Now that we’ve all seen first hand how wrong muh science models are.
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The only model I trust is the one married to President Trump.
Now that’s settled science
Been studying that model for 3 years, can concur, is accurate.
Climate models are far less accurate as amazing as that is.
You know, what truly amazes me. The weather folks cannot accurately predict the weather for today; yet we are supposed to believe that they can twelve years in advance. Yeah, pull this leg, it plays Jingle Bells.
It's because they vastly oversimplify the models and then fudge their data to get the prediction they want. They ignore literally 95% of climate forcing mechanisms we know of. They don't even understand ocean circulation/modulation and they act like they can make a reasonable model of an insanely complex system by calculating the addition of 2 parts per 10,000 of plant food to the atmosphere. Mainstream climate science is one of the most anti-science fields imaginable. Literally equivalent to thinking the Earth is the center of the universe.
I tell people this and I think I am a nutjob, then I tell them one of the so called "scientists" at NOAA even said they fuck with the numbers. While on "scientists" that community is so fucking ass backwards, you make a theory or prove some shit wrong that they have been spoon feeding us for 100years and its wrong think you get chastised and made fun of blackballed.
Yip, I've been sniggered at and called a nutjob as well. I make a point to dumb it down for them as sarcastically as possible.
"THE PLANET IS FUCKIN DYING AND IT NEEDS... .... ... our taxes 🤔"
Sometime I see the gears turning, other times they just stare back blankly
It's tough to take it seriously when they won't advocate for nuclear. When the trade is "some measure of safety" for "saving the fucking planet" you'd think that would be a no-brainer. We have the technology, have proven that it works, and have proven that it can be done safely when engineering service lifetimes are respected. We've got enough fuel to run the world for tens of decades even using old, inefficient forms of fission that only extract a small amount of the energy potential. And, if "peak oil" and "maximum COVID caseload" is anything to go by, that projection is probably way off too.
When they advocate for some half-assed mostly unworkable solution that relies on coal for baseload power, tons of shit built in China, and energy storage that doesn't exist, there is an ulterior motive.
Paris Climate Accord was a massive transfer of wealth from America to a bunch of shitholes.
The Climate Change Industry is big business. Science runs on money and if you don't make outlandish claims you aren't going to get your beak wet. Then the next year wash, rinse and repeat before you know it even the "models" that started somewhat fact based are as insane as the ones for the Wuhan Whoopsie.
I've not run the numbers but in Texas if you removed flu, pneumonia, heart disease and COPD I'm betting we are at net zero extra deaths from the "Pandemic". We are showing 254 deaths at this moment, based on 2018 we lose 303 people to road accidents per month.
(Spez can't spell road)
It's like a road accident but the poster misspelled it.
Not to mention the fact water vapor has roughly 60x the effect of CO2. There are also many places on the planet where all incoming radiation is already absorbed so adding more CO2 would have no effect whatsoever other than making photosynthetic life thrive. Here's something I don't see talked about much: We know the Earth has an electrical circuit with multiple layers including the ionosphere, cloud layers, the ground, the low velocity zone, the mantle, etc. We know for a fact that heavy space weather induces ground currents. My question is, given the entire global electric circuit, how much heating is caused by this current moving through our resistive atmosphere? All "climate science" says right now is "there is none" which is an utterly insane response. Could spent all day talking about their shitty junk science and still wouldn't scratch the surface.
You're referencing complicated stuff like ocean circulation when it's even dumber than that. They don't even factor simple shit like cloud coverage on a given day into their data samples.
Princeton has been shouting that from the rooftops for over a decade. Frankly, I could spend the next 5 hours talking about all the shit they ignore and I still wouldn't have scratched the surface.
Climate change and medical tyranny represent the bastardization of science, and unfortunately are probably the wave of the future if the left stays in charge of academic life.
Exactly this. Fake science is today's religion, and we heretics must be crushed and ostracised and punished like the filthy unwashed animals we are.
And it gets worse. Because you have to understand, temperature recording has an even shorter span. Fahrenheit, Celsius, and Kelvin were all Dead White European Men (TM) who lived inside of 400 years ago.
But wait, it gets worse. Because Fahrenheit the system was invented in the 1720’s. Celsius the system was invented sometime in the 1740’s (ignoring how it wasn’t really only Celciusms system but kitbashed Separates by a bunch of people). And Kelvin?
First conceptualized in 1848, and really created in the 1956’s.
So we really have NO temperature records made using modern units that are older than 300 years ago. Now realize the lag that happened as it took a while for other people to adopt these systems in Europe, for them to go out into the world and be used there, etc etc.
And you will start to have three meagerest idea of how shallow our temperature record is.
not to mention they're always wrong. Remember when California was in a permanent drought? Yea they just had record rainfall not too long ago
Disaster is always two weeks away. Give or take twelve years if it's a climate model.
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
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Chinese flu will kill millions!
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"Science deniers"
Best part of when they call you that is when you get to point out predictive models aren't science at all. Science requires actual data, and those models are just guesses of what the data might be in the future.
Models are used to scare the population into letting them install police states.
Change my mind.
It's been proven many times now that climate data is being altered to fit the activist narrative. If you can get your hands on unaltered data it actually shows that we are on a slight cooling trend. Also there was a couple groups of climate activist that had to be rescued from their ship when it got trapped in record level sea ice this year hahaha.
They're worse.
Or 2016 election models... it's time to face facts: A whole bunch of people in power are left-wing activists.
I'll never forget how every talking head said things with absolute certainty that ended up being totally wrong. These people still have jobs! They keep referencing polls. I haven't seen anyone in the MSM reflect on how horribly wrong they got it, or talk about what (if anything) has changed to make those polls any better. The world got caught up in Russiagate, Ukraine, and impeachment, and completely forget how inept and deceitful the MSM still is.
Like the NYT: "Ok, we were wrong, we were out of touch, we need to do better, let's move on."
As far as I can tell it's just been that one editorial and if anything they've gotten crazier and more detached from America.
Wait. Weren’t the polar ice caps supposed to melt in 2000?
Democrats are idiots, don't bother trying to change my mind.
Follow the money.
I would say even less accurate!
Partly Cloudy vs Partly Sunny
All models are wrong, but some are useful.
Wheres that list of every doomsday environmental prediction since the 1800s.
Models are only meant to sell you an idea. Rarely are they practical.
I think Michael Behe's "The Edge of Evolution" was excellent.
Yep. Evolution is in strict contrast to the second law of thermodynamics. Not many elite mathematician or physics people believe in it. The marxist schools have done their job well.
I've recently made the switch. Never thought I would. Evolution is a pretty dumb theory, honestly.
And why would we put dead scientists on a pedestal and accept their bullshit while we can look around and see the bullshit current "scientists" push?
I used to have a hobby of reading classic literature. Now I can't get too far into a lot of it without seeing glaringly obvious leftist narratives. We look at the media today and it doesn't occur to us that this isn't new. Same with stuff like evolution.
Yeah, the world started from a little dot smaller than a period. Cool story bro. The science is settled.
EDIT I'm gonna find a Christian who debates evolution for you. I don't think he is 100% accurate about every detail, but he's entertaining and he makes you think. I've watched 3 or 4 of his debates and I think this was a good one. Honestly I think they're all pretty similar. Again not endorsing every sentence he says, but some of his big ideas about the problems with evolution were refreshing.
https://youtu.be/OghwjQDUiCM
Also, if you ever spend some time looking into scientists who found religion, it's pretty crazy. People a lot smarter than you and me. I've been "coming out" as a Christian to a small # of people and it's strange the reaction you get. I had someone tell me this list (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology) was a lie because "no real scientist would believe in God".
If you're interested I'll try to find one guy, he's an Indian physicist who does a lot of debates. That is a guy I would endorse about everything he says.
This is a good watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noj4phMT9OE
The same way hate crime anecdotes are as honest as coronavirus anecdotes.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.24.20042291v1.full.pdf
This is a lot more reliable of a model. It predicts it as a nothingburger which surprise is exactly what it's turning out to be.
A quarter of a million people die from medical mistakes every year. Maybe we should stay away from hospitals?
Unironically just the flu
But don't forget to beg the government to take away your rights.
What do you mean, ulterior motive? Nah, don't be a conspiritard!!
I've been saying this for a couple weeks. Lo and behold, most countries stripped citizens of their rights overnight. Iceland now has a "voluntary" app that basically tracks your location to "inform you if you're going to be exposed."
I went to my local subreddit yesterday to find info about the tornados during the height of them. Zero mention of tornados. But the top post was this "y cant ppl social distance omg" shit. No joke, multiple people were encouraging others to call the police on their neighbors if they had get togethers in their own house/yard.
The useful idiots who would be used to implement whatever authoritarian hellhole dystopia desired by TPTB have been exposed.
Climate change is a chinese operative to destabilize western industry through environmental sanctions placed by the United nations who are in chinas pocket
Even less accurate I'm sure.
Oh they are far less accurate...pretty sure some of them said we would all be dead by now.
Absolutely. The only book one should follow is the bible
Absofuckinglutely.
Haha! They're way less accurate. At least a few people died of corona... There isn't that much evidence for climate change.
Well, I believe climate models are way less accurate than Chineese virus ones. Climate models are based on proxy data it's like measuring virus incidence by counting used masks on a 20k years old garbage dump site and then converting the numbers to normalized numbers and comparing with today's un-testing rates assuming certain probability distributions hold and excluding all garbage sites that do not produce hockey stick or adjusting normalization until it gets normal like every libtard ... Nah the virus stats is just assume the worst times 2 and add 10% that's must be more accurate
they are not nearly as accurate, they are worse.
models are good at predicting the past.
Liberals just create a bunch of bogus 'studies' and 'models' so they can use them as talking points and you can't argue against them in the moment. Then by the time it's proven wrong after the fact nobody pays attention.
Hey, is that Stephen "Asshole" Crowder?
A pink haierd lesbian producer wants to know.
Made by the same consensus of scientists (political scientists)
Climate models wish they were that accurate.
I disagree; the are even more inaccurate
Please keep pushing this every time some Leftist turd starts blathering about ManBearPig.
I think climate change is real, but not the way the retards project it to be. Go on reddit and you'll see people fearing for their lives that in 10 years that the middle of Africa is going to be oceans and shit lol. Having leo Dicaprio and his harem of 18 year old models flying around the world in a private jet telling us that climate change is a super serious issue. I'm sure in 5000 years we'll see the effect but not in 50
4D Chess
Shutting down this country because of the kung flu is what they've been trying to do with their climate crap for decades.
Climate change doesn’t bother me. Who does clean energy hurt? Coal miners and Shell Oil, BP, etc...Fuck them. Real capitalism embraces cheaper and more reliable energy sources and doesn’t prop up the oil and coal industry. That’s just fucking socialism
Didn’t ManBearPig say Wall Street would be 6 feet underwater by now?
I’m focusing on cost. If solar or wind is cheaper, why not use them?
If they're cheaper no one would need to be forced to use them. (Milton Friedman was all over this like white on rice back in the day, also Terry Anderson.)
Price is coming down now. Oil and gas have been bolstered. Why the fuck protect oil and gas. May the best energy win
They are not ready and dont work on cloudy days or nonwindy days or TOO windy days. They will ALWAYS be a fringe energy source. Nuclear is the only PROVEN source of clean energy.
I like nuclear! All for it!
They are more expensive than fossil fuels by a long shot when all of the extra costs of dealing with intermittancy are thrown in. Not even close. It cost more to put a KWh of electricity into and back out of a Tesla battery than it costs to generate a KWh with natural gas.
Because they're not cheaper
Hmm...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2018/12/03/plunging-prices-mean-building-new-renewable-energy-is-cheaper-than-running-existing-coal/
https://blogs-images.forbes.com/energyinnovation/files/2018/11/LCOE-comparison-between-clean-and-conventional-energy-sources-Lazard-1200x588.jpg
It's like neither you nor the author even read the article. They're only cheaper when subsidized, and even then only wind (which you still have to backup with another source when the wind don't blow)
Lol
They never talk about the carbon footprint of maintaining those systems.