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Parkyr413 19 points ago +20 / -1

Far right would be anarchists who want 0 government but the average American doesn’t actually understand the political spectrum. Someone actually on the Far Right would want 0 policing and 0 government.

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Isolated_Patriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's a lost cause. They words have been redefined so much even the pedes here rarely understand this anymore.

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RuleoVicus 7 points ago +9 / -2

Yup. The true political spectrum is Anarchism on the far right, and Totalitarianism on the far left.

"Conservative" & "liberal" are meaningless- used to control thinking.

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Isolated_Patriot 9 points ago +9 / -0

Conservative should mean "Conserving the status quo" or "Restrained policy with the most limited changes if shown to be necessary" which we certainly don't want to do anymore.

And Liberal is supposed to mean "pro liberty and freedom", which isn't actually an opposite to conservatism in anyway, and does not in any way describe the 'left' of today. Even the 'left' understood this at one point creating the term "Progressives," which from their point of view means "Change everything for the sake of changing it" or "Leave nothing as it was."

It's so messed up at this point we need to burn it all down and start over.

That's why I consider myself a Fundamentalist. I believe in the Biblical principles the Constitution was founded on, and would like to change America back to the way it was a century ago. I will become a "conservative" if that is ever achieved.

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Parkyr413 2 points ago +2 / -0

I just think that the government should be the LAST possible solution to any problem. How many private companies have killed millions of people? I can’t really think of any, but would be happy to be exposed to one. How many governments? Scores.

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Wyndthough 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah. Its interesting bc the word is conservation but what we were conserving is/was a revolution. It's very interesting to look deep into.

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AenAllAin 0 points ago +1 / -1

The true political spectrum is Anarchism on the far right...

Nope! Both on the Left. Don't give a statement credibility just because the person is saying it on .WIN

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spezisthedevil 5 points ago +5 / -0

This exactly.

Left/Right in the US is not the same as it is for Euros, and the idea that WWII Germany's version of Socialism is somehow on the Right is just a lie created from communists that have taken over our higher education institutions. This short video is excellent at explaining what I mean:

https://youtu.be/rj0zBMq1EaE?t=30

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HiddenDekuScrub 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's what people miss. "Far Right" in American politics is zero government. The people begging to be policed have a foot on each side.

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BadManOrange 0 points ago +2 / -2

I doubt that 35% of republicans are anarchists.There's an aspect of fear in this whole thing. Even Republicans are buying into the fear mongering to the point that they're willing to buy into a "temporary" police state.

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Parkyr413 4 points ago +4 / -0

It’s not about Republicans/Democrats. The notion is that the far right of the political spectrum is anarchy. The far left is totalitarianism. All you did is prove my point by conflating the too. Just another failing of our education system. If I didn’t take AP US history and took gen pop US history in HS I wouldn’t have gotten this lesson. Hell, I even majored in Poli Sci in college and didn’t get this lesson. Think about that, in K-Bachelor’s Degree schooling I had one teacher, in an advanced placement course, who was able to convey this point. No wonder the average American doesn’t understand it.

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Wyndthough 4 points ago +4 / -0

AP history is where I initially learned it as well. Have since of course studied more.

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Parkyr413 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, my point was having to do it on my own as a failure of the education system. Hilariously, IIRC, this was an “off book” lesson where our teacher kind of went down a rabbit hole.

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Choomguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are many republicans that are happy making more on unemployment than working. They are all for the hysteria if it means another week off.

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AenAllAin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Far right would be anarchists who want 0 government

Like ANTIFA? Nope! Sorry, Anarchy IS NOT a Far-Right position. Alllllllllllllllllllll Leftists!

in fact, the only people who make that argument are Leftist shills trying to make 2nd Amendment supporters into extremists.

...so why are you saying it?

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Parkyr413 0 points ago +1 / -1

The textbook definition of the political spectrum has anarchy on the right and totalitarianism on the left. One group bastardizing the term does not change the meaning.

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AenAllAin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Textbook you say? perhaps by some liberal Leftist professor...

you are correct ...your group bastardizing the meaning does not actually change the definition. Conservatives are those pesky people who will not choose an extremist/unrealistic POV, but instead choose to exist in a state of reasonable balance where we know we need a government for some things but we also know we can't trust them.

Leftist by NATURE.are a non-linear coalition of disparate nonsense ideals that do not function (i.e. Communism, Socialism, Anarchy, Trans-, Islam, etc.) clustering together for support against a successful majority. This is for the most part de facto the case since as soon as that successful majority is overthrown by one of the nonsense groups, the whole thing collapses and eventually ceases to exist (vis-a-vis Venezuela).

And, by the way, one of the ear-marks of a Leftist/nonsense person or ideal is the delusion of theory over reality even to the point of self-destruction. For example, claiming Islamaphobia in the face of Islamic pedophile rape-gangs, or globalism and open borders despite Coronavirus and Chinese domination, or even say, a linear spectrum theory of politics in spite of clear evidence to the contrary and no evidence in support.

EDIT: I don't think you are a liberal or Democrat shill honestly. I do think you may have been exposed to a lot of their group think and maybe influenced some by it.

Defining who we are with a negative slant or spin is a standard Leftist tactic; e.g. citizen wants border protection and resents illegal immigrants taking jobs; he is concerned about his own prosperity and well-being and that of his friends and family. Leftist comes along ambushes him in the act of expressing that negativity and asserts that "Denying <Race X>[Mexican, Chinese, Arab, etc..] the same opportunity for a good life that you have is racist! So you are a racist!". Citizen is caught off guard and blindsided, even made to feel bad and question his own actions.

Truth: there is nothing wrong or bad about putting yourself and family first; or you friends, or your neighbors, or your city, or your state, or your country; it is quite sensible, Just, and even fair. It is unnatural, unfair, and unJust to expect you to pay for, provide for, enrich, support, or care for strangers (people you have no obligation to). But now because of deceitful practices and manipulation by Leftists you have a good person questioning themselves and what is right.

There is a clear line between helping yourself and harming others. This is why MAGA is not racist or bad in any way. Leftists are always trying to blur this line in any way they can; like grouping us with people we have no association with. Such as taking supporters of Constitutional Rights, Limited Government, and Individual Freedom and extrapolating that to a non-sense degree that becomes bad (otherwise known as Straw-Man Propaganda); such as, 1st Amendment (religion and speech) to bigotry and racism, 2nd Amendment (arms, empowerment,self-defense) to violent sedition, anarchy, and crime, Limited Government to No Government, Individual Freedom to Social Chaos.

Conservatives and Conservatism has no connection to Anarchy, Sedition, or Crime; never has. So why let them put that on you? Every Anarchist I have ever known is Left-leaning. It was the Southern Democrats that supported slavery and tried to secede over it. The "alt-right", neo-nazis, white-supremacists all align with the KKK and its Democrat roots. So what if the Left has reached a point where they no longer want the KKK in their coalition of malcontents! How exactly does that automatically mean they join us? or that we have to take them on the Right? We don't want them! We have never wanted them! We have nothing ideologically in common with them.

If you walk-the-walk, then talk-the-talk; don't be an advertisement for the Leftist POV and don't blame others when they bamboozle you into one of their re-definition schemes.