultaneously employed by Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska. Our current DOJ and FBI are well aware of this; so too is congress.
Oleg had hired Christopher Steele at the same time Steele was working with Nellie Ohr and Fusion GPS to write the Trump dossier.
n September of 2016 Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, and two FBI agents approached Deripaska in New York – again asking for his help. This time the FBI request was for Deripaska to provide dirt on Paul Manafort and the Trump campaign.
Later the New York Times tried to spin that request, by saying the FBI was trying to “flip” Deripaska to be a source for them...
So no, the FBI didn’t “ignore likely Russian disinformation.” The entire CIA/FBI network was based around CREATING Russian disinformation [or at least the impression therein].
The reality is that Christopher Steele was working for Oleg Deripaska, and Deripaska provided material, ridiculous material like hookers, pee-tapes etc, that Steele -while working in collaboration with Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie Ohr (CIA)- put into his silly dossier and gave to the FBI….. who then used that nonsense to gain a surveillance warrant against the Trump campaign. That’s Oleg’s REAL STORY.
Christopher Steele, working for Deripaska and Fusion-GPS, was simply the tool to get the CIA/FBI constructed intelligence products into useful position/channels. It was an intelligence laundry operation…. all feeding into Chris Steele and then coming out in his dossier. There was no “ignoring” it, because the CIA/FBI was manufacturing it.
The FBI used the dossier as evidence for the FISA warrant against the campaign. Some of the information used in the dossier was from U.S. intelligence to Chris Steele. The FBI knew all along the Russia intelligence part was bullshit; that is the reason the FBI ignored any warnings about the validity or provenance of the dossier.
The FBI knew the dossier was junk, they were not duped. That’s why the FBI “ignored” warnings…. They were only ignoring what they already knew.“
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/10/footnote-declassification-highlights-ongoing-doj-cover-up-operations/
The tldr on this one is that the FBI/CIA relied on bullshit not because they're stupid or incompetent, but because they needed a reason to spy on the Trump campaign.
The stupid comes in to play when they thought they could leak manufactured "intelligence" to the MSM to sink the Trump presidency only to discover Americans aren't retarded.
Trump actually realized this from the beginning and used it to play them, but yeah.
I don't think we have the same advantage going into this one, but we'll see. I can already see the groundwork for various 'surprises' being laid.
Death penalty.
Who's FBI?
Captain Kenya
Christopher Steele
Exactly, they are fucking liars.. still trying to blame and provoke war with Russia. It's like they said "I have an idea how we can STILL get that war with Russia that we want... We will say Russia gave us bad intel accusing our POTUS of working for them"
It's like WHat??? So Russia was trying to goad us into nuclear war? I don't think so. The last thing Russia would ever want to do is to convince America that they had control of our government because it would invite war 100% of the time.
We already know it was Hillary Clinton amd Barack Obama behind it all. Clinton paid for the fake dossier that got everything rolling. I suppose Russia tricked her into paying for a fake piss dossier?
I don't think the investigators were warmongers. I think they simply don't care about the side effects of their operations and lies and coverups and more lies.
Hurt relations with Russia? Meh. Innocent people in prison? Meh. Innocent people bankrupted? Meh. There is literally no price they these people are not prepared for you and me to pay for their vice.
The warmongers are elsewhere, and I think they tried their best to latch on, but they weren't the source.
There were no 'investigators' on this 'case' there were only participants in an attempted coup via trying to frame the President for high treason.
I can't
Brennan planted the info to get it into the report
This. This guys big arrogant head needs to roll. Then kicked around like a Hacky Sack. (Memba?)
Brennan's been quite lately, I wonder if he has been talking to DOJ investigators.
Guess it's time for Comey to take an awkward photo of himself in a forest with some weird quote and post it to social media.
I always wondered who those coded messages are for
I assume it's for McCabe, Page, Strzok and other co-conspirators.
Christopher WRAY is a Piece of Shit FBI Director,
Change my Mind
I cannot and will not! There are NO good people in the FBI.
If there were, we wouldn't come to this bullshit.
I've been saying that and feeling that way for years.
If "muh rank and file" were truly good and honorable people we'd be swimming in leaks and whistleblower reports calling out the high level corruption. Since we're not, one can only conclude that the rank and file are just fine with the way these agencies are being run.
The rank and file can either stand up and be counted, or they can hang with the corrupt leadership. I'd prefer the former but it would seem they've made their choice
The "rank and file" came and harassed me at my house after making mean comments on Twitter towards a former FBI agent turned fake news reporter. They are just as bad as the people at the top
BUT MUH TRUST SESSIONS TRUST WRAY™.
Wray is a sleeper. I mean he literally sleeps on the job.
Indict those responsible!
Almost seems like today was a low key big day.
What about the information from Fusion GPS that slid in there?
Outside of their purview of course.
Fusion GPS worked as an unregistered agent of Russia.
The problem with declassification is that it's irrelevant to the majority of the public by the time it's declassified.
The DOD should be held accountable for the disgusting Operation Northwoods, but it wasn't declassified for 35 years, so there's no one to hold accountable. In 2036, we will "find out" the globalist elite in conjunction with the US government was responsible for 9/11, and no one will care.
That's true, but a very important point here is; why was a footnote in the DOJ IG report, saying that the main evidence to get a FISA on Carter Page was based on Russia disinformation, a piece of information that needed to be classified in the first place?
I don't see how this information has anything to do with national security, but it was redacted because it exposes the FBI for either incompetence or malicious behavior, being the latter the more likely option. Besides that, they avoid as much as possible disclosing information that exonerates Trump and the people who were unjustly involved in the Russia hoax.
#ObamaGoesToPrison
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I actually was surprised it took them this long to come up with this excuse and still think it might be the main underlying reason why no one gets busted. "National security"
If many do not swing from the Gallows it will happen again and again^And Again And Again
jail for all those involved and trying to cover it up. Looking at you Wray
Treason = Firing squad
I’m looking at folks like Richard Burr and Paul Ryan....
WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE MSM!!!!
Oh yep, I know why 🤡🌍
Not up voting more Russian FAGGOT fanfic.
Zerohedge is HORRIBLE for mobile devices.
Never even got to the actual article because of pop up videos. Really wish more articles had their links archived before being shared.
Use Brave browser on mobile FTW.
Does anybody really believe the FBI 'rank and file' bullshit. These fuckers allowed Obama to spy on our President. Traitors from the top down. Maybe not all of them but certainy most.
I don't. They have had years to do the right thing and turn on their corrupt leadership. They must be totally fine with how things are
so whos getting indicted?
The FBI can "admit" to anything it damn well pleases. Because they know that no one will ever have to answer for it.
Scatter it! Fuck these unamerican shitbags.
Replace Russia with china. Then remember the left always projects, 100% of the time.
I think British intelligence said that the dossier didn’t sound credible from the start.
Color me surprised!
This just in! Russia leaks that it was Russian disinformation that lead to fake Russian collusion! C'mon maan! Look fat it's in our best interest that Russians collude , and Ukraine gives money to my boy and if, lets go do some push ups! I outta slap you right now! I can talk faster than you. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled, you know the thing. It's in our best interest. (LONG DEEP SNIFF)
Everything is a mirage and fake at this point. We can't trust anyone but our main man. That GEOTUS who gave up his GOLDEN YEARS for our future. The future of our GREAT NATION!
It was planted by Brennan. LOL
So the FBI is now blaming the russians for spying on Trump and for trying to take him out as president ....
/sigh
It's a defection to cover for China.
No doubt McCain and Graham.I think Trump has a deal out worked with Graham and Grassley they will not swing from the gallows if they play ball now.
I HOPE McCain is burning in 🔥HELL🔥 with Hitler.
Carter Page worked for the fbi back in 2012. He spied on Russians and his work led to multiple arrests. The fact that they pretended to think carter page was a Russian asset because of this previous connection to Russian spies is absolutely ridiculous.
oh please. really?
DJ Khaled: Congratulations, you played yourself.
banana republic
That's a weird way of saying "came directly from Hillary Clinton".
The👏FBI👏colluded👏with👏Russia.
This whole thread looks like a recap of what Dan Bongino has been saying for 3 years now.
Barr needs to get a result. There are a lot of dirty players in this and some of them need to go to jail.
As a history autist, wargamer, neckbeard, and general long term pede lurker and short time poster I've considered making a long arse post explaining how dumb "Muh Russia Collusion" was as a story.... by concept alone.
Mostly not discussing all the many bits of new evidence and how it's been shot apart, but how this sort of hypothetical fifth dimensional chess (though typical of His Orangeness) has constantly eluded the grip of the Kremlin. Who generally can't rig an election unless there are troops literally standing in the country. (And who sometimes couldn't even do THAT properly, as a bunch of upsets like the Hungarian Election of 1946 showed; but it didn't matter because armed thugs allowed them to throw the election). They couldn't even force Finland- a nation battered by three invasions in less than thirty years, forced to accept humiliating terms, and right on the border of Leningrad itself- into being a Commie Regime.
Couple that with Putin's own lunacy, and the idea that he'd be either able or willing to groom Trump to assume control of a country that is vastly more powerful than Russia and keep him as a puppet is...just too retarded.
People should HANG for this. And then get dissected because their estates should be left without enough to afford a coffin or cremation.
Remember the 2012 presidential debate where BO scoffed at Mitt Romney for saying Russia posed the biggest geopolitical threat to the US (Mitt, the 1980s called...they want their foreign policy back)? That's what is so laughable about the Russian collusion hoax. With the help of the corrupt media, Russia suddenly morphed back into the greatest geopolitical threat to the US.
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Kremlin, and I do think it's something like number 3 or 4 on the list as one of the BIGGER Geopolitical threats (after the ChiComs and Iran).
But BIGGEST?
It hasn't been the biggest since the Soviet Union imploded.
And even at the VERY TIPPY TOPPY HEIGHTS of the great Leninist nightmare, it could never have DREAMED of singlehandedly being Kingmaker in a Federal US Election.
And they want to tell me that the rump state of Russia could do all that? It can barely hold its ground against a buttload of Ukrainian militiamen.
Agreed. Russia has nukes, but they are not suicidal. Their economy is the size of Italy's now. All of their fuckery involves economic motivation, like business schemes. Most Russians are trying to make a buck.
I'm not sure they're not suicidal, but it's a different kind of suicide. Mark Steyn did a pretty good job of describing them, and when I went over there I kind of felt like it. Aborting most children. Not breeding.
It's the more classical kind of suicide. Not Murder-Suicide for the Twelfth Imam like the Ayatollah wants, but slowly slitting the wrists and drifting away in the warm bath while trying to buy the finest wine to drink down as it happens.
They're not a good actor IMHO, not by any stretch of the imagination. And they're still a threat. But there's a quantitative and qualitative difference between them and-say- Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, or the Peoples' Republic of Asshoe.