They've told mild cases to stay at home. I would suspect even some bad cases never see a hospital and just ride it out. As they would have no clue what is bad and what isn't. Since no one will ever see them to tell them.
The way hospitals are dealing with this from what we've been hearing about in the last month just doesn't add up.
Exactly this, it’s happening in other countries too, you could have the China flu and have no symptom and get hit by a car and they would say the cause of death was China flu,
Yes it is, they will test during autopsy and if CV is found they are taking the extra money and calling it death by CV. The whole system is rigged to encourage over reporting the number of CV deaths. Trump should stop that subsidy immediately so we can get honest numbers and end this hysteria.
Where I work our timecard is coded "covid" if anyone is swabbed they are in isolation until results come in. We has been consistently over staffed. So far only 2 patients have come back positive.
The Japanese do have a different reaction to being sick than we do, by having a higher social cohesion and homogeneity.
The Japanese wear masks as a matter of fact if they're 'feeling bad' to prevent it from spreading to their family/friends/coworkers, while we in America just pop a 'feel better pill' and go on with our lives to spread whatever we might have.
The Japanese are cleanfreaks and use hand sanitizers and wash hands quite a bit, while we in America statistically don't.
They also have bad blood with China, worse than we have, so they didn't fall for the 'Chinese-virus is racist' bullshit and jumped on isolating it like a starving dog on a well cooked steak.
I don't think its just that though I'm sure its a factor. Reports of over representation of covid19 by several sources in the states, already. I think the deaths in the US are wildly off.
Definitely, the system was rigged to bleed more money from taxpayers and to blow up the number of deaths reported as coronavirus for political optics. "Muh USA has more CV deaths than any other country!" "Impeach!"
Trump really needs to have all of these hospitals audited to get America the truth.
Numerous scientific journals have already cited anti-malarial drugs such as hydroxychloroquine are less effective (that is, more prone to resistance) in communities where they have been over-used.
Not trying to counter-point you in a rude way, it's just that your argument, according to science, should be showing more cases, not less if these drugs have been used as freely as drugs like aspirin.
To which I agree with you, which is why my comment isn't about its effectiveness or not against COVID19, but it being used regularly pre-pandemic as the commenter suggested, which simply can't be as HQ became parasite resistance in the 1950's and was replaced by SP's in the 80's.
I don't think it's HQ stemming spread of deaths in India, but I am just one dude with an opinion.
Not really. Between India and China you have a little barrier called the Himalayas. Additionally, they are major adversaries both in business and in border disputes. China's global ambitions aren't playing well in India and we are becoming beneficiaries of it.
We're overcounting, they're undercounting. Their cases shot up after they postponed the Olympics. They were obviously supressing numbers. That said they're the cleanest people, maybe on Earth, so them having less cases than us is not surprising.
But they have always been a clean people. That said, the Japanese population has been ravaged by epidemics such as cholera for centuries until their population was introduced to modern hygiene techniques during our occupation after WWII. Personal hygiene can only do so much without modern water ans sewage systems.
India isn't testing people. Look it up. You can't have confirmed cases if you're not testing them. We ramped up our testing 100 fold in the past two weeks, hence why things shot up. Plus in many low risk areas, the tests can take 7-15 days to process, so we're seeing people who got sick almost two weeks ago now get confirmed
Japenese people are also very nationalistic. They're just very protective of their culture, and are quite homogeneous as a nation. They have pretty strict immigration laws.
Plus Japan used some pretty draconian methods to slow the spread. Same with South Korea, where they literally doxxed people who were sick. Meanwhile my county won't even tell you the last 10 places the sick people were.
It all comes down to how things were handled. Like those asking about India, well they just aren't testing like we are. Nowhere close. Truth is things are probably not so good there, or they're still in the early phase of the spread
Actually "mild" vs "severe" has been defined pretty well from the very beginning. Mild means you can't get admitted to the hospital. Severe means you're so bad you have little chance of surviving; pneumonia. Nothing in between. So Cuomo decided that "mild" gets sent home with no treatment or maybe an inhaler designed to control asthma which is NOT what this is, and you may never be able to make it back for help if you do need it. And severe means you suffer and die in the hospital even though 9 million pills of HCQ were donated to the US and there was plenty for everyone who was infected, but only 1100 people got any. So New Yorkers panicked and fled, spreading this all over the Country.
As a patient, you're absolutely correct. Without a Dr telling you you're in really bad shape this is really serious, most people would never know. Once you continuously have trouble breathing for a couple days, you don't have much of a way to gauge how much worse you're getting; struggling to breathe is struggling to breathe.
The only thing that adds up about any of this is our Governors are mass murderers. Maybe not all of them, but most. Certainly many that haven't announced this as official policy like the Governors of NY, MI and Nevada did. To tell about your own State, just look at the numbers reported for how many people recovered. On Trump pills most people recover in 6 days. That doesn't mean literally every death was preventable, but most were since all breathing problems are gone in 2 days.
and their shitty healthcare, but we'll talk about that later. But it's quite funny these countries who have been rated to have far better healthcare than the US seem to have much higher death rates. Strange, almost like it's all just propaganda about how great things are over there
Is anyone else starting to get the sneaking suspicion that we've been bamboozled about the Wuhan flu being "shut down the entire fucking solar system" scary?
CQVFEFE, yes. There was never a reason to treat any State all the same way. Cities are densely populated. Every State has large area that is very low population density, even NJ. At most the initial 15 days to clamp down on those areas too just to get an idea of how many are infected, but after that first 15 days we saw a HUGE portion of the Country have 0-10 people infected per County. With most of those Counties being really big. So everybody infected had been flushed out, developed symptoms, knew they had it, and self-quarantined. That was the whole objective.
It was up to the Governors to lift the restrictions on those areas. DJT never imposed those restrictions, it wasn't his place to lift them. Very few States treated any area differently from any other, which is unbelievably stupid.
Did I think people would die from an engineered virus? Absolutely, we lost 80k two flu seasons ago and 900k were hospitalized.
Did we need to commit seppuku as a nation over Bill Gates' IMHE Fake Models based on Chinese Propaganda and Italy being a population in decline? Absolutely not.
Trump tried to tell everyone on Hannity on March 4th, don't panic. Media pivots against that once they knew what direction he was going. I'm assuming they would accuse him of however many people they claimed died of Kung Flu as murder counts against POTUS. His poll numbers have risen but at the expense of paralyzing the country and the economy.
God, I hope the media, bureaucrats(medical ones too), governors, mayors, and corporate terrorists that waged this psyop on a malleable citizenry get the reckoning they so rightly deserve.
The death rate being so high was a MASSIVE FUCK UP.
You have to understand, we were only testing those with severe symptoms in the beginning. So yea, obviously the death rate is going to seem higher than it is. As soon as we started ramping up testing, we went down to like .4%. And even that is still higher than what it actually is because of all the asymptomatic people not being tested
Think about it, if we only tested for the flu on the people who go to the hospital for it, the death rate would be way higher
I said that from the jump and was called a "muh nothingburger tard", I'm almost certain this whole entire thing was a huge hoax to obviously ruin Trump's chances for re-election, they literally politicized flu season. THIS IS HOW DESPERATE THEY ARE to get Trump the fuck out of the White House.
Every time they think they got him, he succeeds. Trump has easily been the most attacked president, and he's been bulletproof.
How many times has Twitter said "the walls are closing in", only for Trump to come out better than he was because it turned out the walls weren't closing in, the democrats were just trying to build them as close as possible with glue and popsicle sticks
I've been having that sneaking suspicion. When the local Leftists all started pushing the "flatten the curve" narrative I just assumed it was a combination of A: repeating something they read on Facebook trying to sound smart B: wishful thinking that they could sit home from work/school and/or celebrate their long-running NEET-ness but with gibs-enhancement. As it turns out, it was both.
Well it appears that we have flattened the curve too much. We're not using the resources that were prepared; and by over-flattening, we have extended the curve in time.
Geotus really needs to get better advisors and Bill Gates needs to sit down and shut up.
I'm not complaining, it is much better to have resources to spare and I certainly would not want to see this Wu-Flu take the course it could have.
But: considering Fauci and Birx are both long-time high-level government employees with alliances to questionable Deep-State types, I don't trust them any more than Bill Gates (which is to say less than zero.) All of them are narcissistic opportunists reveling in new-found attention and/or restored public relevance.
Yea it's possible we end up having a second higher peak because of it. Fact of the matter is, even with a second higher peak - we need to get back to work. Just be smart, if you have masks you might as well wear one if you're going to the store. Wash your hands often. Feeling sick? STAY HOME.
no reason to shut down the world. Just be smart people. As you can see, people are still dying regardless of all this nonsense
Yay! People avoiding hospitals, do you know for a fact that they're able to get Trump pills? I haven't paid much attention to what Newsom is doing on that front. Many other States we can't, despite the Governor making no official announcement of such policy.
Could be. That's not what I read. I read that 3 days after it was fully functional and ready to start receiving patients, the decision was made to move it. Maybe you're going off when the outside structure was visibly built?
CNN: "Reducing beds is RAYCISS! Anonymous source claims they need fewer beds because they intend to turn minorities away from the hospital! REEEEEEEE!"
With all of the models being so wrong, hospitals coming down, ventilators not needed, governors seizing power....it’s almost like this was all orchestrated somehow. 🤷🏻
I’ve noticed an uptick in Coronavirus TV commercials where they show montages of exhausted medical workers and these giant makeshift hospital spaces lined with beds and I’m like, where are these exactly? Who are they for, because I’m in a heavy hit area and have been in and out of the hospital for another reason in the past few months and it’s a ghost town.
These Coronavirus hospital bed commercials are a total exaggeration.
I'm calling it now: the next fake news narrative is how Trump overreacted to the Chinese virus.
And the Leftards' model of pandemic response, Singapore, just went to lockdown. Only Taiwan, aka Republic of China aka the Real China but not the source of the Chinese virus, seems unscathed economically and in terms of casualties. But fake news won't acknowledge that.
The same shit happened in Wuhan. We were told they were building Huoshenshan for a thousand people but instead it held 80 patients, presumably VIPs, and probably the poor mofos who were about to donate their lungs to the VIPs.
I am on the ground in MI with hospital systems. Outside of two MISMANAGED hospitals MI has not even come close to capacity, one hosptial understaffed and refused to pay up for teaveling professionals, the other appears to simply be on a COVID/CMS money grab and wants as many patients as possible. Avg across most systems is 60-50% ICU load which is LOWER than normal so they are LAYING PEOPLE OFF.
There was supposed to be a 500 bed temporary hospital provided by UM. That was cancelled yesterday. the one in Cobo has like 25 patients. Useless.
MEANWHILE WE ARE ON SOFT MARTIAL LAW. BY LAW you cannot have ANY private gathering. Such as having you mom over for easter breakfast. I could go on but its stupid. Whitmer is a fascist pig and I have a prediction for you:
Lockdowns will have meant nothing. Intubations are a bad idea.
Thank god they squandered every fucking dime theyve ever been given by our population on top,of this mismanagement when good leadership was finally needed.
I feel like the entire nation is being gaslit by our sensationalist media, and by bad-faith actors in positions of power and influence. All you hear on the MSM every day is "hospitals at capacity, not enough beds or ventilators, sick and dying spilling out into the hallways, mass graves being dug," etc, etc, but yet article after article also about hospitals reducing the number of beds, thousands of ventilators sitting in warehouses because "they aren't needed right now," hospitals reducing staff, field hospitals closing after a week without having seen a single person, that hospital ship in New York sitting at like 1/5th capacity...
Gov. Halfwhit is our They are stopping people from buying a car seat or socks because it is so deadly, but meanwhile They are closing down the overflow hospitals something doesn’t add up
Trump did it because if he didn't it would have added more ammo to their attacks. Now he can say hey I did all I could to help local hospitals deal with the influx of patients. Plus if the media is dumb enough to try and get the military opinion the commanders will say hey any deployment is invaluable training for the troops so no waste of time and resources in our view. The media tried to flip the script during the hurricanes when the military deployed so heavily but wasn't needed and giddy reporters were asking the the gotcha questions of wasted money to the brass and the brass told them hey we love a good deployment and count is as training. Lets see if they do it again and you know they will.
Please look at what DJT's directed us to do again. He didn't violate the Constitution. He didn't even come close to skirting any laws. That's all on Governors (and a few Mayors)
There's no legal basis to quarantine the healthy, nor to shut down even one whole community. DJT didn't do any of that. Neither did he get us 40 million pills of HCQ DONATED just so we'd hoard them, and have Governors practice medicine without a license interfering with a Dr's ability to get medicine to sick people. This is mass murder!
Yup unfortunately this wasn't something he could fight the media on, not when they can blast every fucking vague death on TV 24/7. The MSM had the winning narrative and Trump knew it.
I think the situation is different from that. DJT earnestly didn't want people to suffer and die if it was avoidable. He left Governors slack to call shots in their own States because it's the right thing to do, and the Constitution says so.
The mismanagement of Governors that's costing lives hurts him personally, you can see it. For the media to relentlessly attack him now is heartless.
Liberal media hyped the presidency in order to libel and slander the president. It's always, by law, been on the governors to handle these calls for their states.
They attacked him for taking action and then lied and said he failed to act when it was governors responsible to act within their states.
They've told mild cases to stay at home. I would suspect even some bad cases never see a hospital and just ride it out. As they would have no clue what is bad and what isn't. Since no one will ever see them to tell them.
The way hospitals are dealing with this from what we've been hearing about in the last month just doesn't add up.
Exactly this, it’s happening in other countries too, you could have the China flu and have no symptom and get hit by a car and they would say the cause of death was China flu,
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if you could be perfectly healthy, get hit by a car, and have cause of death listed as China flu.
That’s happening
Yes it is, they will test during autopsy and if CV is found they are taking the extra money and calling it death by CV. The whole system is rigged to encourage over reporting the number of CV deaths. Trump should stop that subsidy immediately so we can get honest numbers and end this hysteria.
He should, but will he? I hope
My tummy was upset. Pretty sure it was Covid. Then I farted. Taco bell drive thru is killing me.
Taco Bell has subtly become one of the healthiest fast-food chains
https://www.businessinsider.com/taco-bell-as-a-healthy-fast-food-chain-2016-2
As told by the Taco Bell employee in the article..
Kathy Griffin, is that you?
Now all restaurants are Taco Bell.
Interesting Pres. Trump wants to separate hospital funding from other relief bills.
Where I work our timecard is coded "covid" if anyone is swabbed they are in isolation until results come in. We has been consistently over staffed. So far only 2 patients have come back positive.
This is what Fauci and Birx are afraid will come out.
Nope. Something definitley smells. Japan for instance, has a population of 126 mil. Only has ~100 deaths. Doesn't make any sense.
The Japanese do have a different reaction to being sick than we do, by having a higher social cohesion and homogeneity.
The Japanese wear masks as a matter of fact if they're 'feeling bad' to prevent it from spreading to their family/friends/coworkers, while we in America just pop a 'feel better pill' and go on with our lives to spread whatever we might have.
The Japanese are cleanfreaks and use hand sanitizers and wash hands quite a bit, while we in America statistically don't.
They also have bad blood with China, worse than we have, so they didn't fall for the 'Chinese-virus is racist' bullshit and jumped on isolating it like a starving dog on a well cooked steak.
Ok then explain India. More than a billion people. Only 273 deaths.
Literally everyone in India takes anti-malaria meds.
I don't think its just that though I'm sure its a factor. Reports of over representation of covid19 by several sources in the states, already. I think the deaths in the US are wildly off.
They are.
Definitely, the system was rigged to bleed more money from taxpayers and to blow up the number of deaths reported as coronavirus for political optics. "Muh USA has more CV deaths than any other country!" "Impeach!"
Trump really needs to have all of these hospitals audited to get America the truth.
Trying to justify all the needless resources and taxpayer $$$ that have been wasted on this so-called emergency?
Why not? Our entire national debt is because of democratic programs started to get and keep power.
Numerous scientific journals have already cited anti-malarial drugs such as hydroxychloroquine are less effective (that is, more prone to resistance) in communities where they have been over-used.
Not trying to counter-point you in a rude way, it's just that your argument, according to science, should be showing more cases, not less if these drugs have been used as freely as drugs like aspirin.
I politely disagree. 'Less effective' does not mean 'makes it worse'.
Exactly. Less effective is still more effective than not taking it at all
To which I agree with you, which is why my comment isn't about its effectiveness or not against COVID19, but it being used regularly pre-pandemic as the commenter suggested, which simply can't be as HQ became parasite resistance in the 1950's and was replaced by SP's in the 80's.
I don't think it's HQ stemming spread of deaths in India, but I am just one dude with an opinion.
You got the links/evidence?
Haven’t seen those yet, but just by case frequency that seems unusual.
That, I have no idea about. Considering their proximity to China, they should be overrun with cases but they aren't reporting those kind of numbers.
Not really. Between India and China you have a little barrier called the Himalayas. Additionally, they are major adversaries both in business and in border disputes. China's global ambitions aren't playing well in India and we are becoming beneficiaries of it.
wait...are you saying a big beautiful natural wall works????
Who would have thought? ??
Embarrassingly, I completely forgot about one of the largest mountain ranges in the world... oops?
I wouldn't have thought of it either - it's early a.m. here, too early to think!
We're overcounting, they're undercounting. Their cases shot up after they postponed the Olympics. They were obviously supressing numbers. That said they're the cleanest people, maybe on Earth, so them having less cases than us is not surprising.
That's probably correct, about the Olympics, as no government will tell the complete truth of the situation.
It's the tentacle sex keeping them healthy
Can't catch the WuFlu if you're an Otaku Hikikomori!
But they have always been a clean people. That said, the Japanese population has been ravaged by epidemics such as cholera for centuries until their population was introduced to modern hygiene techniques during our occupation after WWII. Personal hygiene can only do so much without modern water ans sewage systems.
living in india must make anyone basically immune against everything
I also heard the virus is less active in hot areas. India is pretty hot, right?
Also, constantly breathing the fumes of shit-smeared streets might have boosted their immune systems over the years? Just a thought.
Or they just don't have massive over reporting of COVID deaths.
India isn't testing people. Look it up. You can't have confirmed cases if you're not testing them. We ramped up our testing 100 fold in the past two weeks, hence why things shot up. Plus in many low risk areas, the tests can take 7-15 days to process, so we're seeing people who got sick almost two weeks ago now get confirmed
So explain Japan then. They didn't even lock down their country.
Japenese people are also very nationalistic. They're just very protective of their culture, and are quite homogeneous as a nation. They have pretty strict immigration laws.
Plus Japan used some pretty draconian methods to slow the spread. Same with South Korea, where they literally doxxed people who were sick. Meanwhile my county won't even tell you the last 10 places the sick people were.
It all comes down to how things were handled. Like those asking about India, well they just aren't testing like we are. Nowhere close. Truth is things are probably not so good there, or they're still in the early phase of the spread
What about asymptomatic spread?
Actually "mild" vs "severe" has been defined pretty well from the very beginning. Mild means you can't get admitted to the hospital. Severe means you're so bad you have little chance of surviving; pneumonia. Nothing in between. So Cuomo decided that "mild" gets sent home with no treatment or maybe an inhaler designed to control asthma which is NOT what this is, and you may never be able to make it back for help if you do need it. And severe means you suffer and die in the hospital even though 9 million pills of HCQ were donated to the US and there was plenty for everyone who was infected, but only 1100 people got any. So New Yorkers panicked and fled, spreading this all over the Country.
As a patient, you're absolutely correct. Without a Dr telling you you're in really bad shape this is really serious, most people would never know. Once you continuously have trouble breathing for a couple days, you don't have much of a way to gauge how much worse you're getting; struggling to breathe is struggling to breathe.
The only thing that adds up about any of this is our Governors are mass murderers. Maybe not all of them, but most. Certainly many that haven't announced this as official policy like the Governors of NY, MI and Nevada did. To tell about your own State, just look at the numbers reported for how many people recovered. On Trump pills most people recover in 6 days. That doesn't mean literally every death was preventable, but most were since all breathing problems are gone in 2 days.
Apparently big mistake Italy made was have everyone show up at the hospital.
and their shitty healthcare, but we'll talk about that later. But it's quite funny these countries who have been rated to have far better healthcare than the US seem to have much higher death rates. Strange, almost like it's all just propaganda about how great things are over there
This 250 bed hospital will never open or will be closed within a week.
Is anyone else starting to get the sneaking suspicion that we've been bamboozled about the Wuhan flu being "shut down the entire fucking solar system" scary?
CQVFEFE, yes. There was never a reason to treat any State all the same way. Cities are densely populated. Every State has large area that is very low population density, even NJ. At most the initial 15 days to clamp down on those areas too just to get an idea of how many are infected, but after that first 15 days we saw a HUGE portion of the Country have 0-10 people infected per County. With most of those Counties being really big. So everybody infected had been flushed out, developed symptoms, knew they had it, and self-quarantined. That was the whole objective.
It was up to the Governors to lift the restrictions on those areas. DJT never imposed those restrictions, it wasn't his place to lift them. Very few States treated any area differently from any other, which is unbelievably stupid.
Did I think people would die from an engineered virus? Absolutely, we lost 80k two flu seasons ago and 900k were hospitalized.
Did we need to commit seppuku as a nation over Bill Gates' IMHE Fake Models based on Chinese Propaganda and Italy being a population in decline? Absolutely not.
Trump tried to tell everyone on Hannity on March 4th, don't panic. Media pivots against that once they knew what direction he was going. I'm assuming they would accuse him of however many people they claimed died of Kung Flu as murder counts against POTUS. His poll numbers have risen but at the expense of paralyzing the country and the economy.
God, I hope the media, bureaucrats(medical ones too), governors, mayors, and corporate terrorists that waged this psyop on a malleable citizenry get the reckoning they so rightly deserve.
Hannity GEOTUS 3/4/20 Interview re: Kung Flu. Fuck China, Happy Easter. https://youtu.be/fqjrlKfW93I?t=11m37s
"Death rate report of 3.4% is a false number
Lots of people get and get better rapidly, lots get it and don't even know they have it, some even have gone to work without knowing(asymptomatic)"
https://youtu.be/fqjrlKfW93I?t=23m30s
So why are we still shutdown? Reopen this fucking economy and get people back to work
The death rate being so high was a MASSIVE FUCK UP.
You have to understand, we were only testing those with severe symptoms in the beginning. So yea, obviously the death rate is going to seem higher than it is. As soon as we started ramping up testing, we went down to like .4%. And even that is still higher than what it actually is because of all the asymptomatic people not being tested
Think about it, if we only tested for the flu on the people who go to the hospital for it, the death rate would be way higher
Flu numbers are faker than anything going on with Covid.
Funny they were four digits when 0bama took office.
I said that from the jump and was called a "muh nothingburger tard", I'm almost certain this whole entire thing was a huge hoax to obviously ruin Trump's chances for re-election, they literally politicized flu season. THIS IS HOW DESPERATE THEY ARE to get Trump the fuck out of the White House.
Flu is down 77% in New York State.
https://nyshc.health.ny.gov/web/nyapd/new-york-state-flu-tracker
And it raised his popularity. So much hair being ripped out right now.
Every time they think they got him, he succeeds. Trump has easily been the most attacked president, and he's been bulletproof.
How many times has Twitter said "the walls are closing in", only for Trump to come out better than he was because it turned out the walls weren't closing in, the democrats were just trying to build them as close as possible with glue and popsicle sticks
I’ve said it’s a hoax since day one too. I fought the good fight on r/coronavirus but that was maddening. See my posts here. It’s a JOKE.
I've been having that sneaking suspicion. When the local Leftists all started pushing the "flatten the curve" narrative I just assumed it was a combination of A: repeating something they read on Facebook trying to sound smart B: wishful thinking that they could sit home from work/school and/or celebrate their long-running NEET-ness but with gibs-enhancement. As it turns out, it was both.
Well it appears that we have flattened the curve too much. We're not using the resources that were prepared; and by over-flattening, we have extended the curve in time.
Geotus really needs to get better advisors and Bill Gates needs to sit down and shut up.
^ This! ^
I'm not complaining, it is much better to have resources to spare and I certainly would not want to see this Wu-Flu take the course it could have.
But: considering Fauci and Birx are both long-time high-level government employees with alliances to questionable Deep-State types, I don't trust them any more than Bill Gates (which is to say less than zero.) All of them are narcissistic opportunists reveling in new-found attention and/or restored public relevance.
Fauci is on record (accidentally, LOL) via emails found at Wikileaks, gushing praise for Crooked Hillary.
Birx is married to Bill Clinton's former presidential travel coordinator.
And of course Bill Gates has a long record of funding harmful and deceptive vaccines deployed on unsuspecting 3rd-world people. (Moar fun with that: his father was a former head of Planned "Parenthood.")
Yea it's possible we end up having a second higher peak because of it. Fact of the matter is, even with a second higher peak - we need to get back to work. Just be smart, if you have masks you might as well wear one if you're going to the store. Wash your hands often. Feeling sick? STAY HOME.
no reason to shut down the world. Just be smart people. As you can see, people are still dying regardless of all this nonsense
The risk will never be zero.
Dont bring the common sense.
My old man is.. well, old. He stays home. Me, I am a beacon of health and MAGA power, I can go out with others. That's what should have happened.
"at risk, sick, can get away with not going to work.. stay your asses home"
Yeah they completely dismantled the one here in Seattle before it was even used.
3 days after it was set up. Do you think there's any chance any of that capacity will be needed?
Obviously I am not an authoritative source, but I don’t think so. Cases are only up a few hundred a day and people are avoiding hospitals otherwise
Yay! People avoiding hospitals, do you know for a fact that they're able to get Trump pills? I haven't paid much attention to what Newsom is doing on that front. Many other States we can't, despite the Governor making no official announcement of such policy.
I believe it was 9 days after it was set up. You're off by a factor of 3x.
Could be. That's not what I read. I read that 3 days after it was fully functional and ready to start receiving patients, the decision was made to move it. Maybe you're going off when the outside structure was visibly built?
Still 246 beds too many.
CNN: "Reducing beds is RAYCISS! Anonymous source claims they need fewer beds because they intend to turn minorities away from the hospital! REEEEEEEE!"
With all of the models being so wrong, hospitals coming down, ventilators not needed, governors seizing power....it’s almost like this was all orchestrated somehow. 🤷🏻
I’ve noticed an uptick in Coronavirus TV commercials where they show montages of exhausted medical workers and these giant makeshift hospital spaces lined with beds and I’m like, where are these exactly? Who are they for, because I’m in a heavy hit area and have been in and out of the hospital for another reason in the past few months and it’s a ghost town.
These Coronavirus hospital bed commercials are a total exaggeration.
Lol and people don't think "crisis actors" are a thing, we're all literally being played like a damn fiddle.
And the average American has no idea. Sad day
Italy, probably.
Good news. Everywhere but NYC is doing excellent.
I'm calling it now: the next fake news narrative is how Trump overreacted to the Chinese virus.
And the Leftards' model of pandemic response, Singapore, just went to lockdown. Only Taiwan, aka Republic of China aka the Real China but not the source of the Chinese virus, seems unscathed economically and in terms of casualties. But fake news won't acknowledge that.
The China Virus was no match for Team Trump and the American people. China must be weeping as they prepare to buy up Europe in the upcoming firesale.
China is going to get FUCKED in the next few months.
The same shit happened in Wuhan. We were told they were building Huoshenshan for a thousand people but instead it held 80 patients, presumably VIPs, and probably the poor mofos who were about to donate their lungs to the VIPs.
I am on the ground in MI with hospital systems. Outside of two MISMANAGED hospitals MI has not even come close to capacity, one hosptial understaffed and refused to pay up for teaveling professionals, the other appears to simply be on a COVID/CMS money grab and wants as many patients as possible. Avg across most systems is 60-50% ICU load which is LOWER than normal so they are LAYING PEOPLE OFF.
There was supposed to be a 500 bed temporary hospital provided by UM. That was cancelled yesterday. the one in Cobo has like 25 patients. Useless.
MEANWHILE WE ARE ON SOFT MARTIAL LAW. BY LAW you cannot have ANY private gathering. Such as having you mom over for easter breakfast. I could go on but its stupid. Whitmer is a fascist pig and I have a prediction for you:
Lockdowns will have meant nothing. Intubations are a bad idea.
My wife who was working at the Mccormick place "hospital" in Chicago said the 3500 beds are getting turned into a homeless shelter.
Thank god they squandered every fucking dime theyve ever been given by our population on top,of this mismanagement when good leadership was finally needed.
I feel like the entire nation is being gaslit by our sensationalist media, and by bad-faith actors in positions of power and influence. All you hear on the MSM every day is "hospitals at capacity, not enough beds or ventilators, sick and dying spilling out into the hallways, mass graves being dug," etc, etc, but yet article after article also about hospitals reducing the number of beds, thousands of ventilators sitting in warehouses because "they aren't needed right now," hospitals reducing staff, field hospitals closing after a week without having seen a single person, that hospital ship in New York sitting at like 1/5th capacity...
None of it adds up.
Gov. Halfwhit is our They are stopping people from buying a car seat or socks because it is so deadly, but meanwhile They are closing down the overflow hospitals something doesn’t add up
LOL. This hoax needs to end now.
FauxDemic
About 1/4 the estimated number thanks to bullshit fake overblown leftist models, and they don't even need that.
Won't even need the 250.
Trump did it because if he didn't it would have added more ammo to their attacks. Now he can say hey I did all I could to help local hospitals deal with the influx of patients. Plus if the media is dumb enough to try and get the military opinion the commanders will say hey any deployment is invaluable training for the troops so no waste of time and resources in our view. The media tried to flip the script during the hurricanes when the military deployed so heavily but wasn't needed and giddy reporters were asking the the gotcha questions of wasted money to the brass and the brass told them hey we love a good deployment and count is as training. Lets see if they do it again and you know they will.
Please look at what DJT's directed us to do again. He didn't violate the Constitution. He didn't even come close to skirting any laws. That's all on Governors (and a few Mayors)
There's no legal basis to quarantine the healthy, nor to shut down even one whole community. DJT didn't do any of that. Neither did he get us 40 million pills of HCQ DONATED just so we'd hoard them, and have Governors practice medicine without a license interfering with a Dr's ability to get medicine to sick people. This is mass murder!
Yup unfortunately this wasn't something he could fight the media on, not when they can blast every fucking vague death on TV 24/7. The MSM had the winning narrative and Trump knew it.
I think the situation is different from that. DJT earnestly didn't want people to suffer and die if it was avoidable. He left Governors slack to call shots in their own States because it's the right thing to do, and the Constitution says so.
The mismanagement of Governors that's costing lives hurts him personally, you can see it. For the media to relentlessly attack him now is heartless.
No, governors were the only ones with the power.
Liberal media hyped the presidency in order to libel and slander the president. It's always, by law, been on the governors to handle these calls for their states.
They attacked him for taking action and then lied and said he failed to act when it was governors responsible to act within their states.
That's merely rewording what I said. We agree.
He didn't "leave them" to do anything. I'm correcting the false impression the media laid out.
At most, he could have asked them to act sooner. He couldn't make them.
I guess you didn't read the part where I referred to the Constitution.
And in knowing their playbook he has been able to counter them at every turn. Those daily press briefings are genius.
They won't learn. They're too full of hate. Hateful people don't think. They only feel.
Because they're not needed, and this is entirely overblown.
Meanwhile in Michigan where this story takes place we are on super double lockdown per orders of Frau Gretchen.
Detroit? This is obviously racist.
Good idea. Even if all the beds are empty, the fake news will keep going on about how many beds there are (as if they're all needed).
And why do you think that is OP?