That's TRUMP'S check, bitches!!!! This is awesome. I actually do know some people who will have a momentary flash where they wonder if they will burn it instead just because of the signature.
They will then change their minds and use the money to buy hair dye, a used Vespa, and 20 pounds of raw organic almonds.
Look closely and you will notice a strong correlation between your friends/acquitances who have TDS, and those who are obsessed with and consumed by popular culture. (Hollywood, reality TV, etc.)
They’re all performing artists themselves. And not just as drama queens but legit in theater, dance etc. Very few conservative or libertarian or even informed ppl in the industry.
Romney talked about it but the idea was already being discussed within the administration... in fact the entire stimulus was sadly planned by the banks
I have so much compassion and regard for people dealing with mental issues like retardation ...that are naturally or involuntarily occurring. ...the ones that choose it as a lifestyle, not so much.
I enjoy the lighter traffic (when I need to drive at all), and treating myself to local take-out and coffee once in a while. Just trying to make the most of things.
My county just started mandatory face covering rules. Except for when I go shopping, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about them.
I'm going to pretend I didn't hear them at all; no letter in the mail, but I have to notify you by mail for everything?
Can't say that you've notified me.
Fuck your useless facist bullshit feel good policy that treads on my freedom of expression.
Oh it'll happen eventually. When it does, you want things like antibiotics, food and other survival essentials to be produced locally for the entire supplies chain, which is what Trump might be going for. Convert unreal fake value into real physical assets.
If all value in all financial instruments disappears, we'll all be fucked for a while, but the actual physical stuff like mining operations and factories and farmers with their tractors aren't going anywhere and if you have enough of them under unified supply chains, you can get through the crisis without going Mad Max apocalypse.
No because the same problem will just return. Defang the Fed, (or take it into control by the treasury, and out of the central banking cartel, like Trump has done) and monetize the national debt 1to1 with debt free greenbacks (and replace fed notes)
Look up Bill Still. He has the right ideas about this
I'm not saying that gold backing is a solution. I don't know the solution, it would probably have to be something complex and based on physical reality and time (like man-hours). Gold is only good as a lasting investment, and even then it is worse than buying land.
But I do know that you cannot have infinite cash. You cannot take out new debt to pay back previous debt forever and keep calling the ever growing bubble of debt "assets".
What sort of asset is it if it disappears immediately and in totality as soon as you say "I'm not paying it back"?
Debt-based currency is going to fail eventually, the debt "assets" will become larger than the amount of physical reality in existence to support them, and it will bring the current civilization down with it.
No, I was talking about an objective measure of value that is universal and independent of a government deciding on whatever metric they feel like. In this sense, even bitcoin is better because it is at least a function of something real like computing resources and power usage.
Fiat currency is purely a function of a government's whims and which change with time and policy and policy makers, meaning that the value of your savings in currency is also a function of the government's whims. That a government can sometimes try to use some objective measure is not a function of the currency, it is a function of a more sane government, which is just not something anyone can rely on.
Like a socialist government in the US can half the value of your dollars on a whim, in order to spread them around to the needy and fuck reality with its objective measures.
This is probably the stupidest fucking thing I’ll read all day.
Ain’t nothin’ that says a non-backed currency has to be debt based.
Where the fuck do you get this shit?
This is probably the stupidest fucking thing I’ll read all day.
Ain’t nothin’ in what you qouted saying anything about what you're ranting against.
It is a fact that the issue of debt base falls to shit if you stop paying the debt. What does that have to do with your rant? The op didn't say that any non-backed system has to be debt based.
Why did you take what he said, create a straw man, and argue the falsehood of the straw man that YOU created?
Yes, what you did WAS bullshit. Im glad you've seen your error. Whew, i can not tell you how worried i was that I'd have to spend time refuting a snow flakes reckless attacks on a fellow pede's opinion, that said fellow pede didn't even share.
Ceteris paribus, that's correct. But it's not ceteris paribus because as others already pointed out, they forced the shutdown. It's not like the economy failed without intervention.
Is it bad? Yes. Would it be better to not do helicopter money? No.
I am happy you are successful enough that you aren't. It sucks for you now but assuming you are still earning above the threshold I hope you continue in your success.
I just hadn't done my 2019 taxes yet, so I did them with a check request and removed my direct deposit. I did this when the stim packages was still being bounced around. Too late to do it that way I imagine.
Ah maybe, I know from the presser yesterday they were saying that if you did not receive it by next wednesday or something, I forget the day, that there would be an added form on the IRS site to check and correct your info, or even add direct deposit info.
It would be absolutely stunning, and would go down in the history books as one of the greatest trolls ever... along with the White Power hand gesture and piss yourself to protest.
You can cash it online and then burn it, pretending you didn't cash it.
We're going to need some clever 'pede to edit out the deposit endorsement for a "burn your TrumpBucks" video so the trend will be to show that it's unendorsed before it's burned.
I was thinking after I posted that some clever editing could probably actually use the check unendorsed. Do the parts that are required with an unendorsed check, cut scene, deposit check online, restart the shoot. A little post-processing clean-up and voila!
Seriously. Direct deposit will come faster so it's more practical, and there's no issue of the mail possibly getting lost. But man, I want to frame the gosh darn thing.
If you make over $99K, you don’t get a relief check. So if you live in someplace like California where 55% of you pay goes to taxes and housing costs are 3x normal, you are screwed.
Working hard to make a good living is a little depressing. You get no benefits from the government, but you have to pay for everyone else’s benefit. Government only works for the unmotivated and the super rich.
The same shit-ass Democrats who bitched about the 10k limit to SALT deductions in high-tax states had no problem with a $75k phase-out and people who make $100k or more getting NOTHING.
They never cared about "the Middle class". They only ever cared about poor people (those who make <$75k) and the rich (those making ~$500k, the highest tax bracket), and the rest of us are just garbage to them.
They don't want us investing, they don't want us starting businesses, they don't want us to do shit but CONSUME and be brainwashed so "hopefully" our kids are stupid jackasses who roll back into the working class instead of repeating our mistake of trying to get ahead and (shudder) join the ranks of the elite.
Nothing rich people hate more than nouveau riche people.
Same. Ridiculous bullshit. My company did their own internal stimulus package and I got left out of that, then got a pay cut. Just ignore the decade of education I put in to get here... Socialism sucks.
Daily Mail Is pushing this bullshit also, saying Checks are being held up cause Trump Wanted his signature on them. Ummmmmm Direct deposit has no signature
The ink used on those checks to sign Trump's name is estimated to cost 1/100th of a cent per check. It may not seem like much, but when you consider there are ~321 million Americans, that adds up to over $500 trillion dollars!!!
I didn't get anything for my son who is disabled that I've claimed his whole life... Unsure why, but wondering if it's because he is an adult now. He doesn't work, he can't. So I dunno, everything I've read had me under the belief he'd get at least $500. Anyone know?
The IRS is supposedly releasing a tracking tool on Friday. A where's my stimulus/problems with my stimulus/ etc. That might be the easiest way to see your calculation and possibly respond with questions
Plenty of people over on reddit are saying Trump ordered this, and claiming it's causing delays because "anonymous sources said it could cause a delay".
What's the truth, here? Just looking for red pill ammo for when I get into it with the tards. I mean, aside from the obvious "anonymous sources" "one guy made a claim so it must be true" stuff.
I get my refunds by snail mail. So should get my check the same way. Definitely going to remote deposit my check so I can keep the physical check. Maybe frame it?
I hope the direct deposits show up as "Trump bucks," too.
Absolute power move. I owed last year meaning the IRS probably doesn't have my direct deposit info, I'll wait the extra week or so to get a check with the signature.
That's TRUMP'S check, bitches!!!! This is awesome. I actually do know some people who will have a momentary flash where they wonder if they will burn it instead just because of the signature.
They will then change their minds and use the money to buy hair dye, a used Vespa, and 20 pounds of raw organic almonds.
I have some friends that feel these stimulus checks were Romney’s idea. Oh yeah, these ppl are hardcore progressives. I guess that’s his new fan base.
You mean, you have some acquaintances that are mentally retarded...
Exactly! Stupid, uninformed & suffering from TDS
Look closely and you will notice a strong correlation between your friends/acquitances who have TDS, and those who are obsessed with and consumed by popular culture. (Hollywood, reality TV, etc.)
They’re all performing artists themselves. And not just as drama queens but legit in theater, dance etc. Very few conservative or libertarian or even informed ppl in the industry.
Wonder why progressives support taxing productive people to wipe out student loan debt.
Romney talked about it but the idea was already being discussed within the administration... in fact the entire stimulus was sadly planned by the banks
I have so much compassion and regard for people dealing with mental issues like retardation ...that are naturally or involuntarily occurring. ...the ones that choose it as a lifestyle, not so much.
Sooo, they FEEL its Romneys idea, they dont THINK its Romneys idea?
They dont think at ALL.
The government shut me down so the governments paying me money. I'd rather they just didn't shut down my employer.
Ditto. Wish my business didn’t come to a screeching halt.
I enjoy the lighter traffic (when I need to drive at all), and treating myself to local take-out and coffee once in a while. Just trying to make the most of things.
My county just started mandatory face covering rules. Except for when I go shopping, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about them.
I'm going to pretend I didn't hear them at all; no letter in the mail, but I have to notify you by mail for everything? Can't say that you've notified me. Fuck your useless facist bullshit feel good policy that treads on my freedom of expression.
Honestly, I feel the same. It's been about two decades since I've had some time for myself with no commitments.
its sort of sad, really. Im pretty mad about it. I will never forget who caused this shit show.
In 1920, the dollar wasn't a debt-based fiat currency. The Jamaica accords wouldn't have been possible even in a nightmare.
Everything is debt-based now. The problem with debts is that you can never stop paying or the whole system goes tits up.
jubilee, baby
i'm rootin for it, at this point even people on zerohedge are seriously discussing this as a possibility, which is really weird for ZH.
Oh it'll happen eventually. When it does, you want things like antibiotics, food and other survival essentials to be produced locally for the entire supplies chain, which is what Trump might be going for. Convert unreal fake value into real physical assets.
If all value in all financial instruments disappears, we'll all be fucked for a while, but the actual physical stuff like mining operations and factories and farmers with their tractors aren't going anywhere and if you have enough of them under unified supply chains, you can get through the crisis without going Mad Max apocalypse.
No because the same problem will just return. Defang the Fed, (or take it into control by the treasury, and out of the central banking cartel, like Trump has done) and monetize the national debt 1to1 with debt free greenbacks (and replace fed notes)
Look up Bill Still. He has the right ideas about this
I'm not saying that gold backing is a solution. I don't know the solution, it would probably have to be something complex and based on physical reality and time (like man-hours). Gold is only good as a lasting investment, and even then it is worse than buying land.
But I do know that you cannot have infinite cash. You cannot take out new debt to pay back previous debt forever and keep calling the ever growing bubble of debt "assets".
What sort of asset is it if it disappears immediately and in totality as soon as you say "I'm not paying it back"?
Debt-based currency is going to fail eventually, the debt "assets" will become larger than the amount of physical reality in existence to support them, and it will bring the current civilization down with it.
No, I was talking about an objective measure of value that is universal and independent of a government deciding on whatever metric they feel like. In this sense, even bitcoin is better because it is at least a function of something real like computing resources and power usage.
Fiat currency is purely a function of a government's whims and which change with time and policy and policy makers, meaning that the value of your savings in currency is also a function of the government's whims. That a government can sometimes try to use some objective measure is not a function of the currency, it is a function of a more sane government, which is just not something anyone can rely on.
Like a socialist government in the US can half the value of your dollars on a whim, in order to spread them around to the needy and fuck reality with its objective measures.
Where the fuck do you get this shit?
This is probably the stupidest fucking thing I’ll read all day.
Ain’t nothin’ in what you qouted saying anything about what you're ranting against.
It is a fact that the issue of debt base falls to shit if you stop paying the debt. What does that have to do with your rant? The op didn't say that any non-backed system has to be debt based.
Why did you take what he said, create a straw man, and argue the falsehood of the straw man that YOU created?
Are you snopes? Because that's what Snopes does.
Yes, what you did WAS bullshit. Im glad you've seen your error. Whew, i can not tell you how worried i was that I'd have to spend time refuting a snow flakes reckless attacks on a fellow pede's opinion, that said fellow pede didn't even share.
Like i said, it's good that youve seen the light.
Ceteris paribus, that's correct. But it's not ceteris paribus because as others already pointed out, they forced the shutdown. It's not like the economy failed without intervention.
Is it bad? Yes. Would it be better to not do helicopter money? No.
The people who got direct deposit will have some stupid snarky shit to say on Twitter. Guarantee it
I wish I could go back and get check by mail just to get a Trump check. I’d cash it online and frame it.
Me too.
I wish there was an opt out of direct deposit for this one check, I would love to frame it to
I wish I could get the check...
I am happy you are successful enough that you aren't. It sucks for you now but assuming you are still earning above the threshold I hope you continue in your success.
I meant the physical check with GEOTUS' signature on it. I did not earn above the threshold in 2018.
I'm framing mine
Mobile deposit
Hahaha! Deposit mobile!
It will.
Deposit it then frame it then smart guy.. LOL
I changed my direct deposit to a check on purpose, I'll wait the extra time for a check cause I knew this was gonna happen!
I'm framing mine too, mobile deposit FTW.
How do you do this????
Edit: nvm, I just check and already received the $1200 direct deposit. :(
How? Bump
I just hadn't done my 2019 taxes yet, so I did them with a check request and removed my direct deposit. I did this when the stim packages was still being bounced around. Too late to do it that way I imagine.
I just found on the IRS website there may be a way to do it. I already got my direct deposit however so too late.
Ah maybe, I know from the presser yesterday they were saying that if you did not receive it by next wednesday or something, I forget the day, that there would be an added form on the IRS site to check and correct your info, or even add direct deposit info.
What's wrong with the Vespa?
OH NOTHING NOTHING AT ALL
Wtf is he doing?
Obviously going extremely fast.
I dont want to live on this planet anymore
TRUMP BUCKS, BITCHES!!!
PRAISE UP
I DONT KNOW WHAT WERE YELLING ABOUT!
MAGA
DIRECT TRUMPOSIT
Can't claim it's Obama's economy checks, that way.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! NOW EVERY PIECE OF SHIT THAT HATES HIM ARE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT HE GOT THEM THEIR CHECK!
Wonder how many will tear them up (none, they're all leeches)!
I hope the chans create a viral video of 'biden and bernie bros' burning their Trump checks.
It would be absolutely stunning, and would go down in the history books as one of the greatest trolls ever... along with the White Power hand gesture and piss yourself to protest.
You can cash it online and then burn it, pretending you didn't cash it.
We're going to need some clever 'pede to edit out the deposit endorsement for a "burn your TrumpBucks" video so the trend will be to show that it's unendorsed before it's burned.
Use an erasable pen. Cash it online. Erase the ink, and boom. "Unendorsed" check.
I was thinking after I posted that some clever editing could probably actually use the check unendorsed. Do the parts that are required with an unendorsed check, cut scene, deposit check online, restart the shoot. A little post-processing clean-up and voila!
Predicting this will be a big trend online.
Obama phone vs Trump check? That's a tough one. I think I'm going to need to phone a friend. Yup. That's a hard one to decide.
Ok nanoseconds up. I'm taking the check.
Man, now wish I could get a check, I wanna frame it.
No kidding!
"DAMN YOU, DIRECT DEPOSIT!"
Use your banks app. Take a picture and deposit it. Keep the check. Profit?
YOU GENIUS!!!!!! You saved my check! Ha! TY
You could probably buy one for a few grand
Seriously. Direct deposit will come faster so it's more practical, and there's no issue of the mail possibly getting lost. But man, I want to frame the gosh darn thing.
Definitely more practical.
First round of 80 million citizens receiving their paper check in the mail this week would cost 44 million in postage alone.
The IRS noted the cost is about $1 per paper check and 10 cents per DD.
Yeah, very true. Didn't even think about postage costs.
If you pay taxes, you get no check
If you make over $99K, you don’t get a relief check. So if you live in someplace like California where 55% of you pay goes to taxes and housing costs are 3x normal, you are screwed.
Working hard to make a good living is a little depressing. You get no benefits from the government, but you have to pay for everyone else’s benefit. Government only works for the unmotivated and the super rich.
The same shit-ass Democrats who bitched about the 10k limit to SALT deductions in high-tax states had no problem with a $75k phase-out and people who make $100k or more getting NOTHING.
They never cared about "the Middle class". They only ever cared about poor people (those who make <$75k) and the rich (those making ~$500k, the highest tax bracket), and the rest of us are just garbage to them.
They don't want us investing, they don't want us starting businesses, they don't want us to do shit but CONSUME and be brainwashed so "hopefully" our kids are stupid jackasses who roll back into the working class instead of repeating our mistake of trying to get ahead and (shudder) join the ranks of the elite.
Nothing rich people hate more than nouveau riche people.
THEY BELONG IN A MUSEUM!
I see you Ez
League of Blame! Fuck that game I hate it so much haha.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE SCOUTS CODE!
Oh shit Teemo entered the chat
Good...
THATS MY PRESIDENT
Trump sets the precedent as President. Fake news media can’t keep up, they are just pretenders.
I wish I could get a check signed by him. But i won’t get once cent of the 2 trillion dollars even though I pay a shit ton in taxes.
Same. Ridiculous bullshit. My company did their own internal stimulus package and I got left out of that, then got a pay cut. Just ignore the decade of education I put in to get here... Socialism sucks.
This is the odd result of having relief and stimulus rolled into one bill. I don't see why the 'stimulus' portion wouldn't go to all citizens equally.
Hooray! Best idea ever!
HELLS YEAH
WE NEED THIS MONEYS
Daaaaaaamn! And yet my direct deposit just say "IRS somethin somethin"
That would have been something to frame.
"Trump's winning is unprecedented. This is one for the record books."
I'm actually almost torn between framing it or depositing it.
Do both. Deposit with your phone, then frame it.
So sad i got direct deposit
let the tendies hit the floe
Who's your daddy?
Haha and they called him a "fake billionaire"
TRUMP BUCKS MUTHAFUCKAS
Daily Mail Is pushing this bullshit also, saying Checks are being held up cause Trump Wanted his signature on them. Ummmmmm Direct deposit has no signature
Just waiting for those morality preachers to rip up their checks #NOTMYSTIMULUS
Man knows how to play politics! Knows it needs to be HIS name on the checks!
Well now I'm tempted not to use it haha
In my head I replaced unprecedented with HUGE
Hit them in their tenders.
Okay now he's just fucking with them because he can 😂
-WaPo, NYT, CNN
ZILLION
Trump-BUX are official now!
Gee, if I get a check, I may frame it instead of cashing it! 😉
I can do both with mobile deposit.
I didn't get anything for my son who is disabled that I've claimed his whole life... Unsure why, but wondering if it's because he is an adult now. He doesn't work, he can't. So I dunno, everything I've read had me under the belief he'd get at least $500. Anyone know?
The IRS is supposedly releasing a tracking tool on Friday. A where's my stimulus/problems with my stimulus/ etc. That might be the easiest way to see your calculation and possibly respond with questions
This link might have some info for you....... and a click to update your personal info to check on payment as well... :)
https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/economic-impact-payments
I read they had to be 17 years old or under. He might be eligible for the full $1200 though.
My bank statement just said IRS.
"Treasury orders"
Plenty of people over on reddit are saying Trump ordered this, and claiming it's causing delays because "anonymous sources said it could cause a delay".
What's the truth, here? Just looking for red pill ammo for when I get into it with the tards. I mean, aside from the obvious "anonymous sources" "one guy made a claim so it must be true" stuff.
the madman did it
I get my refunds by snail mail. So should get my check the same way. Definitely going to remote deposit my check so I can keep the physical check. Maybe frame it?
I don't know about the states, but in Canada most major banks allow you to deposit online by taking a photo of the check.. (but I've never done it)
Haha check printer go brrrr
I remember when people were so excited to get money from "Obama's stash". They didn't have to worry about payin dey car, mah phone, payin mah rent.
roflmao! 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😁😎
I hope the direct deposits show up as "Trump bucks," too.
Absolute power move. I owed last year meaning the IRS probably doesn't have my direct deposit info, I'll wait the extra week or so to get a check with the signature.
They don't. SOURCE: muh bank account
The left seems to think that this will somehow delay the checks.
Like his signature isn't set as the memo field while every single check rolls through the printer
The troll is strong. I love that we can now point on the libs and say you cashed that check. He wasn't so bad you couldn't cash his check. LOL!!!
Liberals are losing their shit Bc they don’t get their free money for a few more days! Haha fuck them
Imagine the reaction if “not my president” crowd getting the check
Amazing