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40 & 45 (media.patriots.win)
posted ago by Doochebag ago by Doochebag +1367 / -0
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ViaAlpina 33 points ago +43 / -10

Reagan's long term legacy is a disaster.

The amnesty he signed turned California permanently blue and sped up the decline of several other states.

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Razeontherock 15 points ago +23 / -8

Now wait. That one time amnesty deal included funding for a border wall, or fence, or barrier. Hate the deal if you want but we were supposed to get SOMETHING. We didn't. Moral of the story: never trust a demonrat for anything except to lie.

A much bigger problem that no one ever mentions:

prior to Reagan you couldn't just show up to work, do your job, and expect to keep it. If everybody did that the company was likely to go under. You had to bust ass, work hard AND smart, and if everybody at the company did that you might not only stay afloat but do well. And you could expect to be promoted from within. It was reasonable to start at an entry level, be able to get married, buy a house, have a family, and even send your kids to College.

We had a middle class.

After Reagan we heard "this company only exists to make profit for the stockholders." Which means you are replaceable. Worthless. Promotion? Forget it.

Is this all Reagan's fault? It's worth a discussion. A lot of variables came into play, but none it would've happened without a "global economy" meaning we shipped our manufacturing base to China.

Corporate tax rates also came down a lot, which meant that employee raises and other investment was a lot more expensive. And philanthropy shrank. This was largely beyond Reagan's control, as there was competition where none had existed before.

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Flak 9 points ago +12 / -3

And who trusted them? Reagan. Even if he was super, still his fault.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss Reagan as "a weak leader." His later years, ok. Ds have TONS of blame, that's undeniable fact. Look at the deal for the one time amnesty

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +10 / -9

Ignore them, man. Kids that didn't live through it can't even understand what a different world it was.

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HuggableBear 8 points ago +8 / -0

You say that like it's an insult, Zoomer. Try reading a history book instead of a Wikipedia entry. I know, that requires work and an attention span longer than 12 seconds, but it's totally worth the effort, bro!

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keithkman 4 points ago +5 / -1

And banned full auto guns in May 1986. Sad!

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ARfreedom 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah, that whole thing about defeating communism is really a disaster... /s

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OhGonzo 20 points ago +20 / -0

Reagan did a lot of things right, but one of his biggest screw ups slowly undid all the work he did for the economy and American workers. Amnesty for illegals in exchange for an IOU was hilariously retarded.

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BadEjectorSpring 10 points ago +10 / -0

I wish people knew this. FOPA isn't cool at all

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IcedCovfefe 8 points ago +8 / -0

Damned shame about Bozo 44 because a .44 Magnum is a great firearm.

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123breadman 2 points ago +5 / -3

Just put the meme from above with 0bongo in place of Reagan,

I'm sure it will be more appreciated than Reagan.

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KekBotSupreme 6 points ago +6 / -0

the Fudd is strong with this post. LOL

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BruhMoment13 5 points ago +8 / -3

People in this comment section who disrespect Reagan like he was fucking Bill Clinton or something. How fucking spoiled are you, who do you think you fucking are. You shouldn't even have the right to associate yourself with Trump if you think Reagan was a bad president. This man was a fucking American hero. He single-handedly took on the Soviet Union, revived American Morale, & presided over one of the golden ages of American civilization. Everyone makes mistakes, including Trump. Just remember in a few decades when hopefully this nation is recovered to her full might, some 15 year-old twat is gonna call Trump a Neo-Con goon. This is exactly how the Reagan Gang people feel now. We mustn't criticize people for things they couldn't control. In Reagan's time, they didn't even know that SocJus idiots were gonna take over the nation. That wasn't his battle, he didn't know that the problem even existed at the time. He had to deal with the full power of an entire Superpower ran by advanced commies. That was his battle. Trump's battle is to deal with the culmination of every soviet, globalist, post-modernist plot to take down this nation. He has done good, but we should not pull ourselves into a cult of personality where Trump can do no wrong. If we do that we have lost, we have became the very thing we hate. We should love Trump because of what he has done for this nation, but we should not be afraid to criticize his wrong (the few that do exist). This will be up to you, but we must not lose our unit cohesion against the powers of marxism, political correctness, & the evils of the world at large. In this Trump, & Reagan are on the same boat. This is how we should treat it. God Speed, & stay safe.

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mikeroolz 5 points ago +5 / -0

Reagan was good with foreign policy, terrible with domestic policy. You can blame him for CA turning into a Dem stronghold, and now TX is even starting to inch towards blue.

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LeftistsAreInsane 4 points ago +5 / -1

I can understand people have some problems with Reagan. No one is perfect. But it is undeniable that Trump is the best president since Reagan. Trump is Reagan on steroids.

Reagan did a great job calling out the problems of big government ("Government isn't the solution to the problem. Government is the problem!"), cutting taxes, and standing up to communism without getting us into a major war. However, Reagan was generally bad on the 2nd Amendment both as a governor and as a president. He outright banned machine guns manufactured after 1986, and before that, he banned open carry here in California, which leaves us with almost no form of carrying (it's difficult to get a CCW permit).

Still, I do not consider Reagan a bad president in general. I consider him a good one, albeit with his own flaws.

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Drinkup4 3 points ago +3 / -0

Anyone who was alive through Carter understands how great Reagan was. The turnaround was immediate and incredible.

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Ameronaut 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm more of a William Henry Harrison kind of guy

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MisterClinton 4 points ago +5 / -1

All these people whining about Reagan's amnesty failed to properly assess the historical context. Same mistake as the Dems whining about slavery.

  1. It was signed during the second height of the cold war. The cold war was not only an economical and arms race, but also a cultural and moral conflict. The US sheltering people under prosecution and oppression while the USSR and its satellite states actively doing the prosecution is a pretty clear moral distinction.

  2. California started turning blue before the bill (1986). The 1984 presidential election had California at 57.5R-41.3D, lean blue compared to the national popular of 58.8R-40.6D. Undeniably, the amnesty is part of why California shifted blue over the years, but the 1965 immigration bill is a far more significant contributor. Another reason would probably be the growth of the tech sector.

  3. The 1986 bill was the first time knowingly hiring illegal aliens is made punishable by law. It also contained stronger border control measures.

  4. Geopolitical landscapes shifted significantly during the 1990s, both GHWB and Clinton administration failed to update immigration laws to reflect the changes.

Reagan certainly made mistakes. Allowing the Bush dynasty to take over the Republican party would be a hugely damaging one. However, the United States is the global superpower and a thriving nation. Russia is now a failing state going down a sad downward spiral, using natural resources as leverage to desperately maintain its declining international influence. And that, is Reagan's legacy.

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wncmtnman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm a Tyler man.

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Hckyhillbilly 2 points ago +2 / -0

45 just kicks a little harder.

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EnoughGunControl 2 points ago +5 / -3

How about 35? 🤔

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Drinkup4 5 points ago +6 / -1

Kennedy is why we have had a communist Cuba for 60 years. His screw ups allowed Castro to take power, then he let the rebels down at the Bay of Pigs. He also caved to the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile crisis.

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Razeontherock 8 points ago +9 / -1

He didn't divert nuclear war at the Cuban missile crisis?

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enoughdakka -1 points ago +1 / -2

The vermin got what they wanted out of it

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Razeontherock 0 points ago +1 / -1

You're referring to a commie Cuba? And commie tendrils in S America?

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GodzillaTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is this a common handgun caliber?

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Former_RM2 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't wait to see who's gonna be 357th.

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ThatOrcTsadok 1 point ago +2 / -1

gun guy here, love the .45 cant really fudd a 1911 and it's just one of those rounds that makes you go "hahaha round goes PING" when target shooting.

the .40 though I've had accuracy issues with every pcc and pistol that it was chambered for. had penetration issues in the line that I've had rounds stopped by plywood at 15 yards. and generally dont know why it was chosen over the 10mm. There is a reason it went from a department standard to being dropped in favor of 9mm.

the security company I work for right now, for their level 3 guards, does not have .40 as an accepted round for duty pistols, but 9mm, .357 sig, 5.7 (for some gott-damm reason), and .45 ACP/LC are all on the list.

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Mavdick96 1 point ago +2 / -1

.45>>>>.40. Hell, same with presidents. Trump is quite a bit better than Reagan.

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CommanderInCovfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

The 30th President is the greatest President this country has ever seen. Calvin Coolidge was perfect in virtually every way. Trump is impressing the hell out of me, though.

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DiscerningSword 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want a modernised .45 ammo for Pistol and Rifle. The .45 rifle bullet is going to be large enough to house a microcontroller and be remote controlled via fins and house a micro grenade... We need a new Battle rifle as Urban counter insurgency warfare fades and with it the need for lightweigt short-medium range rifles with limited munitions option. Larger bullets mean more options for anti armor, exploding, incenderary and longer ranges...

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nethyek 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wonder if Biden likes his Presidents like he likes his women.

If so, his favorite President would be Zachary Taylor.

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Wharf_Rat 0 points ago +3 / -3

Fuck Reagan. Terrible president

Granted amnesty to millions of illegals, greatly shifting the demographics of this country

Largest gun ban in history

Gave billions to corporations

Began to outsource all industry

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FormerBernienowTrump 0 points ago +2 / -2

i dont really like reagan, but trumps pretty cool

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HuggableBear 9 points ago +15 / -6

Reagan offered a one-time amnesty to less than 3 million people in return for a wall, increased border security, and legislation that would ensure it never had to happen again.

Reagan's biggest problem was that he expected Democrats to keep their promises.

Meanwhile he was busy destroying the largest communist nation in history by himself but yeah, it's cool, let's shit on Reagan for doing something that was very popular at the time and ignore all the things he accomplished.

Sick and fucking tired of people who didn't live through it acting like they have the first fucking clue what it was like back then. You think China is bad now? Imagine if China were open about their desire to take over the world and destroy us all. That's what the USSR was and Reagan had to take them down by himself because the media was just as bad as it is today but there was no alternative media to call them out.

How well do you think Trump would be doing right now without an internet? Without talk radio? Without any other sources of news except ABC, CBS, NBC, WaPo, and the NYT?

Try getting some fucking perspective in your lives. What Reagan accomplished was impossible. He did the impossible and he still gets no credit for it.

You probably think he was senile, too.

He is the cause of the illegal problem we have today. Deny it all you want, facts are facts.

Oh sure, sure, yeah, the Democrats who controlled the house through the entirety of his Presidency and the Globalist fuckwits that were int he White House for the next 30 fucking years had nothing to do with that. Yep, it was all Reagan.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +2 / -1

Cherry pick? You literally listed exactly one thing that I rebutted. Learn how to debate, dingbat.

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HuggableBear -1 points ago +1 / -2

Sorry to hear about your uncle, but you have absolutely no understanding of that situation if you think he ran like a bitch.

The world is bigger than your family.

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Gstreetshit -1 points ago +4 / -5

Reagan is extremely over rated

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Drinkup4 -3 points ago +6 / -9

The two best president of my lifetime and probably ever.

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