In recent weeks there has been a ton of divisiveness about the shutdown and even over the threat posed by the virus itself. Part of being conservative/right wing means thinking for yourself, and I don’t expect all pedes to agree on those things. In fact it is healthy for us to debate them.
What we should all agree on though, is supporting President Trump. I shouldn’t have to say it; it is rule #1 for .win.
A good pede is vigilant and pays attention to what President Trump says. As such, you all should have been watching his press conferences over the past few weeks, or at least kept up with highlights. If so then you heard Trump make a sobering, solemn statement a few days ago: ”I’m gonna have to make a decision, and I only hope to God that it’s the right decision.” He also stated it would be the most difficult decision he would ever have to make.
This should make it crystal clear to everyone that the decision on when to ‘re-open’ the country is not an easy one. Trump is smarter than 99.9% of America, and because he’s the President he has access to more complete information than any of us. So if the decision on when to re-open is the most difficult one he has ever made, then not one person on this site knows what should be done and when.
Trump needs us to support him, no matter what course he decides upon. Whether you are dying to get back to work, or concerned about the number of people dying, all pedes need to stop doubting the President’s response to this crisis. We are where we are because Trump brought us here. He will help us all find a way through this if we maintain our trust and support.
I don't believe in blindly following anyone, even President Trump. But your point is well made. He has earned our trust and respect by everything he has done so far. I think we own him the benefit of the doubt, and we should assume he is doing what is objectively best for the country, based on his intelligence, information/data and his proven love and concern for America and Americans.
I agree with that 100%. Of course I wouldn’t follow Trump, or any politician, over a cliff. But he has earned my trust and then some.
“Trump is smarter than 99.9% of America” and 100% of people calling themselves journalists.
The worst aviation accident in world history was ultimately caused by those who didn't question the actions of a highly experienced superior officer. Do not confuse genuine concern and caution of a situation with someones support of an individual. You can do both at the same time. President Trump is still a human being, not a god.
When Trump gives me reason to doubt him, I will. Until then he gets my full support on issues which don’t have a clear answer - such as the current crisis.
You are the same type of shill who says we have to do whatever dr fauxi recommends because hes an "expert."
Get over your hubris. Trump IS the best decision maker I've ever seen and hes been proven right over and over again.
He's earned a bit of trust on these difficult decisions.
Besides, if you want to stay locked inside nobody is going to force you to come out (as long as you keep paying your rent of course).
What!? You're reading something into my remark that's simply not there. I am NOT listening to Dr. Doom. I'm listening to Trump and I DO trust him. Wow, I didn't know throwing out concerns and questions is now considered anti-Trump. Yikes.
Good to hear, I apologize if my tone wasn't "nice." I've been at it with marxists and communists all day and your comment echoed some of their talking points, like "Trump is going to make the wrong decisions."
It's fine to question what Trump does, but I know he has good reasons for it and questioning over and over again after a decision has been made starts to look like RESISTANCE to me. And I'm not saying you were doing that here.
Cheers.
No worries. I understand it can be hard to get a read on people through text.
How the hell do you believe those things simultaneously without hemorrhaging to death from cognitive dissonance?
Fauci is one of many experts whose opinion Trump considers. If you were really a Trump supporter you would know that, because he said it himself multiple times in the press conferences.
If you think Trump is the best decision maker, why do you doubt his decision to put trust in Fauci? Why do you doubt his decisions regarding the lockdown?
Ahh, the "no true scotsman" mixed with a strawman and an ad hominem. Looks like I just got the trifecta. Its almost too juvenile to respond too.
Anyways, I agree that trump should listen to experts, but I disagree that trump trusts fauxi 100%. And I just said the same thing as you, that trump will make the right decision based on a clearer understanding of ALL the information.
Try to hit me with a double strawman next time. Dont go easy on me.
Also, I wasn't even responding to your post dumbass, I was responding to the same person you responded too.
Notice the offset text now that I've responded to you, if you need any more lessons on how forum posts work I'm gonna have to start charging you.
Maybe I wasn't as clear as I thought.
Trump obviously trusts Facui's expert opinion. He trusts many different people for their expert opinions. That does not mean he does whatever they say - it means he considers their opinion as he forms his own. He said all this just the other day.
There are people here saying Fauci is some kind of deep state operative who has Trump under a spell. That's ludicrous to anyone who knows that Trump would see right through that shit in half a second. The fact that Trump has kept Fauci around is testament to his credibility.
I know how a forum works. Your original comment was nonsense and that's what I responded to. Nice hypocrisy there - opening with calling me juvenile, then closing with that petulance.
Hear, hear!
Thank you for the gentle reminder. When you're right you are right.
Been reading some Alinksy, I see.
Target those of us who dare call out your shill brigade. Basic bitch tactics like that won't work here.
This isn’t your town hall. It is a place for Trump supporters.
Did you misunderstand?
Trump supporters only. Shills GTFO. And take your vote partner with you.
My main goal is getting the wall built. To me Trump is the best man for that job. But the goal is the wall, not Trump. Anything that gets in the way of the wall is something I oppose.
Seems like an unreasonably singular focus to me, but ok.
All other problems can be fixed later on. We fix this now or never.
The wall is a means to an end. It is part of a solution to larger problems such as terrorism, drug/human trafficking, and illegals infected with the CCP flu.
Those are minor issues compared to quality of life. When you have third world culture you have third world quality.
Yeah...we’re not on the same page.
This rings especially true if this is a bio weapon.
Or they are r/politics shills trying to stir shit up. Or they are Chicom shills trying to trick Americans into ignoring Trump's guidelines so that more people die.
Sometimes it's idiocy, sometimes it's malice.
I haven't been in nearly as much as I'd like to have been over the triduum, but has there really been that much concern trolling going on? If so, SAD!
And I was actually just starting to think about how fracking great .win is because we can have debates with each other to make us all stronger, and neither side has to be afraid of being banned for wrong think, like they would have been on Reddit.
The best part of having our own site is that we can be free to disagree with each other. On Reddit since you are constantly flooded by shills and not-Trump people, you have to show a unified front, which hurts real discussion.
Here, we are free.
Here we are free to disagree on anything except support for Trump.
Also deport concern trolls and shills over "calls to violence," we are well within our 1st amendment rights to wish death on those who are trying to kill us
Hmm...
If you're talking about military violence against the CCP, then I'm on board.
Well said. Very well said.
Agree 100%.
And all the "the projections are wrong" and "Fauci and Birx are deep state shills" etc. do nothing to support Trump.
A lot of anti-Trump faggot shills from /politics concern trolling going on.
Their only goal is to keep .win from growing. They do it by filling the boards with anti-Trump divisive posts and vote-brigading comments.
Their favorite tactic is right out of Saul Alinsk'ys Rules for Radicals. They isolate and attack individual pedes, downvoting them to hell - FOR AGREEING WITH TRUMP!
Happens all day anymore.
Block and Deport.
Same talking points as always. Ask your neckbeard squad leader for a new script.
We are such a threat, the few who push back on it. Makes you wonder who are these hordes up in here, then, anyway? Real authoritarians fear the little pipsqueek resistance. The resistance to authoritarianism can be a virus too.
I don’t mind drawing them in. Keeps them from moving on to anyone else.
I’ve been noticing some patterns with comment votes, and I think you are exactly right.
They figured out a way to divert the rules. Bash Trump’s cabinet to sow doubt in the minds of weaker supporters.
I’ll say this, if more people would step up and combat their tactics by countering their posts, it wouldn’t be left to the few of us that are willing to be downvoted into oblivion.
An interesting thing I noticed, I have made comments in the past that were upvoted, but deleted quickly because they even slightly questioned Trump on a move he made. Now, however, I’ve had comments in defense of Trump downvoted to -50 and they stayed up. It’s an indicator, to me anyway, that the mods don’t approve of the tactics of the groups who are here to cause division and stir the pot.
We need to push back every time we see one of their posts with purposely twisted headlines formed from half-truths. I’ve been doing it as much as I can, but we need more Trump defenders to pipe up.
This here, we need moar back up out there, please!
Yes, the mods must be aware or at least suspicious of the downvote brigading that happens anytime someone voices support for Trump’s covid response.
I imagine they are pretty conflicted right now. This site is finally seeing the traffic it deserves, but half of it comes from anti-Trump shills.