Sorry, but this is just lack of understanding of how virus research works.
This thing was 100% engineered, but not with malicious intent (at least not this particular virus).
When you are working on a vaccine, you want the vaccine to be applicable to as many possible strains of a virus as possible. You don't want to create a vaccine for a strain of the virus that mutates away two weeks later and your vaccine is useless. You want it to be broadly applicable.
In order to do that, these researchers create "superviruses" that have gene sequences from other highly contagious viruses and then create vaccines from that. In particular, species of Coronavirus are used because all the worst viruses of the last fwe decades have all been Corona (SARS, MERS, etc.). What was happening is that the virologists in Wuhan were trying to create a vaccine that was broadly applicable to all Corona. because there is no naturally occurring strain that is that transmissible, they created one with spike proteins that were much more aggressive than naturally occurring viruses.
Think of it like this: if you build a bunker to withstand a nuclear bomb, then you have nothing to worry about if someone starts shooting mortars at you.
But this only works if you keep the virus contained.
This sort of research has been banned in the us for many years, and for good reason. They are intentionally making viruses more dangerous to try to defend against the more dangerous version, but until they get that vaccine figured out, all they have done is create a supervirus.
That is most likely what happened here. They were working on a vaccine and their shitty containment broke, like everything made in China.
Now, there is a slim chance they were testing these spike proteins to see if they were effective enough to place onto other viruses, but the most likely scenario is not malice, but incompetence, especially since the proteins on this particular virus are only really extra effective on this virus and not others since they bind to lung receptors only and this virus is not airborne but fluid-borne. Most people that are being infected are not getting it from breathing but by skin contact and then touching their eyes, nose, and mouth. You have to basically be sneezed or coughed on directly to get it from someone else's breathing, but that cough or sneeze can settle on a surface and stay for days. This thing is being picked up mostly from touching, then going to the face, then being transferred into the bloodstream, then finally settling into the lungs where it can penetrate and replicate. That takes time, and if those proteins are added to other viruses it doesn't do much because other viruses would be dead by the time they finally reached your lungs. It only works with Corona because Coronas can survive outside of a host for a loooooooong time.
If they were looking to weaponize something, they would use spike proteins that could be received via the skin, or they would have tried to splice these proteins into something that is truly airborne.
Let's play a game. We'll ask "Is SARS-COV-2 a Chinese bioweapon?"
First, we'll ask a scientist. The scientist might say something like "Well there isn't an established scientific consensus. The possibility exists, but such viruses do naturally appear and that's the most probable explanation."
Next, we'll ask an intelligence officer. The intelligence officer will say "Without question. There's a clearly established pattern: China secretly bribed the head of Harvard's chemistry department, Dr. Lieber, and we assume other academics. Chinese agents were working for him disguised as grad students and we caught one of them smuggling virus specimens out of the country. We have caught other Chinese researchers smuggling pandemic-grade viruses both into and out of the United States. China lied about the outbreak, used their mouthpieces to falsely downplay the danger, and closed Wuhan off to internal Chinese travel while allowing foreign travel. They then refused our inspectors admission and destroyed all evidence while running active disinformation campaigns to manipulate world and U.S. opinion. Whether the virus was developed as a weapon or not, we have complete confidence that it was used as a weapon, just as we can be confident that a hammer found in a man's skull was so used."
We are and have been at war with China.
(BTW this is why nobody wants scientists to run their country)
Whether the virus was developed as a weapon or not, we have complete confidence that it was used as a weapon
This is your straw man. Good job hiding it.
No one is arguing that China was innocent and did nothing wrong. What's being argued is whether this was intended as a weapon and intentionally released. Which, despite all the conspiracy theories, there isn't actually any evidence of that being the case.
Did they respond in a way that did maximum damage to everyone except them? Absolutely.
But that's not the same as releasing an engineered bioweapon and you know it.
I am no conspiracy theory nut, but this is either a careless "oopsie" or a test run of some sort. Probably a variant without a "payload" if you will.
For example, wether on purpose or not, they tested the fences. "Next time" a communist totalitarian regime will quietly vaccinate a gross portion of their population, then let their bio weapon out. Wreaking ridiculous havoc. They won't have anyone to answer to, because they will have effectively crippled the world, and chalk it up to some "better management because they learned from covid, blah, blah, blah."
And who knows what kind of "payload" they can CRISPR into a genome, combined with the rapid spread capability and be highly contagious for and extended time before you are symptomatic. It's like a bio version of stuxnet.
If it wasn't intentional now it was being developed to be intentional later. Believe that
Weaponized by the deep state... a MSDNC Waiflu
Sorry, but this is just lack of understanding of how virus research works.
This thing was 100% engineered, but not with malicious intent (at least not this particular virus).
When you are working on a vaccine, you want the vaccine to be applicable to as many possible strains of a virus as possible. You don't want to create a vaccine for a strain of the virus that mutates away two weeks later and your vaccine is useless. You want it to be broadly applicable.
In order to do that, these researchers create "superviruses" that have gene sequences from other highly contagious viruses and then create vaccines from that. In particular, species of Coronavirus are used because all the worst viruses of the last fwe decades have all been Corona (SARS, MERS, etc.). What was happening is that the virologists in Wuhan were trying to create a vaccine that was broadly applicable to all Corona. because there is no naturally occurring strain that is that transmissible, they created one with spike proteins that were much more aggressive than naturally occurring viruses.
Think of it like this: if you build a bunker to withstand a nuclear bomb, then you have nothing to worry about if someone starts shooting mortars at you.
But this only works if you keep the virus contained.
This sort of research has been banned in the us for many years, and for good reason. They are intentionally making viruses more dangerous to try to defend against the more dangerous version, but until they get that vaccine figured out, all they have done is create a supervirus.
That is most likely what happened here. They were working on a vaccine and their shitty containment broke, like everything made in China.
Now, there is a slim chance they were testing these spike proteins to see if they were effective enough to place onto other viruses, but the most likely scenario is not malice, but incompetence, especially since the proteins on this particular virus are only really extra effective on this virus and not others since they bind to lung receptors only and this virus is not airborne but fluid-borne. Most people that are being infected are not getting it from breathing but by skin contact and then touching their eyes, nose, and mouth. You have to basically be sneezed or coughed on directly to get it from someone else's breathing, but that cough or sneeze can settle on a surface and stay for days. This thing is being picked up mostly from touching, then going to the face, then being transferred into the bloodstream, then finally settling into the lungs where it can penetrate and replicate. That takes time, and if those proteins are added to other viruses it doesn't do much because other viruses would be dead by the time they finally reached your lungs. It only works with Corona because Coronas can survive outside of a host for a loooooooong time.
If they were looking to weaponize something, they would use spike proteins that could be received via the skin, or they would have tried to splice these proteins into something that is truly airborne.
Let's play a game. We'll ask "Is SARS-COV-2 a Chinese bioweapon?"
First, we'll ask a scientist. The scientist might say something like "Well there isn't an established scientific consensus. The possibility exists, but such viruses do naturally appear and that's the most probable explanation."
Next, we'll ask an intelligence officer. The intelligence officer will say "Without question. There's a clearly established pattern: China secretly bribed the head of Harvard's chemistry department, Dr. Lieber, and we assume other academics. Chinese agents were working for him disguised as grad students and we caught one of them smuggling virus specimens out of the country. We have caught other Chinese researchers smuggling pandemic-grade viruses both into and out of the United States. China lied about the outbreak, used their mouthpieces to falsely downplay the danger, and closed Wuhan off to internal Chinese travel while allowing foreign travel. They then refused our inspectors admission and destroyed all evidence while running active disinformation campaigns to manipulate world and U.S. opinion. Whether the virus was developed as a weapon or not, we have complete confidence that it was used as a weapon, just as we can be confident that a hammer found in a man's skull was so used."
We are and have been at war with China.
(BTW this is why nobody wants scientists to run their country)
well put
This is your straw man. Good job hiding it.
No one is arguing that China was innocent and did nothing wrong. What's being argued is whether this was intended as a weapon and intentionally released. Which, despite all the conspiracy theories, there isn't actually any evidence of that being the case.
Did they respond in a way that did maximum damage to everyone except them? Absolutely.
But that's not the same as releasing an engineered bioweapon and you know it.
I get that you have a smarmy tone but I don't understand what you're actually trying to say. Could you please write this again more clearly?
I am no conspiracy theory nut, but this is either a careless "oopsie" or a test run of some sort. Probably a variant without a "payload" if you will.
For example, wether on purpose or not, they tested the fences. "Next time" a communist totalitarian regime will quietly vaccinate a gross portion of their population, then let their bio weapon out. Wreaking ridiculous havoc. They won't have anyone to answer to, because they will have effectively crippled the world, and chalk it up to some "better management because they learned from covid, blah, blah, blah."
And who knows what kind of "payload" they can CRISPR into a genome, combined with the rapid spread capability and be highly contagious for and extended time before you are symptomatic. It's like a bio version of stuxnet.
Maybe they vaccinated all of China but Wuhan/ Hubei. That’s why it supposedly didn’t spread around the country.