You are showing me a graph of confirmed cases, nothing more. That is wholly dependent upon testing rates and volumes.
I was talking about the so-callled patient zero in the US last January. There could be no confirmed cases until after that. Doesn't mean it wasn't already here and rampant. In fact your assumed incubation time is very off. It is not 2 to 4 weeks as we now know according to the CDC. We could easily have been infected within 5 days of someone from China coming here as they do in large number.
I'm sorry that I can't show you a graph of non-confirmed cases. Want a graph of unicorn sightings next?
Viruses spread. If there were cases earlier we would have seen the spread we see in March EARLIER. That sharp spike in confirmed cases would be in February is first exposure had happened in December.
We were testing way back in January everyone who came into the country. We sadly missed patient zero in Washington, California and NYC by a week. From there we can see the virus spread out. Multiply in cases and then we just shoot off once the viral threshold has been reached.
It is not 2 to 4 weeks as we now know according to the CDC
You are infectious during the whole incubation period. The end of the incubation period is when you NOTICE you are sick. The is why you see the first case at the end of January. Then it double. And again. And again. And again. As more people pass the 2-4 weeks required for incubation and seek help. Meanwhile they have spread it around.
And now again we see cases DROP! 2-4 weeks after we started the lockdowns. In short everyone who caught the virus and was incubating it for 2-4 weeks stayed home until they got sick and got tested.
I'm not asking you for unconfirmed cases. No I just need you to stick with facts instead of coming up with your own so that your theory works out. Also would be nice if you weren't a condescending prick too. You don't see any spread, you see the advent of testing.
We were testing way back in January everyone who came into the country.
Also not a fact.
As more people pass the 2-4 weeks required
Also not a fact. Stop saying it just because it fits your theory. Two weeks is the max and it's usually 2-5 days.
What data do we have? Confirmed cases. We cannot make fake confirmed cases. The majority of tests come back negative. Millions have been tested at this point. Confirming one thing. No. The virus is not spreading uncontrollably and less and less tests are coming back positive meaning the virus is under control.
We were testing way back in January everyone who came into the country.
Also not a fact.
Are you denying that the President designated 20 major airports as hubs for travel from China where mandatory testing of any flights out of the affected region took place in January?
Also not a fact. Stop saying it just because it fits your theory. Two weeks is the max and it's usually 2-5 days.
By day 12 the vast majority have noticed symptoms. 2-3 percent don't. They keep going until 4 weeks later. That 2-3 percent are the dangerous ones. They have time to CATCH it during their stay in China and transport it back without showing symptoms thus SLIPPING past those checks you said didn't exist despite them existing.
I never said those tests don't exist. When did I deny that? There was testing of body temperature early on which is hardly telling. And it was not everyone. We are in fact getting a lot of negatives back now but that also happens when a virus is brand new. I don't think that's the case here but it's worth noting.
So a person goes to China. They come back two weeks later but don't present until two weeks after that and voila, 3 month lag. I don't see it and using 2 to 4 weeks is valid in only a very small number. The truth is it is more like 2 to 5 days. To me that means it would have easily been here in November if we really believe China's timetable. This is why I think I had it before patient zero in the US was discovered.
You could be right but I don't really see hard evidence of that and when coupled with the attitude you had before and the fact that you keep insisting a 2-4 week incubation (which is quite misleading) I'm just not inclined to believe you.
You are showing me a graph of confirmed cases, nothing more. That is wholly dependent upon testing rates and volumes.
I was talking about the so-callled patient zero in the US last January. There could be no confirmed cases until after that. Doesn't mean it wasn't already here and rampant. In fact your assumed incubation time is very off. It is not 2 to 4 weeks as we now know according to the CDC. We could easily have been infected within 5 days of someone from China coming here as they do in large number.
I'm sorry that I can't show you a graph of non-confirmed cases. Want a graph of unicorn sightings next?
Viruses spread. If there were cases earlier we would have seen the spread we see in March EARLIER. That sharp spike in confirmed cases would be in February is first exposure had happened in December.
We were testing way back in January everyone who came into the country. We sadly missed patient zero in Washington, California and NYC by a week. From there we can see the virus spread out. Multiply in cases and then we just shoot off once the viral threshold has been reached.
You are infectious during the whole incubation period. The end of the incubation period is when you NOTICE you are sick. The is why you see the first case at the end of January. Then it double. And again. And again. And again. As more people pass the 2-4 weeks required for incubation and seek help. Meanwhile they have spread it around.
And now again we see cases DROP! 2-4 weeks after we started the lockdowns. In short everyone who caught the virus and was incubating it for 2-4 weeks stayed home until they got sick and got tested.
I'm not asking you for unconfirmed cases. No I just need you to stick with facts instead of coming up with your own so that your theory works out. Also would be nice if you weren't a condescending prick too. You don't see any spread, you see the advent of testing.
Also not a fact.
Also not a fact. Stop saying it just because it fits your theory. Two weeks is the max and it's usually 2-5 days.
What data do we have? Confirmed cases. We cannot make fake confirmed cases. The majority of tests come back negative. Millions have been tested at this point. Confirming one thing. No. The virus is not spreading uncontrollably and less and less tests are coming back positive meaning the virus is under control.
Are you denying that the President designated 20 major airports as hubs for travel from China where mandatory testing of any flights out of the affected region took place in January?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-incubation-period-symptoms-china-sars-length-days-time-a9326591.html
By day 12 the vast majority have noticed symptoms. 2-3 percent don't. They keep going until 4 weeks later. That 2-3 percent are the dangerous ones. They have time to CATCH it during their stay in China and transport it back without showing symptoms thus SLIPPING past those checks you said didn't exist despite them existing.
I never said those tests don't exist. When did I deny that? There was testing of body temperature early on which is hardly telling. And it was not everyone. We are in fact getting a lot of negatives back now but that also happens when a virus is brand new. I don't think that's the case here but it's worth noting.
So a person goes to China. They come back two weeks later but don't present until two weeks after that and voila, 3 month lag. I don't see it and using 2 to 4 weeks is valid in only a very small number. The truth is it is more like 2 to 5 days. To me that means it would have easily been here in November if we really believe China's timetable. This is why I think I had it before patient zero in the US was discovered.
You could be right but I don't really see hard evidence of that and when coupled with the attitude you had before and the fact that you keep insisting a 2-4 week incubation (which is quite misleading) I'm just not inclined to believe you.