Now that the winds have shifted in Trump's favor, this dude's tone has changed. He sounds like a Yes Man with no scruples or morals and will do literally ANYTHING for money, even funding bioweapon research.
But yeah, when this dude says Hillary's speech brought him to tears, he's sucking up for government grants because he expects Hillary to win.
You should always be skeptical of somebody you never heard of, suddenly becoming a household name. Because the msm makes them a household name, which should be reason enough to wonder why.
Sometimes he says things that are pretty smart and verifiable, but the man clearly has his own agenda besides doing the right thing for the country as a whole.
I don’t care what comes out of his mouth, he’s a deepstate Hillary ass kisser with a clear cut case of TDS.
I don’t care if he starts calling Trump daddy, I’ll always believe he has a malicious ulterior motive. He has to go
I firmly believe with all the CHINA -USA business travel through international airports this disease was in the USA in November 2019 which makes Fraudci a total fucking fraud with his 100% fake models
Yep, I keep convincing more people of this every day. The"increase" in cases that we saw was just a result of an exponential increase in testing. Once testing leveled off, cases began to drop. We were already on the declining part of the curve, but our governments will tell us that it was the lock downs that saved us
Before this hysteria really took off, I lamented that the worst part of this was going to be the adoration in hindsight. So lucky to have survived, what did you do to combat covid on the front lines, our hero the grocery clerk, etc.
This isn’t a generation’s Pearl Harbor or 9/11. That’s cheapening those events. This is a serious illness that had much more serious reaction that made everything worse. Like throwing water on a grease fire in a panic.
It is pretty sick to call this a generations ww2, etc. You mean to tell me there was a generation that had to stay home from school for three months prior to summer break? OMG the humanity lol. I think we probably all wanted this growing up. To be fair it has been hard on some students but to compare it to 9/11 is fucking ridiculous.
Cuomo is going to end up a hero in hindsight as well regardless of the fact that he was warned this could happen and did nothing at all to prevent it.
That being said, it was more than just misinformation China was dishing out. They made ALL SCIENTISTS stop releasing new data to the rest of the world on the virus, leaving the rest of the world in silence when we needed this information to make the tests.
Fuck China, Fuck Fauci, and fuck the media for defending both
You should always be skeptical of somebody you never heard of, suddenly becoming a household name. Because the msm makes them a household name, which should be reason enough to wonder why.
The MSM is desperately trying to push this narrative that Trump was late to respond, despite countless articles that show Fauci giving the OK for Americans to act per normal all the way up until March.
How are they going to be able to piece this together and point the finger at Trump without looking stupid? You can see this idiot reporter at the end essentially saying "Yeah ok.. but when?". They want an answer that, when spoken truthfully, simply doesn't support the narrative.
Someone is going to have to overtly lie here and I can nearly guarantee it won't go unnoticed.
Projection. The Lefts #1 go-to weapon to hand off to MSM, who accuses someone else of what the Left did, and they pass that lie off as the truth. Then MSM uses Alinsky Rule #10, to repeat that lie a million times, everywhere, till all their followers believe that it is the absolute truth, and that Trump did it, not the Left!!! Pelosi explained it on video, called it a wrap-up smear, then MSM denied the Dems ever did it. Said she was explaining what POTUS did to Obama when POTUS said Obama tapped Trump Tower, (which the Left denied but it was later proved true)! Left = Olympics-level liars!
Exactly!!! I had to look at the context to see what I said and what you said before. I think I said exactly what you said in a comment somewhere on another post! It's true!
they dont care about anyone dying.. for them they are using this is another opportunity to go after the President... you dont even see Biden anymore he's just laying low not doing shit while the Pravda media attacks his opponent and he doesn't have to say anything or show leadership during Corona... this foreshadows how much of a empty suit he'd be in the Oval Office... rarely seen.
Your are just going to tell the public what you want them to hear and that public will only remember what you told them last. THere are many who believe the average American is pretty smart but I have little evidence to make me believe that. It may have been true before Marxism and social media but very hard to believe that most people under the age of 30 have brains.
I know it’s Easter. But damn I am getting fed up with the bullshit that USA’s politicians keep shoveling on Trump. We could be exploring new adventures in the Great American Experiment... inventing new things, being a shining beacon in the world.
But no, our president (really the People of the USA) are constantly fighting rear guard plays from our own. fuck nut. elected officials.
I can’t be the only one that is getting fuckin pissed about these fuckin clowns in D.C.
You're not. My grandparents and great grandparents were angry about them too. Yet here they still are getting away with worse and worse. They do not fear us at all and that is a problem.
Not in November. It was first discovered in recognized by doctors as a new disease in December. Most likely it was released from the biolab around October in China but it took a few months to spread around with multiple mystery pneumonia cases all tracing back to a patient zero on the 17th of November (that's when he died so take the 2-4 week incubation time and you get mid-October)
Though keep in mind this is random civilian who died from this. China is obviously never going to show the corpse of the lab worker who died first from this shit. They burned that fucker immediately.
California likely had it's first case in early January imported from Wuhan. The spread just doesn't make sense based on a pre-January exposure. As we've seen in NYC this shit spread from an Iranian woman who entered the country I think January 10-15th, because NYC defied Iran travel bans.
Given how quickly it spread in that city California would be a triple disaster zone if it had been there since November.
95% of cases are mild. 3% of cases require hospitalization and 2% require ventilation. I know my stance isn't popular on here but I'm gonna have to ask your lot to put aside the healthy "fuck government" attitude and skepticism of the experts for a bit and just look at the numbers. 20'000 dead with a total confirmed infection rate of less than <1%, even with the fudging of numbers and media hysteria, is significant.
We'll probably learn later on that the disease in fact does not have a 10% Italy mortality rate. Nor a 3.4% US mortality rate, but closer to 1% mortality rate with all cases taken into account. 1% mortality WITH hospital care. Imagine if the hospitals were full? That's how you get 10% Italy situations. That's how Spain went full communists literally nationalizing hospitals and basically implementing UBI.
If all that doesn't convince you look at the spending. China is gearing up for a 7 trillion (30% of their GDP) stimulus package. Shit is serious and his them WAY harder than they want to admit.
But isn't there the possibility that many cases go unreported because they are mild? Hopefully by the end of this, the death rate goes down to flu levels, especially with hydroxychlorquine treatments. The thought of having to get a mandatory vaccine for this spooks me a bit.
Yes there is that possibility. The asshole contradicts himself and acts like he's doing "our lot" a favor and claims he has laser focus. He's just speculating from a stance of superiority.
Nice bit of seculation there based on no evidence special delievered for "our lot". It's interesting that on one hand you believe this virus spreads so quickly and yet despite the massive amounts of world travel it could not have been here a month later here. WHich is of course ridiculous and also goes against your theory of rate of spread and believe that 95% of cases are mild. I wouldn't have too much problem with what you have to say if you werent so condescending ("you lot") and weren't so keen to defend Fauci who clearly has an agenda and who has in fact been part of the problem.
WHich is of course ridiculous and also goes against your theory of rate of spread and believe that 95% of cases are mild.
The reason why is because you need a vector. Someone with the virus needs to travel from the region. Spread it. Incubate it and only then does it show up. It therefore needs to be widespread enough to affect the expat population of Wuhan for it to be transported to the US. It then also needs to be spread among the local population with a lag time till the first cases are noticed.
There was no wave of pneumonia cases in November. There were little dots on the map in China. In December China was still trying to cover it all up by isolating known cases. In January they went into full lockdown.
In short they required 3 months for the spread to reach critical mass.
November. December. January.
Now apply that same pattern to the US.
January. February. March.
Look at that it matches up!
But is we do November. December. January, hey that doesn't line up. December. January. February.... again doesn't line up with the rise in cases and hospitalizations that we see.
Let's walk over it again. China:
Patient zero in November. Doctors notice cases in December. Lockdown January.
Makes sense with an incubation time of between 2-4 weeks.
First cases in the US reported on January 21st imported from Wuhan and Iran. Doctors notice number of cases rising in February. Lockdown in March.
How do you know any of this unless you believe what the Chinese have told you? For some reason you just believe 3 months is the number because it supports your point. You talk about critical mass in 3 months. How do you know. Critical mass so far seems to be April which would make it 4 months so there goes your 3 month lineup theory. You don't actually know what China did or when
"Patient zero" was blocks from my house. You think he was really the first? I was sick with a mild flu before he was known to anybody back in December. Doesn't mean it was WuFlu but it has as much evidence as your theory, that is to say none. Anything based on what you heard from China must be discounted.
You can literally see the 3 month spread right there. You can even see China lying and fudging their numbers. Obviously China is fucking lying, but China can only hide what happens in CHINA. Not outside. Outside of China we see these graphs. So retroactively China's bullshit lies are not complete lies. Somewhere in November this started spreading.
Do I believe patient zero on 17 November in China is actually patient Zero? Of course not. They are trying to hide the fact it came from the biolab. A random shrimp seller is patient zero? Fuck you China. But whether patient zero got out in October or not is irrelevant to how the cases spread.
We see a lag time of slowly increasing cases every 2-4 weeks doubling and then shooting off exponentially. An estimated R0 of 1.5-2.5. Good news is new cases are DOWN! Deaths are DOWN! End of this week multiple states can reopen. Week after that everything but NYC can reopen. NYC can stay closed till end of May.
You are showing me a graph of confirmed cases, nothing more. That is wholly dependent upon testing rates and volumes.
I was talking about the so-callled patient zero in the US last January. There could be no confirmed cases until after that. Doesn't mean it wasn't already here and rampant. In fact your assumed incubation time is very off. It is not 2 to 4 weeks as we now know according to the CDC. We could easily have been infected within 5 days of someone from China coming here as they do in large number.
Not many. Like I always say I get where they are coming from. I too have a high skepticism level but I always keep laser focused on the real enemy.
THE FAKE NEWS!
Fauci is no Trump supporter. But Fauci is not a detractor either. He's a task force member the President has kept on since the start of it all. The media badly wants him to be a detractor. Don't let them shape your opinion.
What? This virus has a three month latency period that suddenly flips a switch and everyone and their brother get sick at the same time?
No, if it were here in November, then we'd of been going through this in the same time as China. Instead, we were two months behind. Which means that the virus was delayed in getting to America. Hence Trump's banning of china travel.
The virus had to stop over in Europe before finally hitching a ride here.
Good Fauci gets an upvote. Even a Clinton holdover can get things right once in a while.
Not so fast, on this same interview, before Fauci said this, he also said:
"We make a recommendation. often the recommendation is taken. sometimes it's not. but it is what it is: we are where we are right now."
The above is a great sound bite for the fake news to quote verbatim and claim that, according to Dr. Fauci, we only "are where we are right now" because Trump did NOT take the experts recommendations.
There is more too. That one was at CNN, but Fauci also did more damage talking to Al Sharpton on MSNBC.
He claims that in mid January, he was advising the administration that COVID-19 could be a "major problem" for the U.S., despite the fact that he wasn't even a fan of blocking travel from China on Jan 31st, when Trump did it regardless of not having much support for the decision even from his own camp.
This is the beginning of the video, uploaded by the Trump War Room channel, because Fauci says that the U.S. got “misinformation” from China on coronavirus, but they cut the video when Sharpton asks WHEN it was clear that the situation was worse than China was saying: https://youtu.be/timKpZM9G5o
This is the continuation of the video, which was the only part that MSNBC uploaded to its channel, since it's what sounds damaging to Trump because Fauci is not being honest and is saying that, in mid January, he warned Trump and the administration that the virus was a "major problem," which contradicts everything he publicly said at the time and later, including, for example, saying in late January, that the virus was of very low risk for the American people, and telling "healthy" people, on Mar 9th, that they could go on cruises: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgLLEfO8ZO8
Here is what Fauci was saying on Jan 26 (certainly after "mid January"):
"Government health agency official: Coronavirus 'isn't something the American public need to worry about" http://archive.vn/4nSpr
Here is a report of Fauci encouraging "healthy" people to go on cruises on March 9th, which was a contradiction to the State Department’s advice a day earlier, but Trump was still following Fauci's recommendations. It was 4 days later that Trump negotiated with major US cruise lines to voluntarily suspend outbound cruises immediately:
"Contradictions and questionable advice: How officials handled South Florida’s coronavirus crisis" http://archive.vn/mK0mw#selection-2617.0-2672.1
But he also said on the Daily NYT podcast on 2nd of April
“I think he [Trump] always understood the seriousness of it. Right now as the numbers are becoming crystal clear, he himself is articulating an awareness of that seriousness”
Fauci ain't the one to aim your arrows at. Aim them at the media unless the President relieves Fauci of his duties. The media is DESPERATE to turn Fauci into one of their attack pawns. They would love nothing more than to have him on their side.
Fauci couldn't just lie about Trump every time he opened his mouth (he might have been fired a long time ago if he did), he had to come up with some praise too, even if subtle praise, but Fauci did/does LIE. Whether it is to try and cover his ass or to help the Dems, I don't know, but the fact is that he lies.
He did it on MSNBC too, when being interviewed by Al Sharpton.
He said that, in mid January, it was clear that the coronavirus would be a "major problem," and he warned the administration (Trump) of that. This is a lie that contradicts his public statements at least up to March 9th, when he was still encouraging "healthy" people to go on cruises.
Backtracking fuck wad mother fucking cock gobbling cunt denying shit stain faggot boy. Fuck. You. Millions of Americans are now out of work you faggot faced fuck boy. Fuck. You.
Fruadci won't step down because he has been in charge of Grant $ handouts from NIH for 30 years and received the blowback $ from that............After 30 years of grant funding and no new cures for disease..........FRAUDCI IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!
Well in this interview he said he knew and advised Trump that coronavirus had become a serious problem in mid to late Janurary. This is why Trump is retweeting #firefauci and "Sorry Fake News, it’s all on tape. I banned China long before people spoke up."
That's like asking, doesn't this asshole have anything better to do than make shitloads of money for 5 minutes of his time in which he gets to talk shit about the man who defeated his side of beef girlfriend in the last election?
I’m amazed at all the homes I’m see since everyone is on camera - despite high net worth, these folks don’t have the best homes (at least not the inside) - seriously, I can wall-mount that TV in an hour and fix that cabling - gives me anxiety.
A lof of these people live in big cities. The downside is that it keeps you poor becuause rent is ridiculously high. Even in Seattle you can make six figures and still live in a shitty studio.
But even with a small place, you can fix-up the inside - high end material is usually per sq ft and the less sq ft the cheaper it is. I see your point though. Fauci has a nice house - but that TV with wires everywhere drives me nuts.
Well dumb ass in the world of accountabity you as the head of cdc should have been able to smell a lie, your critical thinking was either clouded by bias, you are stupid or you did it on purpose. I think it is all three.
Fauci is a Bill Gates vaccine peddler that is frothing at the mouth at the prospect of forcing every human in the world to be forced to take some vaccine crafted by population control advocates.
It is despicable that someone would be plotting against the President instead of helping deal with the China Flu. Does the President have any friends in government?
Fucking Fauci.
Such a little bitch. SOY BOY.
Dainty like a flower. Wilts like a weed in the sun.
Now that the winds have shifted in Trump's favor, this dude's tone has changed. He sounds like a Yes Man with no scruples or morals and will do literally ANYTHING for money, even funding bioweapon research.
But yeah, when this dude says Hillary's speech brought him to tears, he's sucking up for government grants because he expects Hillary to win.
Pence said not to go on CNN
He may want to get fired so they can use it to investigate/impeach POTUS like Comey.
Dems are playing with matches in a room full of gunpowder right now.
Mueller: Not my purview
Get fired to go on that sweet Corona gibs
This was planned prior to the last election. Some poor timelines have Killary as president.
He is a useless eater, and liar and snake oil salesman
I don't think anyone's political speech has ever brought me to tears.
Maybe I'm an asshole though.
Fauci was telling people to go on cruises March 9th https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#5a87e2962d4d
Haha that headline. Is he talking about cruise lines or going around town looking for sex.
Fauci on FEBRUARY 29!!! Deep State Weasel Bastard
https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1249464011105529856
Dude is milking this whole thing for as much airtime as possible
You should always be skeptical of somebody you never heard of, suddenly becoming a household name. Because the msm makes them a household name, which should be reason enough to wonder why.
Sometimes he says things that are pretty smart and verifiable, but the man clearly has his own agenda besides doing the right thing for the country as a whole.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letters-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/
I don't get WTF would be the point of doing that... Like why would any sane normal person wanna mismash viruses like that
I don’t care what comes out of his mouth, he’s a deepstate Hillary ass kisser with a clear cut case of TDS.
I don’t care if he starts calling Trump daddy, I’ll always believe he has a malicious ulterior motive. He has to go
I firmly believe with all the CHINA -USA business travel through international airports this disease was in the USA in November 2019 which makes Fraudci a total fucking fraud with his 100% fake models
Yep, I keep convincing more people of this every day. The"increase" in cases that we saw was just a result of an exponential increase in testing. Once testing leveled off, cases began to drop. We were already on the declining part of the curve, but our governments will tell us that it was the lock downs that saved us
Before this hysteria really took off, I lamented that the worst part of this was going to be the adoration in hindsight. So lucky to have survived, what did you do to combat covid on the front lines, our hero the grocery clerk, etc.
This isn’t a generation’s Pearl Harbor or 9/11. That’s cheapening those events. This is a serious illness that had much more serious reaction that made everything worse. Like throwing water on a grease fire in a panic.
It is pretty sick to call this a generations ww2, etc. You mean to tell me there was a generation that had to stay home from school for three months prior to summer break? OMG the humanity lol. I think we probably all wanted this growing up. To be fair it has been hard on some students but to compare it to 9/11 is fucking ridiculous.
Cuomo is going to end up a hero in hindsight as well regardless of the fact that he was warned this could happen and did nothing at all to prevent it.
Yes. How convenient.
Agreed.
That being said, it was more than just misinformation China was dishing out. They made ALL SCIENTISTS stop releasing new data to the rest of the world on the virus, leaving the rest of the world in silence when we needed this information to make the tests.
Fuck China, Fuck Fauci, and fuck the media for defending both
Plots to vaccinate the world over the weakest disease ever, blames China for helping,
Guilty leakers. https://youtu.be/ixYBNhbzp5E
You should always be skeptical of somebody you never heard of, suddenly becoming a household name. Because the msm makes them a household name, which should be reason enough to wonder why.
China is asshoe!
The original madman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0
TIL Fauci and Birx are Chinese.
I'd like to see more of this segment.
The MSM is desperately trying to push this narrative that Trump was late to respond, despite countless articles that show Fauci giving the OK for Americans to act per normal all the way up until March.
How are they going to be able to piece this together and point the finger at Trump without looking stupid? You can see this idiot reporter at the end essentially saying "Yeah ok.. but when?". They want an answer that, when spoken truthfully, simply doesn't support the narrative.
Someone is going to have to overtly lie here and I can nearly guarantee it won't go unnoticed.
Projection. The Lefts #1 go-to weapon to hand off to MSM, who accuses someone else of what the Left did, and they pass that lie off as the truth. Then MSM uses Alinsky Rule #10, to repeat that lie a million times, everywhere, till all their followers believe that it is the absolute truth, and that Trump did it, not the Left!!! Pelosi explained it on video, called it a wrap-up smear, then MSM denied the Dems ever did it. Said she was explaining what POTUS did to Obama when POTUS said Obama tapped Trump Tower, (which the Left denied but it was later proved true)! Left = Olympics-level liars!
and then you end up arguing with idiot leftists that quote the lying faggot MSM smugly at you
Exactly!!! I had to look at the context to see what I said and what you said before. I think I said exactly what you said in a comment somewhere on another post! It's true!
they dont care about anyone dying.. for them they are using this is another opportunity to go after the President... you dont even see Biden anymore he's just laying low not doing shit while the Pravda media attacks his opponent and he doesn't have to say anything or show leadership during Corona... this foreshadows how much of a empty suit he'd be in the Oval Office... rarely seen.
He's not laying low. He got lost in a parking garage at the airport. It's gonna be a few months before he stumbles his way out
Your are just going to tell the public what you want them to hear and that public will only remember what you told them last. THere are many who believe the average American is pretty smart but I have little evidence to make me believe that. It may have been true before Marxism and social media but very hard to believe that most people under the age of 30 have brains.
More commonly referred to as "lies".
Says the deep state sleeper who laundered the dirty info.
Is that that racist reverend guy? Sharpton? Is he doing the NBC news now? No way. NOooo freaking way.
I know it’s Easter. But damn I am getting fed up with the bullshit that USA’s politicians keep shoveling on Trump. We could be exploring new adventures in the Great American Experiment... inventing new things, being a shining beacon in the world.
But no, our president (really the People of the USA) are constantly fighting rear guard plays from our own. fuck nut. elected officials.
I can’t be the only one that is getting fuckin pissed about these fuckin clowns in D.C.
You're not. Buy em cheap and stack em deep.
Theft is evil.
You're not. My grandparents and great grandparents were angry about them too. Yet here they still are getting away with worse and worse. They do not fear us at all and that is a problem.
This is going to sound evil and disgusting especially on the rebirth of our Lord.
However, this virus targeted the wrong people. This should have gone biblical and target the wicked and evil.
It doesn't seem too evil if you consider Ephisians 6:12. These are exactly the people we should be fighting.
He was told by Pence to stay the fuck out of the media, thats grounds for dismissal. Fire his ass.
Good Fauci gets an upvote. Even a Clinton holdover can get things right once in a while.
LMAO Fraudci is a fucking retard. The virus was in the US in Nov/Dec 2019
Not in November. It was first discovered in recognized by doctors as a new disease in December. Most likely it was released from the biolab around October in China but it took a few months to spread around with multiple mystery pneumonia cases all tracing back to a patient zero on the 17th of November (that's when he died so take the 2-4 week incubation time and you get mid-October)
Though keep in mind this is random civilian who died from this. China is obviously never going to show the corpse of the lab worker who died first from this shit. They burned that fucker immediately.
California likely had it's first case in early January imported from Wuhan. The spread just doesn't make sense based on a pre-January exposure. As we've seen in NYC this shit spread from an Iranian woman who entered the country I think January 10-15th, because NYC defied Iran travel bans.
Given how quickly it spread in that city California would be a triple disaster zone if it had been there since November.
95% of cases are mild. 3% of cases require hospitalization and 2% require ventilation. I know my stance isn't popular on here but I'm gonna have to ask your lot to put aside the healthy "fuck government" attitude and skepticism of the experts for a bit and just look at the numbers. 20'000 dead with a total confirmed infection rate of less than <1%, even with the fudging of numbers and media hysteria, is significant.
We'll probably learn later on that the disease in fact does not have a 10% Italy mortality rate. Nor a 3.4% US mortality rate, but closer to 1% mortality rate with all cases taken into account. 1% mortality WITH hospital care. Imagine if the hospitals were full? That's how you get 10% Italy situations. That's how Spain went full communists literally nationalizing hospitals and basically implementing UBI.
If all that doesn't convince you look at the spending. China is gearing up for a 7 trillion (30% of their GDP) stimulus package. Shit is serious and his them WAY harder than they want to admit.
But isn't there the possibility that many cases go unreported because they are mild? Hopefully by the end of this, the death rate goes down to flu levels, especially with hydroxychlorquine treatments. The thought of having to get a mandatory vaccine for this spooks me a bit.
Yes there is that possibility. The asshole contradicts himself and acts like he's doing "our lot" a favor and claims he has laser focus. He's just speculating from a stance of superiority.
He also neglects to mention death tolls of previous flu seasons.
And uses a totally bogus incubation time. WuFLu is 5 days or thereabout, not 2 to 4 weeks. He's just throwing out numbers that support his pet theory.
Nice bit of seculation there based on no evidence special delievered for "our lot". It's interesting that on one hand you believe this virus spreads so quickly and yet despite the massive amounts of world travel it could not have been here a month later here. WHich is of course ridiculous and also goes against your theory of rate of spread and believe that 95% of cases are mild. I wouldn't have too much problem with what you have to say if you werent so condescending ("you lot") and weren't so keen to defend Fauci who clearly has an agenda and who has in fact been part of the problem.
The reason why is because you need a vector. Someone with the virus needs to travel from the region. Spread it. Incubate it and only then does it show up. It therefore needs to be widespread enough to affect the expat population of Wuhan for it to be transported to the US. It then also needs to be spread among the local population with a lag time till the first cases are noticed.
There was no wave of pneumonia cases in November. There were little dots on the map in China. In December China was still trying to cover it all up by isolating known cases. In January they went into full lockdown.
In short they required 3 months for the spread to reach critical mass.
November. December. January.
Now apply that same pattern to the US.
January. February. March.
Look at that it matches up!
But is we do November. December. January, hey that doesn't line up. December. January. February.... again doesn't line up with the rise in cases and hospitalizations that we see.
Let's walk over it again. China:
Patient zero in November. Doctors notice cases in December. Lockdown January.
Makes sense with an incubation time of between 2-4 weeks.
First cases in the US reported on January 21st imported from Wuhan and Iran. Doctors notice number of cases rising in February. Lockdown in March.
How do you know any of this unless you believe what the Chinese have told you? For some reason you just believe 3 months is the number because it supports your point. You talk about critical mass in 3 months. How do you know. Critical mass so far seems to be April which would make it 4 months so there goes your 3 month lineup theory. You don't actually know what China did or when
"Patient zero" was blocks from my house. You think he was really the first? I was sick with a mild flu before he was known to anybody back in December. Doesn't mean it was WuFlu but it has as much evidence as your theory, that is to say none. Anything based on what you heard from China must be discounted.
Here is a graph tool.
You can literally see the 3 month spread right there. You can even see China lying and fudging their numbers. Obviously China is fucking lying, but China can only hide what happens in CHINA. Not outside. Outside of China we see these graphs. So retroactively China's bullshit lies are not complete lies. Somewhere in November this started spreading.
Do I believe patient zero on 17 November in China is actually patient Zero? Of course not. They are trying to hide the fact it came from the biolab. A random shrimp seller is patient zero? Fuck you China. But whether patient zero got out in October or not is irrelevant to how the cases spread.
We see a lag time of slowly increasing cases every 2-4 weeks doubling and then shooting off exponentially. An estimated R0 of 1.5-2.5. Good news is new cases are DOWN! Deaths are DOWN! End of this week multiple states can reopen. Week after that everything but NYC can reopen. NYC can stay closed till end of May.
You are showing me a graph of confirmed cases, nothing more. That is wholly dependent upon testing rates and volumes.
I was talking about the so-callled patient zero in the US last January. There could be no confirmed cases until after that. Doesn't mean it wasn't already here and rampant. In fact your assumed incubation time is very off. It is not 2 to 4 weeks as we now know according to the CDC. We could easily have been infected within 5 days of someone from China coming here as they do in large number.
I'd love to know how many downvotes you got from the conspiratards for this refreshing bit of common sense.
Not many. Like I always say I get where they are coming from. I too have a high skepticism level but I always keep laser focused on the real enemy.
THE FAKE NEWS!
Fauci is no Trump supporter. But Fauci is not a detractor either. He's a task force member the President has kept on since the start of it all. The media badly wants him to be a detractor. Don't let them shape your opinion.
Go cry over a Hillary speech you fucking cuck.
Haha absolute faggot. Go second guess the president somewhere else you Shareblue deepcover fucktard.
Insults are fun.
Our mods need to get their shit together. The sub has been taken over by a chicom botnet.
Defend Fauci more.
Literally doesn't make any sense.
What? This virus has a three month latency period that suddenly flips a switch and everyone and their brother get sick at the same time?
No, if it were here in November, then we'd of been going through this in the same time as China. Instead, we were two months behind. Which means that the virus was delayed in getting to America. Hence Trump's banning of china travel.
The virus had to stop over in Europe before finally hitching a ride here.
Not so fast, on this same interview, before Fauci said this, he also said:
"We make a recommendation. often the recommendation is taken. sometimes it's not. but it is what it is: we are where we are right now."
The above is a great sound bite for the fake news to quote verbatim and claim that, according to Dr. Fauci, we only "are where we are right now" because Trump did NOT take the experts recommendations.
There is more too. That one was at CNN, but Fauci also did more damage talking to Al Sharpton on MSNBC.
He claims that in mid January, he was advising the administration that COVID-19 could be a "major problem" for the U.S., despite the fact that he wasn't even a fan of blocking travel from China on Jan 31st, when Trump did it regardless of not having much support for the decision even from his own camp.
This is the beginning of the video, uploaded by the Trump War Room channel, because Fauci says that the U.S. got “misinformation” from China on coronavirus, but they cut the video when Sharpton asks WHEN it was clear that the situation was worse than China was saying:
https://youtu.be/timKpZM9G5o
This is the continuation of the video, which was the only part that MSNBC uploaded to its channel, since it's what sounds damaging to Trump because Fauci is not being honest and is saying that, in mid January, he warned Trump and the administration that the virus was a "major problem," which contradicts everything he publicly said at the time and later, including, for example, saying in late January, that the virus was of very low risk for the American people, and telling "healthy" people, on Mar 9th, that they could go on cruises:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgLLEfO8ZO8
Here is what Fauci was saying on Jan 26 (certainly after "mid January"):
"Government health agency official: Coronavirus 'isn't something the American public need to worry about"
http://archive.vn/4nSpr
Here is a report of Fauci encouraging "healthy" people to go on cruises on March 9th, which was a contradiction to the State Department’s advice a day earlier, but Trump was still following Fauci's recommendations. It was 4 days later that Trump negotiated with major US cruise lines to voluntarily suspend outbound cruises immediately: "Contradictions and questionable advice: How officials handled South Florida’s coronavirus crisis"
http://archive.vn/mK0mw#selection-2617.0-2672.1
You forgot this one from February 29th.
But he also said on the Daily NYT podcast on 2nd of April
“I think he [Trump] always understood the seriousness of it. Right now as the numbers are becoming crystal clear, he himself is articulating an awareness of that seriousness”
Fauci ain't the one to aim your arrows at. Aim them at the media unless the President relieves Fauci of his duties. The media is DESPERATE to turn Fauci into one of their attack pawns. They would love nothing more than to have him on their side.
Fauci couldn't just lie about Trump every time he opened his mouth (he might have been fired a long time ago if he did), he had to come up with some praise too, even if subtle praise, but Fauci did/does LIE. Whether it is to try and cover his ass or to help the Dems, I don't know, but the fact is that he lies.
He did it on MSNBC too, when being interviewed by Al Sharpton.
He said that, in mid January, it was clear that the coronavirus would be a "major problem," and he warned the administration (Trump) of that. This is a lie that contradicts his public statements at least up to March 9th, when he was still encouraging "healthy" people to go on cruises.
Here is a comment I wrote that is mostly about what he said to Sharpton on MSNBC:
https://thedonald.win/p/FMcErhCa/x/c/11PVyOUV9t
Backtracking fuck wad mother fucking cock gobbling cunt denying shit stain faggot boy. Fuck. You. Millions of Americans are now out of work you faggot faced fuck boy. Fuck. You.
Fruadci won't step down because he has been in charge of Grant $ handouts from NIH for 30 years and received the blowback $ from that............After 30 years of grant funding and no new cures for disease..........FRAUDCI IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!
Well in this interview he said he knew and advised Trump that coronavirus had become a serious problem in mid to late Janurary. This is why Trump is retweeting #firefauci and "Sorry Fake News, it’s all on tape. I banned China long before people spoke up."
Al sharpton is on msnbc with his own segment now? WTF lmaooooo
The left hate religion but will take up with religious people as long as they are racist towards whites and say what they want them to say.
Might have even gotten Chinese herpes if he wasn't such a racist.
Those fucking virtue signalling fake news chyrons infuriate me
Al Sharpton hosts a show on MSNBC? Lol whew lawd. I'd rather staple the inside of my asshole
Fire this fraud... he has defied VP's orders to stay off of networks that do not carry the briefings. so FIRE HIM. he is a loser, and a LIAR.
That was gates info you were using, not chinas,.. you didn't use China "info" to create that sham of a model....that waS Gates info
Doesn't this asshole have things to do besides tv interviews?
That's like asking, doesn't this asshole have anything better to do than make shitloads of money for 5 minutes of his time in which he gets to talk shit about the man who defeated his side of beef girlfriend in the last election?
I’m amazed at all the homes I’m see since everyone is on camera - despite high net worth, these folks don’t have the best homes (at least not the inside) - seriously, I can wall-mount that TV in an hour and fix that cabling - gives me anxiety.
A lof of these people live in big cities. The downside is that it keeps you poor becuause rent is ridiculously high. Even in Seattle you can make six figures and still live in a shitty studio.
But even with a small place, you can fix-up the inside - high end material is usually per sq ft and the less sq ft the cheaper it is. I see your point though. Fauci has a nice house - but that TV with wires everywhere drives me nuts.
Just so much more efficient, syllable-use-wise, to say Fake News.
No shit! China lied and people died!
Now he's going to backpedal because he looks like the fraud that he is.
No shit Doc.
Now you're admitting that the Commies were wrong and lied to you.
Imagine my Shock.
No shit sherlock, I know you were butt buddies with Obama and you drink the same swill as the commies.
There's a reason for the saying, "Never Trust a commie and never trust a Capellan"
Moving on...let’s not be late then to re-open the country. How’s next week sound boys!?
He looks like Hoggle from the Labyrinth and just as trustworthy.
Lmfao kinda sounds like him too!
CCP is a fascist regime and they killed more people that Stalin and Hitler. We should always remember it.
Well dumb ass in the world of accountabity you as the head of cdc should have been able to smell a lie, your critical thinking was either clouded by bias, you are stupid or you did it on purpose. I think it is all three.
Dis-
Not mis-
Fauci is swamp
Sharpton: “Jiss when did diss uhcurr to you”
Talk NORMAL, dumbass.
China lied, Muslims explode, water is wet, drag queens rape kids at libraries, the sky is blue.
This guy needs to go.
Beta cuck soy boy
Fauci is a Bill Gates vaccine peddler that is frothing at the mouth at the prospect of forcing every human in the world to be forced to take some vaccine crafted by population control advocates.
It is despicable that someone would be plotting against the President instead of helping deal with the China Flu. Does the President have any friends in government?
The whole fucking world got misinformation from China. Their coverup cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars.
Fauxci sucks globalist cock.
Are you guys who downvoted people every time someone pointed out he was deepstate gonna apologize eventually? Nah probably not.