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Sususu 1 point ago +3 / -2

just because liberal sounds like liberty doesn't mean it's so

It doesn't "sound like liberty" liberal literally comes from the word freedom.

Take that tired old gaslighting bullshit back to reddit.

You are the one accepting leftists gaslighting into what a liberal is.

Liberals have always been trash.

Watch the video before making more dumb uninformed opinions.

And no the partys never "flipped" ether.

Stop hallucinating arguments that no one made.

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GreatNW 0 points ago +2 / -2

Why are you surrendering the word Liberty to the Left? Liberals are not the same as Leftists.

I don't care about Trump's particular choice of words on the subject at any given moment but you're doing yourself a disservice by grouping all of the great American Liberals in history (ya know, like those who founded our glorious Nation) in with modern-day Leftists.

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GreatNW 0 points ago +1 / -1

Conservatives to who? Was The Revolution a liberal move or a conservative one at the time? No, not using present-day politically altered language.

The argument that the founding fathers were not by and large at the time liberal is just completely ignorant of history.