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OMBOMB 153 points ago +157 / -4

Goading President into firing him?

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ChaplainTappman 51 points ago +51 / -0

Standard practice on Facebook. The demos are hilarious!

That's why showing the corpse of a deleted post is important for context.

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NvJohansson 40 points ago +40 / -0

I thought Pence banned that idiot from mainstream media? But anyways fuck them.

https://i.maga.host/kLQPIhA.jpeg

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ChuckedBeef 36 points ago +36 / -0

Listen to the interview and read the article, this post headline in particular and Brietbart's sensationalist headline is bullshit fake news. Faucci never once said that Trump should have mitigated earlier, he was speaking generally, even talking about himself. He simply said "would it have been better to catch it earlier, of course" but he knows that everyone was on the same page including himself and certainly the media in not wanting to close up the country.

Honestly this looks more like an attempt to goad Trump into firing Faucci by his own "supporters".

Show me the clip where Faucci directly says we would have been better off if Trump had banned travel or mitigated earlier...? Where is it? He says "We".

If anything it's an implication against the mainstream media because they were the ones screaming their heads off calling Trump a racist xenophobe for even talking about closing up the country.

This headline is as bad as Schiff making up "what Trump really meant" in this case it's "what Faucci really meant". BULLSHIT.

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NvJohansson 17 points ago +18 / -1

The fact remains Pence specifically banned him from media interviews to avoid any ambiguity.

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dakkath 15 points ago +15 / -0

Thank you. Fake news on both sides is bull shit

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Mrsattorney 13 points ago +13 / -0

I agree with you for the most part. I saw the interview, and Fauci did not really say what his being attributed to him here. What bothers me is that Fauci provides sound bites that will be taken out of context, which then creates a big shitshow for the WH to clean up. He can't be that stupid, so I wonder if it's intentional.

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

April 11, 2020: When Jesse Waters at Fox asks him when he first believed that this was a problem Americans needed to worry about…” Fauci answers, “It was in January.” But he immediately goes on to say “it was at a time” when there was “incorrect information” from the WHO. It sounds as if he thinks Watters is asking him WHY he did NOT believe the virus was a threat in January. (Being overly defensive, perhaps.)

https://twitter.com/WattersWorld/status/1249142817391337483

Maybe Fauci IS just getting old and a little confused. But given his praise in the past for some extremely sketchy characters Adhanom and Hillary, and the fact that he’s been embedded in the Globalist Matrix for decades—I still suspicion the man, in general.

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm wondering the same thing. Is he just a confused old man, or is that an act?

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the clarification pede. I’ve been celebrating Easter all day and missed the details of these headlines. Glad you cleared things up.

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unable_afternoon 19 points ago +19 / -0
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Tejanopede 13 points ago +13 / -0

The deep state cries out in pain as it strikes Trump.

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rootGoose 20 points ago +20 / -0

I’m thinking they infected bats and then purposely sold them as meat to the market.

  • It allows them to be “correct” while still being dishonest about its origin
  • It gives them cover since a research paper already put this theory with a corrupt worker selling the bats to the market
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SnowflakeJuice 3 points ago +3 / -0

Most likely scenario is that infected worker transmitted it to others, although I do find the fact that the virus did not spread to the rest of China disturbing. Almost as if they planned for this in advance and gave others a vaccine

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schiff_for_brains 3 points ago +3 / -0

My idea: somehow used gloves from the lab ended up in the wet market. Likely diverted from incineration.

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NADSAQ 2 points ago +2 / -0

gloves or animal carcasses

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muslimporn 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are so many scenarios where this could be done deliberately. The viruses are already out there in animals, they just need to find them then take one, let a human get infected and that human will spread it around in their normal daily activities.

There's a lot of fake news though that you might be basing the bat scenario on.

It's not been shown scientifically that kung flu is from bats or from eating bats. No one actually knows how it got into humans.

A lot of press is saying it's found in bats but this isn't accurate. A fairly close relative is found in bats but it's not the same coronavirus that's infecting humans right now.

It's still a novel virus and no one knows exactly which animals it came from. Viruses jump species if they evolve to get around border control in another species a bit like humans migrating countries. If we have an immigrant to the USA and we find they have a 5th cousin or a common ancestor in Austria such as great great great grand parents it doesn't tell us they're flying in from Austria. There are many different possible pathways. They could have been born and raised in France going back several generations.

The same applies here. It could have come from many animals and I don't think there are any animals the Chinese won't eat or consume in some fashion.

There's a lot of plausible deniability because something like this can happen naturally. Scientists are already collecting samples from animals to find viruses that can or could infect humans with a very small amount of genetic modification. When discovering those potentials it only takes a very small amount of effort to make it happen, not necessarily a detectable effort.

It's spooky, since a few years ago I've been warning people online of a problem with a biological threat and genetic engineering. The problem is not just that WMDs can be made like that but they can be released and it might be impossible to know who did it and in some cases it might be impossible to know whether or not it happened naturally.

I've been studying this geopolitically in the context of nuclear weapons and what might supercede them. Biological technology and nanotechnology is going to be a game changer.

No one knows either how it ended up at the animal market (see food is misleading, they sold all sorts of animals). We don't know the full pathway for the virus and of the possible pathways the lab is one among other possible pathways with human intervention.

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AlohaChris 12 points ago +12 / -0

It came from the virology lab in Wuhan, of that I now have no doubt. The only questions that remain are:

Was it a failure of Biosafety? (Negligence)

Was it a failure of Biosecurity? (Theft, with potentiality malevolent intent)

Was it intentional? (Malevolence, biological warfare)

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AlohaChris 6 points ago +6 / -0

The same Shi Zhengli who no one has seen alive in weeks and who’s bio is scrubbed from the Wuhan Virology Lab website?

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muslimporn 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not sure it was Shi that disappeared but instead one of the lesser known lab workers I thought.

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SnowflakeJuice 2 points ago +2 / -0

More like the $6 trillion question

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thisisatestof2 6 points ago +6 / -0

I've always thought it was a security issue. Someone probably found a bunch of bats that had been used for whatever they were doing and not properly secured or disposed of and took them to sell to make a quick buck to feed their family.

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NADSAQ 2 points ago +2 / -0

This seems the most plausible to me, although that doesn’t explain why it hit the Iranian gov’t so hard and fast.

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BytheDozen13 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll choose: It was intentional, thus malevolence, biological warfare.....

Is it not the 184 countries, (which were affected by their intentional warfare), turn at bat, with the guilty CCP, in the outfield without gloves....

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

The wet market doesn't even sell bats. And anyway, in one study, half the patients had never even been to the market. The nearest horseshoe bat colony is hundreds of miles away.The bats were taken from there to the Lab for study. The bat virus by itself is not transmissible to humans. The one they engineered IS. They added an S protein "spike" that allows it to penetrate human cell walls. Why would they want to do that? It became a bioweapon, whether that was the plan or not.

Here's an in-depth investigation I found educational and ALARMING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bXWGxhd7ic

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Sea_Still 31 points ago +32 / -1

Bingo!

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Chopblock 7 points ago +7 / -0

PLEASE NOTE: The characterization in the headline AND in the Breitbart article MISQUOTES what Fauci actually said.

Much like they misquoted Trump when they reported that he said ‘Everyone who wants a test...’ when what he actually said was “Anyone who needs a test, if there’s a doctor that wants to test...”

A small but important difference!

Fauci, as much as he might be a squirmy shit, is clearly saying that ‘muh could have done something faster to save lives’ is nothing but a tautological truism, and he’s right.

...And if we had ‘done something’ even earlier, we could have killed baby Hitler.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 2 points ago +2 / -0

Democrats gonna Democrat.

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Proud_American 75 points ago +79 / -4

“Fauci said, “You know, Jake, again, it’s the what would have, what could have. It’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives. Obviously, no one is going to deny that. But what goes into those kinds of decisions is complicated. But you’re right, I mean, obviously, if we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”

There is nothing wrong with this statement, but exposes why he should not be going on TV. The media is trying to divide the base and stir the pot. By taking advantage of the answer they know he will give as a doctor, they are framing his position to appear as if he is conspiring behind the President’s back.

Trump will not fire Fauci for a whole hosts of reasons. He will also make the right decision at the right time to open us up for business.

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Trumper007 37 points ago +37 / -0

Yeah thats why Trump hasn't fcked him - he knows what Tapper is up to. He also knows that 5% trust the media. Even Fauci knows he was telling everyone not to worry in FEB and Gov Cuomo was telling everyone to 'get out' in March.

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HanAssholeSolo 13 points ago +13 / -0

They were all calling Trump racist for shutting down international flights several days before other countries did. I hope Schiff does try this and the public calls him on it. The Democrats will be finished forever.

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AlohaSnackbar 0 points ago +2 / -2

Maybe he should be fired for incompetence. "Fauci, you're too fucking stupid not to give them a soundbite that will undermine the government's efforts. " "Get your shit, and get the fuck outta here"

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MaxineWaters4Prez 26 points ago +26 / -0

Imagine how awesome this country would be if the democrats didn't spend 100% of their time trying to kill us, bankrupt us, unemploy us, and throw landmines in front of the president so he has to tiptoe around their bullshit traps.

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Timeloop13 22 points ago +22 / -0

Well put. The line that is controversial is where he ambiguously says “there was a lot of push back”...ok, by whom? It could be Governors, businesses, Trump, or just public perception. And now it will be used against Trump to create division, which Fauci has said previously, has not been their relationship.

Like you correctly stated, this is why he shouldn’t be on TV.

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 15 points ago +16 / -1

Host Jake Tapper asked, “The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week of February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16th, almost a month later. Why?”

Fauci said, “As I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OFTEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS TAKEN. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS: WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW."

Sounds like a weasily-phrased criticism of Trump to me.

It comes before the part you quoted. It's like the headline to an NYT article, where qualifications are buried a few paragraphs down. The headline (the first statement) is what sticks in the mind of a cuck, and just what a crook like Schiff may exploit as a talking point, using his trademark creative paraphrasing.

Does that prove Fauci and Schiff are colluding? How do you prove that? All I have to go on in trying to understand this pandemic is the remarkable number of coincidences, and convenient timing and sketchy timelines. This one fits into that pattern.

I realize I've got a hair-trigger when it comes to seeing sinister things going on behind the scenes here. On the other hand, given what we already know about the Swamp and the Deep State and the Globalist oligarchs and China, you'd have to be crazy not to be at least a little paranoid...

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fauci's stupid fucking autistic answers...

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Thenew23rd 39 points ago +44 / -5

Where are those posters who downvoted me to oblivion for quoting one of Fauci's anti-Trump attacks?

It wasn't that long ago.

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freewillsetstruth 11 points ago +21 / -10

You're absolutely right. This forum has done a 180. I love Donald Trump, but I'm unsure I could trust a majority of this forum to make the right decision when the shit hits the fan!

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Thenew23rd 15 points ago +18 / -3

The Trust The Plan crew sees everything as 4DChess. That leaves no room for, A, longtime government officials who have far more loyalty to the establishment than to Trump, or B, appointees who take it upon themselves to backstab Trump after they're confirmed

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BoughtByBloomberg 9 points ago +9 / -0

What we trust in is that the President WILL overcome that. Remember when people were screeching about the wall not being built and Trump should just declare martial law and build it? The same people you are criticizing now are telling you:

"Trust the president, he wouldn't keep people on his staff if he 1: Could fire them without expending political capital or 2: He didn't trust them to get the job done."

Wall is being built. Immigration dropped way down. Tax cuts were passed. Hundreds of court cases are running in courts freshly staffed with constitutionalist judges.

I think the President has proven at this point to be more savvy than his enemies.

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unable_afternoon 3 points ago +4 / -1

hopefully this whole corona ordeal is showing people that trump draining the swamp isn't the "all according to plan" cakewalk we originally thought it would be. i remember many people thinking we would have arrests within the first week of his presidency. if we're in this same situation four years from now then we're all going to look and feel like idiots.

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Thenew23rd 3 points ago +5 / -2

I don't recall people expecting immediate arrests until that hoaxer Q started up. Then Trump supporters started advocating for all the worst anti Trump establishment plsyers: Sessions, Wray, Horowitz and Huber.

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unable_afternoon 6 points ago +7 / -1

i recall the q stuff starting well after he was already in office. people on 4chan and the_donald were talking about it early though. you also had tons of rallies with full crowds chanting "lock her up". people wanted arrests from the beginning.

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Thenew23rd 1 point ago +2 / -1

You're right about the 'Lock her up.' That started very early.

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Crimson_Identity 2 points ago +3 / -1

Q is the deep state. Just another form of control.

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Thenew23rd 1 point ago +2 / -1

Agree. Why else persuade the believers to trust the Deep State? And why assure them that "midterms are safe," when they planned to steal the election via vote harvesting?

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lanre 5 points ago +6 / -1

Shut up concern troll! /s

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Thenew23rd 5 points ago +5 / -0

Shill. My preferred pronoun is shill.

Just kidding.

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BoughtByBloomberg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shill/Hack

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Thenew23rd 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haha--much better!

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jrgreen73 25 points ago +25 / -0

Fauci on March 8:

Could such a mass quarantine happen in the U.S.? "It's possible," Fauci told host Chris Wallace, which is why officials are evaluating the situation every day.

"You don't want to alarm people, but given the spread we've seen, anything is possible, and that is the reason we have got to be prepared to take whatever action is appropriate to contain and mitigate the outbreak," he said.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-cruise-ships-airplanes-anthony-fauci

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Fauci is making implicit claims that he made recommendations that would have saved lives, and Trump ignored him. His own past statements don't exactly bear those claims out.

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jrgreen73 2 points ago +2 / -0

“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Anthony Fauci, Director of NIAID, March 9

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#689a77d62d4d

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, he said it, but in his heart he didn't recommend it.

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jrgreen73 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump knows what is in every person’s heart.

That’s why we worship him like a god 😄

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jrgreen73 2 points ago +2 / -0

“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Anthony Fauci, Director of NIAID, March 9

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#689a77d62d4d

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freewillsetstruth 15 points ago +15 / -0

Fauci deserves to become hypoxic!

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Znut55 14 points ago +15 / -1

You mean "a month ago" when Fauci was telling us that there was NOTHING to be concerned about and was standing with WHO that there was no animal to human transmission???

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 17 points ago +20 / -3

He keeps giving them sound bite after sound bite and he wants to screw us and downplay HCQ. His models have destroyed more lives then would have died OF covid. He is a quack.

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Heavens2MAGAtroid 12 points ago +12 / -0

They were predicting that 2 million would die. Now the prediction is 60k. They are going to impeach him for reducing the death rate by 97%? OK good luck with that,

edit: typo

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OneOfMany_MAGA 11 points ago +11 / -0

Fauci pushed against hydroxychloroquine. If it’s shown to be effective, then Trump (by promoting its use) saved a ton of lives that Fauci would have let expire.

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Nimble_navigator92 10 points ago +10 / -0

I thought pence told fauci and birx no more cnn

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PapaPepe 10 points ago +10 / -0

Every fucking time there is a democrat even remotely in a position to do anything, this happens.

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spezisthedevil 6 points ago +6 / -0

This. There is no way to safely reach across the aisle when it comes to hiring/appointing people who need to be trusted. Leftists at pretty much every level have no issues being disingenuous or bearing false witness any time they see a chance to further their wicked cause. They will even pretend to be Republicans, and lie in wait for decades like Mueller and Comey. Fauci's letters to Hillary alone should be a disqualification.

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Thingthing22 9 points ago +10 / -1

Which FUCKING LIVES? They've already made their choice on who lives and dies. Fuck him. He said it wasn't an issue. And the president acted once they nutted up and brought it to him. He's about to get wrecked by Trump. I told y'all this two faced faggot would be the next box of Trump's drain the swamp list.

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TheLiquidKnight 9 points ago +9 / -0

Schiff is on an intel committee. They would have gotten briefings about it. If they didn't it's the fault of the Agencies, not The President.

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mumblenuggets 8 points ago +9 / -1

Fauci is a socialist thug intent on mass economic destruction.

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NewPoppi 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fauci will have to explain why he was saying on record that the US had little to worry about on Jan 21

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ChaplainTappman 6 points ago +7 / -1

So they want to impeach Trump because he didn't crash the economy sooner? GTFOOH

Who do these delusional people think they are? The biggest economy in the world doesn't just get "shutdown" because of some small threat. There are HUNDREDS of small to medium threats every day and week that we don't shut the country down over. Waiting until it was clear this was a clear and present danger is a core trait of ANY President for drastic measures.

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2020magavision 5 points ago +5 / -0

Please, Liberals, start another fight. We don't get tired of winning. Because they don't get tired of losing.

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BoughtByBloomberg 4 points ago +5 / -1

A month earlier? Like the 29th when Fauci was saying do nothing?

Anyway this isn't him saying that. What he's saying is "Sure if we did things sooner more lives could have been saved" and then going into a whole slew of reasons why what we are seeing is already the best case result and saying "but what if we acted earlier" is just a woulda-coulda-shoulda non sequitor.

Look at the man. He's visibly annoyed with Tapper basically asking him the same question over and over trying to get him to say Trump should have acted sooner. The one thing he gives Tapper is "a sooner lockdown might have saved lives". Which Trump can spin back into "full blown travel bans could have saved more lives".

Don't be a Dimocrat and let yourself be guided around by headlines.

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BoughtByBloomberg 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have no love for Fauci, I think he would have done way better to recommend a staggered social distancing policy and clearly outline regulations for businesses to follow to REMAIN OPEN rather than recommending closure.

But I feel like people around here have made several mistakes:

They have mistaken a doctor's caution for subversion of the president.

They have mistaken coronavirus deaths coming in way below expectations as a failure of models rather than a success of Trump's response to it.

They have allowed themselves to be agitated (by constant media lies, government overreach and economic struggles) into "corona hoax" territory instead of keeping squarely focused on the fact that China released a plague on all of us and should pay for it.

I'll gladly speak sense and hope people get off the top of the Trump train and back in the carriage so we can continue spreading the good word of Kek.

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TrumpTrainBot 1 point ago +1 / -0

WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING, FOLKS! THE TRUMP TRAIN JUST GOT 10 BILLION MPH FASTER!

CURRENT SPEED: 360,459,385,117,000 MPH!

At that rate, it would take approximately 4.655 years to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 million light-years)!

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leing15 0 points ago +1 / -1

Copying and pasting this from one of OP's comments above, which you seem not to have seen.

Host Jake Tapper asked, “The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week of February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16th, almost a month later. Why?”

Fauci said, “As I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OFTEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS TAKEN. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS: WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW."

This is what was said right before Fauci started talking about woulda, shoulda, coulda stuff, and it sounds like he's suggesting that he and/or other experts told Trump to take other mitigating measures sooner, despite the fact that, in March, he was still telling "healthy" people to go on cruises.

It seems to me like he's trying to say that he/they did make early recommendations that weren't taken by Trump (even though his earlier public statements contradict this), and that's why "we are where we are right now." But it doesn't even matter what Fauci really meant. It doesn't matter if this was NOT one of the times in which the experts' recommendations were not taken, and it doesn't matter that, after indeed suggesting that some of the experts' early recommendations were not taken, Fauci was more truthful talking in terms of suppositions made in hindsight. It doesn't matter because Fauci KNOWS how the leftist media is, and he still gave them a sound bite they wanted and can & will use against Trump without any clarification by Fauci.

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BoughtByBloomberg 1 point ago +2 / -1

Before that.

"I think that is an unfair comparison. In south korea they had the ability to shut it down completely, in a way we may not have been able to do in this country."

Mostly because you'd have a bunch of freedom loving Americans shooting their way out of a mandatory quarantine imposed like they did in China.

They twisted the president saying "I want people to have hope" into "Trump peddles false hope in time of crisis".

Fauci could have literally come out and said "There was absolutely nothing we could have done better with the information we had" and they'd have written it up as "Fauci believes if the Trump administration had sought better information early on lives could have been saved."

The sound bite DOESN'T MATTER to them. They will twist it REGARDLESS!

The man is a doctor and I know this is how doctors are. They won't lie and say "no we couldn't have saved more lives by acting sooner" because that is false. A December lockdown would have likely left the entire US completely unscathed outside of the airline industry.

That said he gave multiple sound bites. Ones favorable to Trump and those the media can twist (which is all of them).

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leing15 0 points ago +1 / -1

Fauci could have literally come out and said "There was absolutely nothing we could have done better with the information we had" and they'd have written it up as "Fauci believes if the Trump administration had sought better information early on lives could have been saved."

Exactly, Fauci could have been clear, but even knowing that he would be misquoted and misinterpreted even if he made it clear that Trump took mitigating measures (such as blocking travel to/from China) earlier than the WHO and U.S. experts (including him) thought to be necessary, and that Trump did what he (Fauci) and other experts recommended, when they recommended it, and did all that was possible, as soon as new mitigating measures became necessary (and WE could quote him when Dems & the fake news hit Trump); Fauci deliberately made it a lot easier for the fake news to falsely accuse Trump because, now, the fake news can just QUOTE Fauci actually saying:

"WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OFTEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS TAKEN. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS: WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW."

The fact that Dems and the fake news LIE and DISTORT what people say to make it be against Trump, is NO justification for anyone to actually give an unadulterated quote that they can use against Trump, especially if it's a false or inaccurate statement.

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BoughtByBloomberg 1 point ago +2 / -1

My point is that ANY quote you give is a quote that can be used against Trump.

They literally invent quotes like the fact the intelligence community briefed him about the virus in November from "unnamed sources". Intel chiefs came out and literally said "this is fake news" and they ran it AGAIN this week! They don't give a fuck they are DNC operatives!

What I see is a visibly annoyed Fauci who isn't used to the media constantly angling for an attack line on Trump. Could he have done better? 100% agree. If that was me I'd have told Tapper that if we should have used Ligma early on and then gotten his show an FCC fine.

But he did fine and emphasized that comparing the US and True Korea is a fallacy. That hindsight is 20-20 but pointless to dwell on. That the president is responding properly. I'll take that as good enough out of a doctor who sounds like he's smoked a pack a day.

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leing15 1 point ago +1 / -0

My point is that ANY quote you give is a quote that can be used against Trump.

I agree, but that's exactly why anyone on Trump's side doesn't need to give the Dems and the fake news a quote that legitimately sounds anti-Trump all on its own, and I don't doubt Fauci did it on purpose.

He either LIES about his advice to Trump, or at least about the timing of his advice, to try to cover his ass, or he does it to help take Trump down. Whatever the reason, the fact is that, according to his public statements, he either lied to the American people (and possibly to Trump) before, or he is lying now.

Also, Dr. Fauci provided false but damaging sound bites when being interviewed by Al Sharpton on MSNBC, as I commented about before, by saying that, in mid January, he was already warning Trump that it was "CLEAR" that the coronavirus would be a "major problem." Anyone who is aware of Fauci's comments up to at least March 9th knows that this is a LIE.

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BoughtByBloomberg 1 point ago +1 / -0

We've seen Trump deal with those types before. They were isolated and fired. Dude has a small circle surrounded by swamp creatures. Democrats holding constant investigations over his head with New York Democrats helping them out.

If Fauci had been this way I'm sure he'd be moving to fire him. I've yet to hear Trump go after Fauci directly, only after the fake news trying to spin things.

Either way I don't really care about the sound bites cause we got Joe Biden on tape and Pelosi on tape saying "Go and visit China town!"

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leing15 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know all of that.

I already said that I agree with you that the media will ignore or twist any statement favorable to Trump, the same way that they will ignore anything damaging to Biden (or any DemocRAT) whether Biden said it himself or someone else said something about him. This, however, doesn't mean that actual damaging (even when false) statements, especially from a respected figure who pretends to be non-partisan (even when he/she IS partisan), aren't specially useful to the Dems and their media.

We know what DemocRATS were saying until late February and even into March, but the Dems and their leftard media won't be bringing that up at all, the same way that Fauci doesn't bring up that, if not all, at least some DemocRATS in congress (as well as some Republicans) were warned, at the latest, some time in the first 10 days or so of February, but did NOTHING (besides a few of them doing some "insider trading"), and on top of that, DemocRATS and their media criticized everything Trump had been doing since January to fight coronavirus, while ALL they focused on was to impeach Trump.

The Dems and their media will be showing normies the clips of Fauci saying that "we are where we are" because Trump didn't take the expert's recommendations (which is a logical interpretation for what he said), and Fauci saying that he warned Trump of coronavirus being "major trouble" in mid January, and other things Fauci said that were unfavorable to Trump.

You can be sure Dems and their media will NOT be showing Fauci saying, on Jan 26, that coronavirus was a very low risk for Americans. No, they won't remind anyone of that because they don't want their audience to know that Fauci is a liar and no one should trust what he says.

A lot of normies do vote, and they do no research whatsoever. All they do is watch the evening news before their favorite, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. evening shows. And what they are going to see is NOT Fauci subtly praising Trump, the same way it won't be Biden, Pelosi, De Blasio, Fauci himself, or any DemocRAT telling their constituintes not to pay attention to coronavirus and go out to Chinatown, to the movies, or wherever else; what normies will see will be Fauci saying FALSE things that are damaging to Trump (and he said plenty of these damaging things).

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Scroon 4 points ago +5 / -1

I read the Fauci quotes in the article. He does not appear, to me, to be "backstabbing" Trump. He even says that there were a lot of factors and pushback at the time. He doesn't say it was a wrong decision.

I know it can be made to look bad, but he's giving a balanced statement that's stating a reasonable position. i.e. yeah, if you mitigate sooner then it probably would have greater effect.

All in all, stuff's going according to plan, and Fauci isn't saying Trump did anything wrong.

If Fauci starts opposing the admin's decisions, then that's when we string him up, and I'm sure Trump would be the first one to give him the boot.

Anything before that is creating the illusion of dissent where there isn't any.

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Jaqueso 4 points ago +5 / -1

Idk why everyone is jumping on Fauci. If you watch the clip in the link, he’s actually clearly opposed to this simpleminded question of “would it be better if we’d responded sooner”, and he explicitly says it’s an unfair question.

A lot of you are cherry picking sound bites and headlines in exactly the same way the leftist media does. Y’all are playing the enemy’s game, and it’s sad.

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Psilocybik 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Pure health standpoint"

Trump has to take every standpoint into account, then he makes his decision. Guarantee Schitt and Pelosi will impeach on this though, they only care about optics and POWER.

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IlxTheGreat 3 points ago +3 / -0

You listened to the bit right? SK had an outbreak in daegu and was able to shut it down, we didn't have that opportunity here. Come on, listen to the whole thing. There is a reason no President has fired the guy.

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CheckorHold 3 points ago +3 / -0

You think these morons would have learned that backstabbing the President doesn't do anything to help anyone. Not to mention Trump has so much ammunition on Fauci with those horrible models and the fact Fauci was against cutting off travel from China when Trump did it and it turned out to be one of the best moves to combating the virus. TL;DR, Fauci doesn't have much room to talk.

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OneOfMany_MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t think it is obvious that earlier mitigation means less deaths.

It just spreads out the infections over a longer period of time and keeps them from peaking at as high a point.

But as long as we don’t saturate our health care system’s ability to care for patients, there should be no excess deaths.

Is Fauci really trying to state that shutting down the country in late February would have contained the virus?

It wouldn’t have. It would only have flattened the curve more, and prolonged the duration.

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Fimbulwinter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fear-monger Fauci is a deep state fucktard.

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AndyCuomoIsAMobster 2 points ago +3 / -1

Saw some fag on Reddit make a great point, but he was too blindly dumb to see what Fauci was actually doing.

Guy criticized Fauci for telling Americans not to worry in January, and then later in March told Americans not to worry about masks. Guy said "this is the guy the President goes to for information, and he was wrong, and handled it wrong..."

Yeah, no shit. He is a DNC shill who was setting the President up for failure. Treasonous, and the sole reason this entire fucking leftist narrative exists. Fuck Fauci.

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Pedeberrycrunch 2 points ago +2 / -0

I thought Pence forbade the task force from appearing on CNN...

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NostalgicFuturist [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, what about that?

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BestTimeToBAlive 2 points ago +3 / -1

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Indianapede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fauci is deep state. Pressure to wreck the economy over something that comes along once a decade and did not need this extreme attention and measure.

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findthewarmspot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fauci is literally on tape during a NBC interview, in February, stating there’s nothing to worry about.

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Brendancs0 2 points ago +2 / -0

He should call him Out at a press conference

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AndyCuomoIsAMobster 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wouldn't be sad at all if things began happening to people like Schiff or Strozk, or McCabe, or Pelosi, or Feinstein....

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Batch77 2 points ago +2 / -0

Keep him on staff, bring in the other Dr that is rated above him. That way you can say, Fausi is lost and has no answers. So we had to bring in someone better than he, more learned. For the safety of the people.

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WuTangFlu 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right now, Pelosi is so drunk her blood is flammable. “Not again. Not again.”

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GodKingHarambe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fauci didn't receive the virus genome until like 1/24 or something like that. Just prior to this, the WHO was claiming no threat of animal-human transmission.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes! He wrote Hillary in 2016 that her speech made him cry too and that he and all others love her!

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Liberal_gun_guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Impeachment 2: Electric Boogaloos is absolutely coming to a TV near you, and it will be even twice as drawn out, baseless, and really just a big waste of everyone’s time. Fuck, man the dems used to be legit. Now they’re just hacks.

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CurbYourTDS 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's a set up, probably going to be used in the coming impeachment attempt.

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trump_rally 1 point ago +1 / -0

and now the very same Fauci keep rejecting HCQ for early treatment. blood on his hand.

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Hexagon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thought he was told not to go on CNN. He needs to be relieved of his post.

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doug2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Man I thought they would stoop no lower. In going to ask, if this is true it speaks to pre coordination, as with the last two coup attempts. Does this lend credence to the idea that maybe the deep state did release this through us troops? I won't put anything past them at this point. Or a joint china deepstate OP

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