They're not migrants. These people are illegal aliens. Actual 'migrant workers' are a long-standing economic class in the US, who move from field to field and pick the harvest. Their rights are protected by law, since they have to move so frequently. I'm insulted and infuriated that leftists deliberately conflate the terms so as to afford rights to the people who don't deserve them and for thinking I'm so stupid that I can't tell the difference.
These people crossed the international border illegally, with the help of human smugglers. They were hidden in such a way that their presence in our country cannot be detected, and therefore, their earnings are completely their own.
These people are an affront to the taxpayers whose earnings are taxed; they are an insult to those who work to come here legally; and they are injurious to those who are citizens but can't find jobs because they can't afford to be paid what an illegal will take, and still pay the taxes that're due.
Yes, I understand the dipshits' excuses. But, I have a counter to that: sales tax?...so do all legal tourists who come to the States on vacation. Sales taxes are literally pocket change compared to income taxes, property taxes, FICA, health insurance, and so forth, which illegals don't pay. Yet they get to use our hospitals, schools, highways and infrastructure, etc., which puts wear & tear on these physical assets.
Tourists, on the other hand, are a net benefit because their presence is accounted for; they don't overwhelm the welfare system, ERs, and WIC program; they spend money (in addition to the sales tax they generate); and finally, they go home. Illegals live very frugally, buy junkers and drive without insurance (and cause accidents that they can't pay for), and then send all their income back home as remittances. This is millions not being spent in the US, so where is the sales tax benefit??
Car full of illegals caused an accident with a friend of mine. They all jump out run away. Cop told him was shit out of luck, take up with his insurance and best of luck.
I live within spitting distance of Houston, and I know dozens of people who've been through the same issue. One friend had been hit by a woman from Guatemala and the cops just let her go! He didn't even bother to ticket her even though she ran a red light and T-boned the car!
If everyone is required to have insurance, why do we even need coverage for uninsured motorists?? Why? Because we are being forced, through higher premiums, to subsidize illegals, who drive junkers and get into wrecks. If they weren't allowed to be here in the first place, I wouldn't have to pay so much for my insurance!
You should be able to go after the state and sue the state when this kind of shit happens.
Sue the FedGov for criminal negligence and the sanctuary shitholes under RICO. Of course at the end of the day it's the taxpayer who's going to have to pay up even though a majority of us want the existing laws enforced and the illegals to get out.
This is also literally the same reason why college commies are such harmful and dangerous elements to the society........ If they bikelock you they literally have 0 dollars to their name to compensate your permanent possible brain damage and inability to work even if you have all your court orders to garnish his wages (he skips between zero income and minimum wage).
That's why harmful elements in the society with nothing to lose and 0 decency to even ensure the world doesn't burn down should be prevented from existing at all costs.
I'm not sure if everyone has the same experience here, but I know 3 people with illegal alien DUI stories, two of them involving fatality! It's the kind of "coincidence" that makes you stop and think how big the problem might be.
Actual 'migrant workers' are a long-standing economic class in the US, who move from field to field and pick the harvest.
Which needs to stop as well. Too many Americans pushed to useless service sector jobs while fundamental parts of society like agriculture are left to rely on foreigners.
Believe it or not, the original migrant workers were black and white Americans, not hispanics from south of the border. Those who'd lost their sharecropping plots frequently went into migrant work, and did much better for themselves selling their labor.
Co-ops of farmers built little tenement towns for the migrants to use while the picking was going on, and they'd come back year after year. One of the rights they earned was to have schools at these little migrant towns, for their kids to get an education. And their kids' curriculum went with them. They also secured voting rights even though they weren't sedentary.
At the risk of sounding harsh, I have no problem with this. If someone knowingly came here illegally in the manner they’re describing, just drop them off on the border of their own country. If anything, they’re getting off easy.
Don’t throw them in jail, don’t detain them. Just put them on a bus, drive them to the border, and don’t even bother to wave goodbye as they get out.
“IT’S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY CAN’T AFFORD TO COME HERE LEGALLY!!”
It kind of is, and on top of that, it’s also not our fault or our problem. I don’t hate illegal immigrants. I do dislike people that think the law changes based on their feelings for it, however. If they want new immigration laws, argue for them and lobby for them and let everyone vote. If they don’t like that, they’re welcome to go live lawlessly in the countries most of these people come from.
Oh wait, they can’t, because they don’t allow illegal immigrants.
I have an outside the box theory on what we should do. Build the wall five feet inside us territory. Place migrants outside wall. They have not been deported if they are still on US soil. No paperwork needed.
The "sorry I'm too poor to obey the law" had never been a valid argument in court and of course it should never be, and the people that go to any other country illegally has already proved they have no respect for the law, if they have the chance they will break any other law not just to get any benefit but even just for the "fun" of doing it
I’ve lived in areas that seem to have a higher number of illegals due to proximity and relaxed standards. What you said rings close to my experience of them. I’ve never seen an illegal start a thriving business, employ people, give back to their community, or even get a nice hair cut. I have seen plenty of them get free health care, free schooling, free food, contract diabetes for which they get free treatment, and even get free college, which I didn’t believe was true until I looked into it. They actually treat them better at some colleges here than actual citizens, or those going through the immigration process the legal way. There are funds for giving illegals stimulus. I’d rather give them a bus ticket.
Most of the illegals I’ve seen or known through friends are either your street-corner strawberry salesman types, the “Imma gang bang kk thx” types, the “lay low and speak your home language forever in a small ethnic community doing off the books work” types, the guys that hang out at Home Depot looking for work, armies of unlicensed contractors that I know my landlord uses on his many buildings, the mom that can’t stop shitting out kids and getting odd benefits for despite nobody being a citizen, and the occasional studies major, if you can believe it.
They actually had a video from a college’s illegal alien program where one was complaining that he couldn’t go study abroad in Mexico for a semester to see his brother because they might not let him back into America because he’s illegal. He was majoring in Mexican studies. Tuition and all that’s free and paid for. I just laughed. “He’s complaining that if he goes back to Mexico for a semester to see his family and study at a Mexican University to advance his Mexican Studies degree, he might be forced to live in Mexico?” It was too much.
Well buddy you know what you just said are the kind of things that make probably most of the people here said "wait wtf, is this shit for real?" then I start scratching my head thinking in the bigger enigma, the mental gymnastics of the people that considers all to bizarre shit to be normal.
In my area it’s all seen as progressive. All they had to do was redefine illegal immigrants as ‘undocumented’, and then in reference to them, simply refer to them as immigrants. Then suddenly everyone’s acting like they’re just people that had their paperwork miss filed or fled burning countries with their families because their government was going to behead them or something. That describes zero people that I’m referring to, but that’s the general image that ‘undocumented’ creates over illegal immigrant, or just illegal. In NY, I think they actually made it illegal to call someone an illegal because it might hit them in the feels.
It’s like a continual search for a new civil rights moment. They ran out of races. Black people are too happy with Trump. They flooded the market with new genders. It’s funny that the final frontier for a new civil rights movement is now people that don’t have any civil rights because they are not citizens. This is largely because everybody’s had rights for many years now. And of course those people will vote for whoever lets them stay and gives them free shit.
In that light, you can see how people in my area not only think it’s normal, but something to fight for. They want their Martin Luther King moment and feel good points. As someone else said elsewhere, “Oh no! Somebody feels bad! Time to burn the constitution” is the general standpoint for all issues that come up. We’re also covered him hobos out here, and right now they’re putting them all up in hotels with free food. Like all liberal utopias, it’s a complete sham and mess.
Even among those coming legally, some sects, like Muslims, seem to quietly grow and fester until they outnumber everyone else and take over. I can’t recall a single country that let in a bunch of Muslims and had headlines like “Muslims of Sweden Cure Cancer and Make Positive Contributions to Society.” I know people from Muslim countries that came here legally and aren’t muslim, and they hate them more than anyone else for making them look bad.
I actually like legal immigrants. I’m okay taking the world’s A team for the US. Be the fucking Avengers. But most people in most countries are not the Avengers. Most other countries don’t even have half the moral decency found in even the worst US citizens. Beliefs and culture matter. If another culture is largely blowing each other up and saying they want to kill us, or seemingly just have incompatible values, maybe don’t let them live here. If I was looking for a roommate, I wouldn’t let someone in that I found actively at odds with everything I value. They can go somewhere else. We’re not the world’s day care or homeless shelter. If some mega rich type with a mansion wants them in, then they can personally adopt them and be their exclusive source of financing.
We’re a nation of immigrants, but we’re a nation of immigrants that all came here legally and abide by the law with compatible values with something to offer one another. What are middle eastern refugees going to offer us, innovative ways of making explosives? Sharia law? Spousal abuse? At least Pedro’s dropping them strawberries.
If these are legitimate loans, who here in america issues the loans to unknown persons in order to pay coyotes? What's the risk analysis behind this? Wouldn't this be fraud in order to get the loans? Without reading the article, the headline screams sensationalist BS
Loan sharks in their own countries in partnership with the coyotes give them money but they have to put something as guarantee, so they put their house or land and in a couple of years of slave work and stealing from the state they pay the debt.
This is all garbage illegal activity stacked on bad choices. I know the allure of american opportunity is great. But that doesn't entitle the world to it.
I'll harp on the adage of "just come here legally"
Rumor is Nancy is fighting to get these coyotes their own $1200 checks (up to 750,000 pesos) with an additional $500 for each kid (limit 10 per household).
If they're letting murderers out of prison, why not murder the murderers, then when you go to prison say "buh muh Corona!" and then they're forced to release you so you can do it some more?
Do we have to go across the border and jump back over as an illegal immigrant first? Cuz that's just a deal breaker for me
All this msm illegal alien sympathizing is going to backfire on them. Im guessing people are sick of the programming and are becoming increasingly fed up with these invaders
Reporting to ice all the illegal parents at my kids school would take a week. They are all on EBT and don't report their husbands who make good money. It makes me sick. I'm sad for the kids who we've had at birthday parties even though their parents don't speak English.
So these people have homes. They aren't being driven from their homes by the cartels. I mean, if they were, why are they hiring the coyotes, who are very likely to also be cartel members, to sneak them into the US?
They have homes, they should stay there.
I remember seeing pictures of some of the "migrants" before they left their country, and they were VERY WELL OFF. Nice homes, nice cars, nice iphones, nice clothes. All of a sudden they're "in danger" or "want a better life?"
Reminds me of the older days when breaking the law was the least of your worries. You owe gambling debt, default on your loans, or try to evade your obligations and you were met by the the underworld. Want to avoid all of that? Stay clean.
Like on the West Coast where you don't go to jail unless you steal more than 900 dollars worth of items. Why are they pushing for lawlessness now in current times?
"Coyotes," ie, murderous international crime syndicates who would happily rape and torture every single one of us and parade our severed heads around town on a pike.
As my father used to say, while rubbing thumb and fore finger together, "this is the world's smallest violin playing my heart bleeds purple piss for you"
Okay, let me get this straight. Vice is implying we're to feel sorry for migrants who break law to come here illegally because they put their homes up for collateral to pay a group they hired for services. (Illegal services, but the coyotes wouldn't be in business if there were no customers.)
So, what about these hardworking coyotes facing business decline due to Chinese virus...and losing more money from customers defaulting on their mortgage IOUs??? Law-breaking but hardworking coyotes deserve those houses more than those defaulting, law-breaking migrants who come here for US handouts. /s
I feel bad for anyone whose country is racked by crime and poverty and corruption. But their problems are not our problems and we have no obligation to take them in, especially in large numbers that overwhelm our economy.
I’m supposed to feel bad for people who want to illegally enter our country and reap the rewards our ancestors bled and died to earn for us, because they can’t pay back the loans they took out to give to drug cartels? LOL yeah get fucked
It pisses me off to no end how whenever you corner the left on illegal immigration and they're not a radical anti-American they pivot to "we shouldn't deport people already here! we have to disincentivize it!" and then any conceivable disincentivization that could ever apply to potential illegal immigrants they go all "OMG NO! THIS THING HAS TO BE STOPPED!"
Motherfucker do you believe anything you say?
This is literally a Vice article about something that disincentivizes illegal immigration with a negative framing. They are the party of open borders.
People have been programmed to demand open borders without even realizing that's what they are demanding.
They will tell you straight up they don't want open borders and then immediately turn around and argue against every single form of border control, and for allowing literally anyone who wants to enter the country and stay forever with no standards or requirements.
Then they go right back to acting shocked you would say they support open borders and accuse you of strawmanning them.
NPC programming is very real. They are expressing thoughts and ideas that aren't their own, that they clearly didn't think about.
I have no sympathy for those in this situation. If you want to come to my country then at least show that you respect our laws. If not, and you try to circumvent to enter illegally, then you must go back.
This sounds more like a cry to reopen the economy not begging for handouts which is surprising. Actions have consequences, you break laws and deal with bad people, often times bad things happen. You don't get a bail out for retardation.
They're not migrants. These people are illegal aliens. Actual 'migrant workers' are a long-standing economic class in the US, who move from field to field and pick the harvest. Their rights are protected by law, since they have to move so frequently. I'm insulted and infuriated that leftists deliberately conflate the terms so as to afford rights to the people who don't deserve them and for thinking I'm so stupid that I can't tell the difference.
These people crossed the international border illegally, with the help of human smugglers. They were hidden in such a way that their presence in our country cannot be detected, and therefore, their earnings are completely their own.
These people are an affront to the taxpayers whose earnings are taxed; they are an insult to those who work to come here legally; and they are injurious to those who are citizens but can't find jobs because they can't afford to be paid what an illegal will take, and still pay the taxes that're due.
BuT ThEY pAy SaLeS TaX!
Yes, I understand the dipshits' excuses. But, I have a counter to that: sales tax?...so do all legal tourists who come to the States on vacation. Sales taxes are literally pocket change compared to income taxes, property taxes, FICA, health insurance, and so forth, which illegals don't pay. Yet they get to use our hospitals, schools, highways and infrastructure, etc., which puts wear & tear on these physical assets.
Tourists, on the other hand, are a net benefit because their presence is accounted for; they don't overwhelm the welfare system, ERs, and WIC program; they spend money (in addition to the sales tax they generate); and finally, they go home. Illegals live very frugally, buy junkers and drive without insurance (and cause accidents that they can't pay for), and then send all their income back home as remittances. This is millions not being spent in the US, so where is the sales tax benefit??
Damn. This is so well thought out. Might just be a rant for you, but I haven't listened to anybody that phrased it so well in just two posts
Car full of illegals caused an accident with a friend of mine. They all jump out run away. Cop told him was shit out of luck, take up with his insurance and best of luck.
I live within spitting distance of Houston, and I know dozens of people who've been through the same issue. One friend had been hit by a woman from Guatemala and the cops just let her go! He didn't even bother to ticket her even though she ran a red light and T-boned the car!
If everyone is required to have insurance, why do we even need coverage for uninsured motorists?? Why? Because we are being forced, through higher premiums, to subsidize illegals, who drive junkers and get into wrecks. If they weren't allowed to be here in the first place, I wouldn't have to pay so much for my insurance!
This man understands.
Same deal with health insurance too.
Just saved all 3 of your comments to a "Best Comments" folder you make great points!
I've never been in an accident, never had a ticket, never filed a claim with my auto insurance.. yet my premiums go up and up and up every 6 months.
Because we're paying premiums for those "uninsured motorists".
And force them to pay with what? The crumpled up joint and 2 smashed dollars stuffed into their stained jeans?
You should be able to go after the state and sue the state when this kind of shit happens.
Problems like this would dry up REAL quick,
Sue the FedGov for criminal negligence and the sanctuary shitholes under RICO. Of course at the end of the day it's the taxpayer who's going to have to pay up even though a majority of us want the existing laws enforced and the illegals to get out.
This is also literally the same reason why college commies are such harmful and dangerous elements to the society........ If they bikelock you they literally have 0 dollars to their name to compensate your permanent possible brain damage and inability to work even if you have all your court orders to garnish his wages (he skips between zero income and minimum wage).
That's why harmful elements in the society with nothing to lose and 0 decency to even ensure the world doesn't burn down should be prevented from existing at all costs.
Make them pay with a pound of flesh, then.
If only there was some clue or sign that might tell us how these people would respect our laws.... Oh well, I'm stumped
Meanwhile if you did something similar, those same cops would be up your ass spending taxpayer resources to bust you.
I'm not sure if everyone has the same experience here, but I know 3 people with illegal alien DUI stories, two of them involving fatality! It's the kind of "coincidence" that makes you stop and think how big the problem might be.
How can they be "migrants" if they're putting their homes up for collateral? I don't think that's how "migrating" works.
Honestly they have NO RIGHTS
Which needs to stop as well. Too many Americans pushed to useless service sector jobs while fundamental parts of society like agriculture are left to rely on foreigners.
Believe it or not, the original migrant workers were black and white Americans, not hispanics from south of the border. Those who'd lost their sharecropping plots frequently went into migrant work, and did much better for themselves selling their labor.
Co-ops of farmers built little tenement towns for the migrants to use while the picking was going on, and they'd come back year after year. One of the rights they earned was to have schools at these little migrant towns, for their kids to get an education. And their kids' curriculum went with them. They also secured voting rights even though they weren't sedentary.
The original were, the ones now aren't. It could've still been a good option for a lot of Americans today if it weren't shifted off to foreigners.
Yes please, thank you!
Stop Breaking The Law Asshole!!!!!!!!
That’s the logic beyond everything the democratic party’s ever done.
"It's an emergency, that means your God-given rights go away herp derp"
" instead of in the cargo bay."
Instead of leaving you in the middle of the desert to die.
Fixed for you bud.
At the risk of sounding harsh, I have no problem with this. If someone knowingly came here illegally in the manner they’re describing, just drop them off on the border of their own country. If anything, they’re getting off easy.
Don’t throw them in jail, don’t detain them. Just put them on a bus, drive them to the border, and don’t even bother to wave goodbye as they get out.
“IT’S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY CAN’T AFFORD TO COME HERE LEGALLY!!”
It kind of is, and on top of that, it’s also not our fault or our problem. I don’t hate illegal immigrants. I do dislike people that think the law changes based on their feelings for it, however. If they want new immigration laws, argue for them and lobby for them and let everyone vote. If they don’t like that, they’re welcome to go live lawlessly in the countries most of these people come from.
Oh wait, they can’t, because they don’t allow illegal immigrants.
I have an outside the box theory on what we should do. Build the wall five feet inside us territory. Place migrants outside wall. They have not been deported if they are still on US soil. No paperwork needed.
This would be hilarious.
Either that or a trebuchet
How about a water slide from the wall top that just got ten feet higher?
We name the water slide "Montezuma's revenge"
Presidential Medal of Freedom thinking right there!
The "sorry I'm too poor to obey the law" had never been a valid argument in court and of course it should never be, and the people that go to any other country illegally has already proved they have no respect for the law, if they have the chance they will break any other law not just to get any benefit but even just for the "fun" of doing it
I’ve lived in areas that seem to have a higher number of illegals due to proximity and relaxed standards. What you said rings close to my experience of them. I’ve never seen an illegal start a thriving business, employ people, give back to their community, or even get a nice hair cut. I have seen plenty of them get free health care, free schooling, free food, contract diabetes for which they get free treatment, and even get free college, which I didn’t believe was true until I looked into it. They actually treat them better at some colleges here than actual citizens, or those going through the immigration process the legal way. There are funds for giving illegals stimulus. I’d rather give them a bus ticket.
Most of the illegals I’ve seen or known through friends are either your street-corner strawberry salesman types, the “Imma gang bang kk thx” types, the “lay low and speak your home language forever in a small ethnic community doing off the books work” types, the guys that hang out at Home Depot looking for work, armies of unlicensed contractors that I know my landlord uses on his many buildings, the mom that can’t stop shitting out kids and getting odd benefits for despite nobody being a citizen, and the occasional studies major, if you can believe it.
They actually had a video from a college’s illegal alien program where one was complaining that he couldn’t go study abroad in Mexico for a semester to see his brother because they might not let him back into America because he’s illegal. He was majoring in Mexican studies. Tuition and all that’s free and paid for. I just laughed. “He’s complaining that if he goes back to Mexico for a semester to see his family and study at a Mexican University to advance his Mexican Studies degree, he might be forced to live in Mexico?” It was too much.
Well buddy you know what you just said are the kind of things that make probably most of the people here said "wait wtf, is this shit for real?" then I start scratching my head thinking in the bigger enigma, the mental gymnastics of the people that considers all to bizarre shit to be normal.
In my area it’s all seen as progressive. All they had to do was redefine illegal immigrants as ‘undocumented’, and then in reference to them, simply refer to them as immigrants. Then suddenly everyone’s acting like they’re just people that had their paperwork miss filed or fled burning countries with their families because their government was going to behead them or something. That describes zero people that I’m referring to, but that’s the general image that ‘undocumented’ creates over illegal immigrant, or just illegal. In NY, I think they actually made it illegal to call someone an illegal because it might hit them in the feels.
It’s like a continual search for a new civil rights moment. They ran out of races. Black people are too happy with Trump. They flooded the market with new genders. It’s funny that the final frontier for a new civil rights movement is now people that don’t have any civil rights because they are not citizens. This is largely because everybody’s had rights for many years now. And of course those people will vote for whoever lets them stay and gives them free shit.
In that light, you can see how people in my area not only think it’s normal, but something to fight for. They want their Martin Luther King moment and feel good points. As someone else said elsewhere, “Oh no! Somebody feels bad! Time to burn the constitution” is the general standpoint for all issues that come up. We’re also covered him hobos out here, and right now they’re putting them all up in hotels with free food. Like all liberal utopias, it’s a complete sham and mess.
Even among those coming legally, some sects, like Muslims, seem to quietly grow and fester until they outnumber everyone else and take over. I can’t recall a single country that let in a bunch of Muslims and had headlines like “Muslims of Sweden Cure Cancer and Make Positive Contributions to Society.” I know people from Muslim countries that came here legally and aren’t muslim, and they hate them more than anyone else for making them look bad.
I actually like legal immigrants. I’m okay taking the world’s A team for the US. Be the fucking Avengers. But most people in most countries are not the Avengers. Most other countries don’t even have half the moral decency found in even the worst US citizens. Beliefs and culture matter. If another culture is largely blowing each other up and saying they want to kill us, or seemingly just have incompatible values, maybe don’t let them live here. If I was looking for a roommate, I wouldn’t let someone in that I found actively at odds with everything I value. They can go somewhere else. We’re not the world’s day care or homeless shelter. If some mega rich type with a mansion wants them in, then they can personally adopt them and be their exclusive source of financing.
We’re a nation of immigrants, but we’re a nation of immigrants that all came here legally and abide by the law with compatible values with something to offer one another. What are middle eastern refugees going to offer us, innovative ways of making explosives? Sharia law? Spousal abuse? At least Pedro’s dropping them strawberries.
If these are legitimate loans, who here in america issues the loans to unknown persons in order to pay coyotes? What's the risk analysis behind this? Wouldn't this be fraud in order to get the loans? Without reading the article, the headline screams sensationalist BS
Not in US...
Loan sharks in their own countries in partnership with the coyotes give them money but they have to put something as guarantee, so they put their house or land and in a couple of years of slave work and stealing from the state they pay the debt.
This is all garbage illegal activity stacked on bad choices. I know the allure of american opportunity is great. But that doesn't entitle the world to it.
I'll harp on the adage of "just come here legally"
Rumor is Nancy is fighting to get these coyotes their own $1200 checks (up to 750,000 pesos) with an additional $500 for each kid (limit 10 per household).
Newsom just released $125,000,000 for illegal aliens. $75,000,000 from taxpayer coffers and $50,000,000 from “charities”
Those charities are NGOs funded by the government, our tax dollars. I guarantee it.
America is the equivalent of an innocent man being forced to dig his own grave.
Thats like 2 dollars per illegal.
Technically its for CA illegals only 🤦♀️
I would pay every last TrumpBuck I got to watch Nancy get eaten by literal coyotes
'Yes, coyotes mauled Nancy, but context is everything. Here's why Trump is to blame'
"Won't somebody PLEEEEEEASSSEEE think of the criminals!!!"
They already have. There was a criminal released from prison because of Wuhan virus fears who committed murder last week. 🤦♂️
If they're letting murderers out of prison, why not murder the murderers, then when you go to prison say "buh muh Corona!" and then they're forced to release you so you can do it some more?
Do we have to go across the border and jump back over as an illegal immigrant first? Cuz that's just a deal breaker for me
All this msm illegal alien sympathizing is going to backfire on them. Im guessing people are sick of the programming and are becoming increasingly fed up with these invaders
yes... Let us pity these poor "migrants" while citizens and small businesses of america are put on halt for a MAJOR PANDEMIC...... Blow me...
edit: "MAJOR PANDEMIC"
Reporting to ice all the illegal parents at my kids school would take a week. They are all on EBT and don't report their husbands who make good money. It makes me sick. I'm sad for the kids who we've had at birthday parties even though their parents don't speak English.
Illegals. Not migrants.
So these people have homes. They aren't being driven from their homes by the cartels. I mean, if they were, why are they hiring the coyotes, who are very likely to also be cartel members, to sneak them into the US?
They have homes, they should stay there.
I remember seeing pictures of some of the "migrants" before they left their country, and they were VERY WELL OFF. Nice homes, nice cars, nice iphones, nice clothes. All of a sudden they're "in danger" or "want a better life?"
Bullcrap.
Reminds me of the older days when breaking the law was the least of your worries. You owe gambling debt, default on your loans, or try to evade your obligations and you were met by the the underworld. Want to avoid all of that? Stay clean.
Like on the West Coast where you don't go to jail unless you steal more than 900 dollars worth of items. Why are they pushing for lawlessness now in current times?
Pay money to smuggler to get into country illegally
Face repercussions of being here illegally
shocked pikachu face
Taking out loans for human trafficking? Yeah fuck off Vice no one gives a shit!
Democrats never gave up on slavery. They just changed what group to enslave and their methods.
ILLEGALS GET THE FUCK OUT
Luckily Vice News "journalists" are going to be right behind these illegal aliens in losing everything. Fucking parasites.
Vice is a Ponzi scheme.
Default? Coyotes are running banks now?
LOL
Not a fellow Citizen? Not my problem.
OUT OUT OUT
AMERICA FIRST
MAGA
Fuck them. They are all criminals.
What kind of idiot would even think to write this while AMERICAN CITIZENS are losing their jobs by the millions and can't afford to pay their bills?
"Coyotes," ie, murderous international crime syndicates who would happily rape and torture every single one of us and parade our severed heads around town on a pike.
Is this supposed to guilt us into giving illegal aliens stimulus checks?
So they can pay their large debt to their human traffickers?
Fucking seriously Virtue.com???
As my father used to say, while rubbing thumb and fore finger together, "this is the world's smallest violin playing my heart bleeds purple piss for you"
Since when do we try to fund criminal enterprise such as coyotes/smugglers? Many of these people abuse and traffic the people they take in
*world’s tiniest maracas
FTFY. We’re talking about Guatemalans, not people from a civilized country. Definitely a percussion instrument people.
They are not journalists...........Wake up these are keyboard activists.
Okay, let me get this straight. Vice is implying we're to feel sorry for migrants who break law to come here illegally because they put their homes up for collateral to pay a group they hired for services. (Illegal services, but the coyotes wouldn't be in business if there were no customers.)
So, what about these hardworking coyotes facing business decline due to Chinese virus...and losing more money from customers defaulting on their mortgage IOUs??? Law-breaking but hardworking coyotes deserve those houses more than those defaulting, law-breaking migrants who come here for US handouts. /s
Oh no! How will these illegals get out of paying the smugglers?! How will the HUMAN TRAFFICKING smugglers survive without the debt being paid!
Defund CA and it stops
Defaulting on the loan they took to hire a criminal to help them illegally invade my country?
I feel bad for anyone whose country is racked by crime and poverty and corruption. But their problems are not our problems and we have no obligation to take them in, especially in large numbers that overwhelm our economy.
I’m supposed to feel bad for people who want to illegally enter our country and reap the rewards our ancestors bled and died to earn for us, because they can’t pay back the loans they took out to give to drug cartels? LOL yeah get fucked
Womp womp
"But won't someone think of....human traffickers?"
Boo fucking hoo.
I'll just let Willy Wonka do the talking.
RIP
It pisses me off to no end how whenever you corner the left on illegal immigration and they're not a radical anti-American they pivot to "we shouldn't deport people already here! we have to disincentivize it!" and then any conceivable disincentivization that could ever apply to potential illegal immigrants they go all "OMG NO! THIS THING HAS TO BE STOPPED!"
Motherfucker do you believe anything you say?
This is literally a Vice article about something that disincentivizes illegal immigration with a negative framing. They are the party of open borders.
People have been programmed to demand open borders without even realizing that's what they are demanding.
They will tell you straight up they don't want open borders and then immediately turn around and argue against every single form of border control, and for allowing literally anyone who wants to enter the country and stay forever with no standards or requirements.
Then they go right back to acting shocked you would say they support open borders and accuse you of strawmanning them.
NPC programming is very real. They are expressing thoughts and ideas that aren't their own, that they clearly didn't think about.
Come to California. We got your $500 check right here
"Migrants" don't use coyotes.
I have no sympathy for those in this situation. If you want to come to my country then at least show that you respect our laws. If not, and you try to circumvent to enter illegally, then you must go back.
Get the fuck out.
Lol default? Sounds like perfect loan sharking techniques
Mexico will pay.
The wall is also going to help them default.
This sounds more like a cry to reopen the economy not begging for handouts which is surprising. Actions have consequences, you break laws and deal with bad people, often times bad things happen. You don't get a bail out for retardation.