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handpeople 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yup, and this is my biggest argument against the MUH SCIENCE people. I am not an anti-vaccer, I believe many vaccines are very effective and safe, however

  1. I never want to be forced to get a vaccine
  2. I want the same right to collect damages caused by any harm from a vaccine as I have with any other pharmaceuticals
  3. I want it published what is in them
  4. I want incidents of side effects and deaths to be publicly available
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handpeople 8 points ago +8 / -0

I agree, we have gone terribly wrong with some of them, also I think its insanity to require 70+ vaccinations for children under 5. This is obviously a grifting scheme with state and local governments.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree, we have gone terrible wrong with some of them, also I think its insanity to require 70+ vaccinations for children under 5. This is obviously a grifting scheme with state and local governments.

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racer513 4 points ago +4 / -0

Like the military requiring the Anthrax vaccine. The military rule was get the shot or resign from the military. That shot seriously fucked up a lot of people

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SolidSnakeLp 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ex Marine here. I got the whole Anthrax vaccine set before Iraq. Joking around with my Doc, "haha I'm immune to anthrax!"

He replied, "actually the full workup only gives you an extra 10-45 mins of fighting before you die.

Wait what!? Don't even get me started on the H1N1 that they shoved down our throats a couple months after that virus came out. No testing just inject the whole Corps with it.

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CountryState_of_Mind 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, that is the explicit reason a whole separate vaccine damage court exists outside our normal judicial system.

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indigo_truther 3 points ago +3 / -0

yep, with the notable differences that you have to bring your lawyers against paid government lawyers & any awards come from tax dollars, not big pharma

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zerovaos 3 points ago +3 / -0

https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house-bill/5546

In 2011 the supreme court upheld the 1986 bill ruling vaccines were unavoidably unsafe.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

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Grady_Wilson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vaccines have been a great invention and are crucial to curbing or eliminating many horrible diseases, but since that law in 86, vaccines have turned into a weapon more than a medical procedure.

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indigo_truther 2 points ago +2 / -0

no vaccine is ever placebo tested, either, so there is really no actual determination on whether they do more harm than good

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powershellder 1 point ago +1 / -0

Partly true. Their “placebo” is just other vaccine ingredients instead of saline solution. That way they can still claim it was placebo testing.

Shot: lots of side effects

“Placebo shot”: lots of side effects

Conclusion: no increase in side effects from the placebo. Safe!

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indigo_truther 1 point ago +1 / -0

sometimes they only compare to the previous version of the vaccine!

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AnnieMm 2 points ago +2 / -0

I will NOT take a vaccine that Bill Gates, et. al., created. Period.