There was virtually no media coverage of this pandemic because there was nothing to gain from it. Hopefully people walk away from this knowing that the media does not have your best interest in mind.
"Memorize this fact to prove you're smart" is fucking insane. In a time in society when things change so rapidly it's hard to keep up, teaching kids HOW to learn is 100% more important than WHAT you learn.
80's public education was rife with this. Purely learning things by memorization and nary a class that even tolerated independent or critical thinking. They were churning out drones for the corporations at that point and its only gotten worse since then.
Public Schooling in general was adopted from the German Model at the turn of the century.
It was championed by Henry Ford who needed obedient workers to work on a assembly line.
Education in general has not evolved in the past 100 years. This virus has done more to evolve K-12 education than every reformer in the past 30+ years.
Well I hope education remains forever changed. People here seem to not like the "new normal" phrase, but some things could be vastly improved as a result.
Going back to Germany, look at the Frankfurt School. This explains so much of what's gone wrong with the Country
The transition from agrarian to industrial in the German Empire. The whole orderly way schools are structured mirror early factories. The goal was to teach children to be slightly more competent but not enough to over-extend their betters.
When the US was engaged of putting its population first (using trade and the mechanisms of trade). The Frankfurt school had a massive issue converting people. People forget, Karl Marx was a proponent of free trade and saw protectionism as a hindrance to his Communist ideals.
The Frankfurt school...well let me rephrase, the scholars from the school were the first two emigrate when Hitler started to crack down on colleges who had a certain tribe on the payroll. These scholars emigrated to Santa Monica and tried their little Marxists pow-wow.
The only issue was a few fold. One, they chose the richest state at the time to start a revolution (CA). Two people were making money hand over fist due to lend-lease as factories had to increase wages to produce goods. Three, even blacks were making far above wages that they would often tell these morons to piss off.
When everyone is making money, there's no need for socialism. The way you usher socialism is by creating such a divide between the upper and lower strata. You can accomplish this by pushing for Free Trade Agreements (or Free Trace Fleecing as I call it) that would push non-college type jobs out of the US to cheaper production sites. Then you push those people who would exit High school and go strait to a factory job into college, strap them with debt and sell them the lie of "learning college will equal a six figure degree". Then before they exit out of college, lobby for HB-1 visas and snatch those entry-level white collar jobs. Then you have a population of angry, dissatisfied and educated people whom often if you say the right words will back socialism. Do it early in the programming is easier. This is what we see, this is what is happening. Free-Trade RINO Necons argue Free Trade is good, but are disingenuous when you allow those new higher paying jobs to be seeded by cheaper labor through visa programs. Yet they say its good, socialists love free trade because it destroys the middle class. Its a conservative, nay a Republican thing to call for some form of protectionism, be it jobs or keeping certain well paying industries in the country. Free trade is only Free trade when its not government institutionalized. Government sponsored Free Trade only leads to wealth depletion and disparity.
Ford's hate for the Jews was more because it took him years to obtain licence for the internal combustion engine. It was held in a private trust that only the wealthy could get. Ford saw innovation stifled and fought hard to get it out.
Antisemitism was on the rise at the start of the industrial revolution partly its the blame of old habits (ie Catholics giving banking to Jews because they didn't want to charge interest. So yea...its a monster made and turned into a boogy man. That's often never discussed by antisemites because it ruins their narrative).
However the whole idea of schooling was to create smooth brain individuals who would be happy as drones instead of thinkers. That's all on the Germans and their need to control their own society. It just so happens plutocratic French thought was able to infiltrate schooling, followed by what we see now modern Maxism. (Marxism was based on French Revolutionary Thoughts...make sure to thank a Frenchie for given Hagel and Max the bright idea for the most destructive ideology the world has seen)
I thought it was bullshit at the time, but the single most important thing I learned in college was a problem solving method that was drilled into me every day during various math classes. Memorizing equations and facts would come in handy later, but being able to break down a problem into its components and come up with some sort of cohesive plan for how to solve it handles about 90% of any job (Edit: or any other challenge in life).
I went back to college in my late 20s. Had a professor in Biology that was well known as the hardest at the school. It was over a shortened summer semester so it was like his normal class on steroids. About halfway through, I absentmindedly commented to him that the trick to his classes was to memorize everything. He got all pissed and talked about how he is a real teacher. Well, I spent the semester memorizing everything and pulled out a B+ only because he literally never gave an A.
You have Carter to blame for the nationalization of the public education system. Of course it's a Democrat that seized control. And of course spineless Republicans never rolled it back.
Which means cops are hired on the basis of making sure they aren't too smart. This has ramifications for 1776! I see no advantage to waiting, it's time to go NOW!
True, but there are unintended consequences to this debacle, one of which being people are starting to realize homeschooling isn’t a bad idea after all.
No, i am sure it is just a coincidence that all those to lead the shutdown were rabidly anti-trump (D govs, NBA, late-night comedy shows). Nothing to see here.
Well dayyumm! It can be called many things. I still prefer to call it Wuhan virus. Everybody was saying it. When it first broke out everybody was calling it Wuhan virus. Nobody was trying to shelter the CCP and nobody suspected the WHO. Everybody knew it was the Wuhan virus and it wasn't racist, no problem there.
Does it surprise you a century virus does things regular disease doesn't to your daily life?
Spez: Downvotes because muh "hospitals are all empty, economy was shut down for nothing, it's just like the few, not that many people died, symptoms aren't that bad, etc" literally every bit of fake news under the sun you faggots can cling to. Face the facts retards, this virus WAS dangerous, Trump DID take action, and lives have been SAVED because of it. If he had followed Cuomo's dogshit logic every metro area in the U.S. would be bleeding red like the clusterfuck that is NYC.
You've never seen anything like this in your life, your boomer parents never saw anything like this in their life, but your grandparents ARE the closest thing to experiencing real hardship in WWII that you have to reference to. I'd like to imagine half of T_D.win bitching in 1943 over not being able to buy cheap tin and metals because of rationing for military war efforts, which is exactly what you're doing today. Stop being fucking pussies, life is hell and thanks to commies across the ocean, YOU'RE IN IT.
A "century virus?" Wtf does Wuflu have to do with that? Give Trump pills to people as soon as they test positive and nobody has died. Not one! Almost nobody has to be hospitalized. Even fewer need to be put on a ventilator. Even more importantly, those that have been placed on a vent come right off, MUCH better outcome than without Trump pills.
Now if you turn people away when they've been sick for a week but don't have pneumonia yet so you won't put them in the hospital, and they can never make it back because they die first what do you call that?
I call that mass murder. Since we have 60 million + HCQ pills in this Country and half a billion more on the way before May, there's no excuse. Even King George never engaged in that level of tyranny!
My grandfather has a caretaker, whom I know very well, and her sister died to Corona. She was given hcq and azithromycin. I am in the midst of trying to find out how long after being diagnosed was she given that treatment.
I'm very sorry to hear that, but thank you for volunteering the information. I do know there are some high profile studies being done with that exact combination, which is setting HCQ up to fail. Although no one knows how or why it works, it is suspected that the real mechanism by which it works is zinc. So without zinc as part of the 'cocktail,' not only is it not a valid study but it's actually furthering the precedent of mass murder started by Cuomo that almost everyone is only too happy to follow.
I realize you may not be able to find out if this individual was also taking zinc in a substantial amount; 50 mg elemental zinc daily is apparently what Dr Zelenko was using and we're really not sure if the form he uses (220 mg zinc sulfate) is significantly different from any of the other forms it's available in. Zinc is available OTC so it might not even be listed as part of the prescription?
Of course another important variable is how long did this individual suffer symptoms before getting any HCQ, and "how bad" were they. The official ranking of symptoms is everything is "mild" if you don't have pneumonia. That's absurd. The only other option is "severe," meaning you do have pneumonia and that's basically the only way you get admitted to the hospital for Wuflu. I wonder how many people really knew what pneumonia was before this crisis? I certainly did not, and it seems most still don't. It's something we've all heard so much I think we just take it for granted that we have some idea what it is. It seems some things about the way that develops are different with this plague, making survival less likely; that it's less about the virus itself, and more about the condition of the lungs.
Which brings up other really important variables: age, and other risk factors the two biggest of which are diabetes and lung disease, in that order. Really strange to me that diabetes currently ranks worse, but they lump all people with asthma in with those who have COPD and emphysema which is again a gross abuse of statistics. More people diagnosed with asthma have comparatively little difficulty with it, whereas "poorly controlled asthma" is an entirely different critter that doesn't much respond to any treatment. Meaningful statistics would have to differentiate between these. Another surprise is the high risk group that is cancer patients on immunosuppressants, the statistics I saw shows them pretty low on the list for dying. But I would expect this to make the biggest difference in susceptibility to catching it, and they don't show that which probably means they haven't collected data in that fashion.
I haven't seen data for all these groups presented, and I don't think it's too soon to have it. I don't think they're making any attempt to gather it, or are making the attempt to hide it. Having all this information is crucial to evaluating any course of treatment for this plague, because these variables play such a huge role in the outcomes people are having. It's also really important to have in order to devise any responsible plan to open things back up.
Century virus being what the Spanish Flu was - a unique virus with such a high transmission rate that outbreaks occur to every corner of the planet. Typical viruses can't even accomplish this, hence they are not that disruptive and far reaching.
Luckily, one hundred years later, we do have a big aide called hydroxychloroquine that our great grandparents did not.
HCQ has been denied to sick people in almost every State. We still don't come anywhere near the epidemic of 1918. And it continues to spread despite our lockdown, if the numbers reported to us are anywhere near reliable.
Which means our efforts are largely misguided. Particularly as it concerns our rural areas, which remain mostly unaffected. We still have no idea how many people have already developed an immunity to it, but in some areas that might approach 30% of local population. Therefore the best approach would be to open up the areas of low population density first which have the least cases. No possibility of second wave spiraling out of control. As antibody testing expands, have immune people go back to work no matter where they are. And we accumulate data to apply to responsible strategy of how to open up more densely populated areas.
But our cities should remain last. those will be the most difficult, and most likely to get swamped. This approach will also give us the most data to use, where we need it most. Done right we'd be halfway through this process already.
Your faulty logic being it would spread the same regardless of a lockdown or not. That is wholly untrue, it would be much MUCH worse, as indicated in the report Trump was given back in late February that lead to the March quarantines.
I don't disagree that rural and urban could've been handled vastly different, but two weeks minimum quarantine is needed to put a damper on a virus of this transmission rate regardless of where people live - then followed by wearing face coverings in public for a month or two afterwards so we're not locked down forever.
The Spanish Flu had an equal transmission rate, and spread all the way to Eskimo villages in the Arctic Circle it was so infectious. Without lockdown, Wuhan flu would've done the same, but luckily it did not because we DID. Trump knew all of this perhaps a little too late from advisers (Fauci moron) and took appropriate action. He also took imo excellent action in railing against Cuomo for not locking down NY quicker and harder, which Cuomo is STILL to this day bitching about taking the steps to protect NY citizens. NYC is Exhibit A for when you don't take this thing seriously and fuck around and find out. And subtract whatever cases you think are padded in NYC or whatever but it would still be the highest in the nation by far.
I'm not joking. Where I live H1N1 kind of just placed through. I was still working. I didn't have to stockpile food. Didn't have to buy a year's supply of bog roll. No talk of lockdowns. People were dying of it where I live.
The big big difference with this one is China. China was more focused on its own economy back then. Not saying they didn't fuck around in international markets or didn't buy up companies. Because they did. Its just they were not spreading out influence to other countries back then.
China's "stance" on world domination is vastly different now. No one is in any doubt that the Wuhan flu is a bioweapon.
And Obama didn’t do a thing that year for H1N1 till October ... and nobody noticed. Because just like covid, more people die from all sorts of things than this BS. Go back to work. Trashing the economy is the game plan of the dems, deep state and Chinese working to subvert us.
Yup. I barely knew about it, and probably only knew anything about it because I was working in Korea and they had to deal with SARS1. When I caught swine flu it hit my like a ton of bricks, and I was a very fit and healthy 20-something. Took a couple months to fully recover. Wouldn't recommend it. With this virus, I may have been infected but the symptoms were too mild to really know for sure and I couldn't get testes anyway. Though some reports of organ damage and possible AIDS-like syndromes even without having had serious symptoms are extremely worrying.
I think I was 13 or 14, definitely got it in 2009 though. I was super sick for like 2 days, and then my fever finally broke on the third day. That shit sucked.
Yes, OP is either baiting or just a jackass, H1N1 was nothing compared to the transmission rate, life, and complications of the coronavirus.
Theres a reason China put 70 million people on lockdown in mid January and didn't do anything during H1N1 - and it wasn't to exhert control, at least not initially.
Well here we are 7 months into the pandemic not a year, with nearly 4 times the number infected and nearly 120000 dead. Thanks for pointing out precisely why the whole world is treating this as a much more serious event. You could call it a once in a century event even.
That there are still people wearing cast iron blinkers to how bad this is staggering. The President is the one telling everyone to apply social distancing, do you think he's just trying to hurt the country?? of course not, if you cant listen to the Presidents advice your probably on the wrong site.
First of all, we KNOW we don't know how many people have been infected with this virus. Therefore it is utterly impossible to come up with any statistic re: mortality rate; it's just silliness. Which you engaged in throughout.
The number of dead reported is pure fabrication. We don't know how far it's off or when they first started counting people that died of nothing to do with Wuflu, but the number of deaths per day jumped up ridiculously just before Drs all over the country started reporting that death certificates were being filled out improperly, attributing anything and everything to Wuflu.
The number of people recovered reported on worldometers.info is not supported by any data furnished by States, and their own State data refutes it. This number is grossly exaggerated.
Since the number of dead and recovered are both wildly off, are we to trust the total number of cases? And how much will you pay me for my AZ beachfront property?
Most people who get infected recover just FINE. Permanent lung damage happens when you're put on a ventilator. About half of those die on a ventilator. Of those who live, it's likely they have permanent damage to other organs in which case they're not likely to survive another 2 years.
Get your fact straight! Now, how is it spreading so fast with everybody hunkered down? We're being lied to, on a grand scale. That's not because they have our best interests in mind.
And all you want to do is hand King George the KY? You're a very evil engineer.
H1N1 was not hyped because it wasn't anywhere close to how corona behaves. The Wuhan Flu is closer to the Spanish Flu, the behavior of a once in a century virus. Basic research would've saved you that OP.
There was virtually no media coverage of this pandemic because there was nothing to gain from it. Hopefully people walk away from this knowing that the media does not have your best interest in mind.
Public schools have pretty much killed critical rational thinking.
"Memorize this fact to prove you're smart" is fucking insane. In a time in society when things change so rapidly it's hard to keep up, teaching kids HOW to learn is 100% more important than WHAT you learn.
80's public education was rife with this. Purely learning things by memorization and nary a class that even tolerated independent or critical thinking. They were churning out drones for the corporations at that point and its only gotten worse since then.
And we’re seeing the results of this indoctrination method of teaching for the past 30 years now in society.
Public Schooling in general was adopted from the German Model at the turn of the century.
It was championed by Henry Ford who needed obedient workers to work on a assembly line.
Education in general has not evolved in the past 100 years. This virus has done more to evolve K-12 education than every reformer in the past 30+ years.
Well I hope education remains forever changed. People here seem to not like the "new normal" phrase, but some things could be vastly improved as a result.
Going back to Germany, look at the Frankfurt School. This explains so much of what's gone wrong with the Country
This was pre-Frankfurt School.
The transition from agrarian to industrial in the German Empire. The whole orderly way schools are structured mirror early factories. The goal was to teach children to be slightly more competent but not enough to over-extend their betters.
When the US was engaged of putting its population first (using trade and the mechanisms of trade). The Frankfurt school had a massive issue converting people. People forget, Karl Marx was a proponent of free trade and saw protectionism as a hindrance to his Communist ideals.
So how did the Frankfurt school first work its way into the US? What was the difficulty "converting" people?
The Frankfurt school...well let me rephrase, the scholars from the school were the first two emigrate when Hitler started to crack down on colleges who had a certain tribe on the payroll. These scholars emigrated to Santa Monica and tried their little Marxists pow-wow.
The only issue was a few fold. One, they chose the richest state at the time to start a revolution (CA). Two people were making money hand over fist due to lend-lease as factories had to increase wages to produce goods. Three, even blacks were making far above wages that they would often tell these morons to piss off.
When everyone is making money, there's no need for socialism. The way you usher socialism is by creating such a divide between the upper and lower strata. You can accomplish this by pushing for Free Trade Agreements (or Free Trace Fleecing as I call it) that would push non-college type jobs out of the US to cheaper production sites. Then you push those people who would exit High school and go strait to a factory job into college, strap them with debt and sell them the lie of "learning college will equal a six figure degree". Then before they exit out of college, lobby for HB-1 visas and snatch those entry-level white collar jobs. Then you have a population of angry, dissatisfied and educated people whom often if you say the right words will back socialism. Do it early in the programming is easier. This is what we see, this is what is happening. Free-Trade RINO Necons argue Free Trade is good, but are disingenuous when you allow those new higher paying jobs to be seeded by cheaper labor through visa programs. Yet they say its good, socialists love free trade because it destroys the middle class. Its a conservative, nay a Republican thing to call for some form of protectionism, be it jobs or keeping certain well paying industries in the country. Free trade is only Free trade when its not government institutionalized. Government sponsored Free Trade only leads to wealth depletion and disparity.
This pandemic will change k-12 teaching for the better. Parents will realize what is being taught in public schools.
Ford's hate for the Jews was more because it took him years to obtain licence for the internal combustion engine. It was held in a private trust that only the wealthy could get. Ford saw innovation stifled and fought hard to get it out.
Antisemitism was on the rise at the start of the industrial revolution partly its the blame of old habits (ie Catholics giving banking to Jews because they didn't want to charge interest. So yea...its a monster made and turned into a boogy man. That's often never discussed by antisemites because it ruins their narrative).
However the whole idea of schooling was to create smooth brain individuals who would be happy as drones instead of thinkers. That's all on the Germans and their need to control their own society. It just so happens plutocratic French thought was able to infiltrate schooling, followed by what we see now modern Maxism. (Marxism was based on French Revolutionary Thoughts...make sure to thank a Frenchie for given Hagel and Max the bright idea for the most destructive ideology the world has seen)
Public education doesn’t even teach you facts now though. It teaches you what you think smart people should believe. What they want you to believe.
I thought it was bullshit at the time, but the single most important thing I learned in college was a problem solving method that was drilled into me every day during various math classes. Memorizing equations and facts would come in handy later, but being able to break down a problem into its components and come up with some sort of cohesive plan for how to solve it handles about 90% of any job (Edit: or any other challenge in life).
I went back to college in my late 20s. Had a professor in Biology that was well known as the hardest at the school. It was over a shortened summer semester so it was like his normal class on steroids. About halfway through, I absentmindedly commented to him that the trick to his classes was to memorize everything. He got all pissed and talked about how he is a real teacher. Well, I spent the semester memorizing everything and pulled out a B+ only because he literally never gave an A.
You have Carter to blame for the nationalization of the public education system. Of course it's a Democrat that seized control. And of course spineless Republicans never rolled it back.
And of course it's actually unified tribe behind the scenes only distracting you with the curtain of 'democrats and Republicans'
Which means cops are hired on the basis of making sure they aren't too smart. This has ramifications for 1776! I see no advantage to waiting, it's time to go NOW!
True, but there are unintended consequences to this debacle, one of which being people are starting to realize homeschooling isn’t a bad idea after all.
It's the only hope.
Ironically, Coronavirus has virtually killed public
leftist indoctrination campsschools.This is like the eleventy twentieth virus I've survived, and I take a shower every day.
I used to take a shower every day, but I'm pretty sure it's now considered a "non-essential activity".
Lol! We've got our own water and waste treatment plant, the rona can't penetrate our toilets and bathing apparatuses.
We all appreciate that.
Really makes you wonder if this is "break glass in case of fire" option of globalists who were losing their grip on the world.
No, i am sure it is just a coincidence that all those to lead the shutdown were rabidly anti-trump (D govs, NBA, late-night comedy shows). Nothing to see here.
Ha NBA is the worst, one guy speaks up against China and the rest of NBA crucified him. NBA and their ties to China is disgusting.
Oh you know they are taking notes.
I thought that was already established.
23 years ago....
This has got to be fake.
nope....https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/09/29/the-dead-zone
You fucked up the link with your ............ it connected the dots...... I dunno gotta put a space o guess.
they haven't fixed it, so I will.. here you go:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/09/29/the-dead-zone
Obligatory fuck the "New Yorker" rag
Look it up. It's in the archives. Papers, dates, and times, and reporter names are there. Also, I love your username.
Well dayyumm! It can be called many things. I still prefer to call it Wuhan virus. Everybody was saying it. When it first broke out everybody was calling it Wuhan virus. Nobody was trying to shelter the CCP and nobody suspected the WHO. Everybody knew it was the Wuhan virus and it wasn't racist, no problem there.
its literally been the wuhan Virus for decades https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/09/29/the-dead-zone
But that doesn't at all mean it was the same virus
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I will wreck your shit.
Lol
Fuck, nice username grab lol
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Infectious diseases that don't shut down the country:
Acinetobacter infections, Actinomycosis, African sleeping sickness, AIDS, Amoebiasis, Anaplasmosis, Angiostrongyliasis, Anisakiasis, Anthrax, Arcanobacterium haemolyticum infection, Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Ascariasis, Aspergillosis, Astrovirus infection, Babesiosis, Bacillus cereus infection, Bacterial meningitis, Bacterial pneumonia, Bacterial vaginosis, Bacteroides infection, Balantidiasis, Bartonellosis, Baylisascaris infection, BK virus infection, Black piedra, Blastocystosis, Blastomycosis, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Botulism, Brazilian hemorrhagic fever, Brucellosis, Bubonic plague, Burkholderia infection, Buruli ulcer, Calicivirus infection, Campylobacteriosis, Candidiasis, Capillariasis, Carrion's disease, Cat-scratch disease, Cellulitis, American trypanosomiasis, Chancroid, Chickenpox, Chikungunya, Chlamydia, Chlamydophila pneumoniae infection, Cholera, Chromoblastomycosis, Chytridiomycosis, Clonorchiasis, Clostridium difficile colitis, Coccidioidomycosis, Colorado tick fever, Common cold, Severe acute respiratory syndrome, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, Cryptococcosis, Cryptosporidiosis, Cutaneous larva migrans, Cyclosporiasis, Cysticercosis, Cytomegalovirus infection, Dengue fever, Desmodesmus armatus, Desmodesmus infection, Dientamoebiasis, Diphtheria, Diphyllobothriasis, Dracunculiasis, Ebola hemorrhagic fever, Echinococcosis, Ehrlichiosis, Enterobiasis, Enterococcus infection, Enterovirus infection, Epidemic typhus, Erythema infectiosum, Exanthem subitum, Fasciolasis, Fasciolopsiasis, Fatal familial insomnia, Filariasis, Food poisoning by Clostridium perfringens, Free-living amebic infection, Fusobacterium infection, Clostridial myonecrosis, Geotrichosis, Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker syndrome, Giardiasis, Glanders, Gnathostomiasis, Gonorrhea, Donovanosis, Group A streptococcal infection, Group B streptococcal infection, Haemophilus influenzae infection, Hand, foot and mouth disease, Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome, Heartland virus disease, Helicobacter pylori infection, Hemolytic-uremic syndrome, Hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome, Hendra virus infection, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, Hepatitis D, Hepatitis E, Herpes simplex, Histoplasmosis, Hookworm infection, Human bocavirus infection, Human ewingii ehrlichiosis, Human granulocytic anaplasmosis, Human metapneumovirus infection, Human monocytic ehrlichiosis, Human papillomavirus infection, Human parainfluenza virus infection, Hymenolepiasis, Epstein–Barr virus infectious mononucleosis, Influenza, Isosporiasis, Kawasaki disease, Keratitis, Kingella kingae infection, Kuru, Lassa fever, Legionnaires' disease, Pontiac fever, Leishmaniasis, Leprosy, Leptospirosis, Listeriosis, Lyme disease, Lymphatic filariasis, Lymphocytic choriomeningitis, Malaria, Marburg hemorrhagic fever, Measles,Middle East respiratory syndrome, Whitmore's disease, Meningitis, Meningococcal disease, Metagonimiasis, Microsporidiosis, Molluscum contagiosum, Monkeypox, Mumps, Endemic typhus, Mycoplasma pneumonia, Mycoplasma genitalium infection, Mycetoma, Myiasis, Neonatal conjunctivitis, Nipah virus infection, Norovirus, Variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, Nocardiosis, Onchocerciasis, Opisthorchiasis, Paracoccidioidomycosis, Paragonimiasis, Pasteurellosis, Pediculosis capitis, Pediculosis corporis, Pediculosis pubis, Pelvic inflammatory disease, Pertussis, Plague, Pneumococcal infection, Pneumocystis pneumonia, Pneumonia, Poliomyelitis, Prevotella infection, Primary amoebic meningoencephalitis, Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy, Psittacosis, Q fever, Rabies, Relapsing fever, Respiratory syncytial virus infection, Rhinosporidiosis, Rhinovirus infection, Rickettsial infection, Rickettsialpox, Rift Valley fever, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Rotavirus infection, Rubella, Salmonellosis, Severe acute respiratory syndrome, Scabies, Scarlet fever, Schistosomiasis, Sepsis, Shigellosis, Shingles, Smallpox, Sporotrichosis, Staphylococcal food poisoning, Staphylococcal infection, Strongyloidiasis, Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, Bejel, Syphilis, Yaws, Taeniasis, Tetanus, Tinea barbae, Tinea capitis, Tinea corporis, Tinea cruris, Tinea manum, Tinea nigra, Tinea pedis, Tinea unguium, Tinea versicolor, Toxocariasis, Toxoplasmosis, Trachoma, Trichinosis, Trichomoniasis, Trichuriasis, Tuberculosis, Tularemia, Typhoid fever, Typhus fever, Ureaplasma urealyticum infection, Valley fever, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, Vibrio vulnificus infection, Vibrio parahaemolyticus enteritis, Viral pneumonia, West Nile fever, White piedra, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis infection, Yersiniosis, Yellow fever, Zeaspora, Zika fever, Zygomycosis
Infectious diseases that do shut down the country:
COVID-19
*Liberalism
Touché.
Don't forget TDS.
Largest pandemic of them all. Instantaneous spread to half the population. Other half immune.
Turns hair weird colors, makes people rabid and scream at the sky and attack the uninfected.
Marriage. Oh! Hit a nerve. Why does a divorce cost so much?
Because it's worth it.
Much better investment than college these days.
Does it surprise you a century virus does things regular disease doesn't to your daily life?
Spez: Downvotes because muh "hospitals are all empty, economy was shut down for nothing, it's just like the few, not that many people died, symptoms aren't that bad, etc" literally every bit of fake news under the sun you faggots can cling to. Face the facts retards, this virus WAS dangerous, Trump DID take action, and lives have been SAVED because of it. If he had followed Cuomo's dogshit logic every metro area in the U.S. would be bleeding red like the clusterfuck that is NYC.
You've never seen anything like this in your life, your boomer parents never saw anything like this in their life, but your grandparents ARE the closest thing to experiencing real hardship in WWII that you have to reference to. I'd like to imagine half of T_D.win bitching in 1943 over not being able to buy cheap tin and metals because of rationing for military war efforts, which is exactly what you're doing today. Stop being fucking pussies, life is hell and thanks to commies across the ocean, YOU'RE IN IT.
A "century virus?" Wtf does Wuflu have to do with that? Give Trump pills to people as soon as they test positive and nobody has died. Not one! Almost nobody has to be hospitalized. Even fewer need to be put on a ventilator. Even more importantly, those that have been placed on a vent come right off, MUCH better outcome than without Trump pills.
Now if you turn people away when they've been sick for a week but don't have pneumonia yet so you won't put them in the hospital, and they can never make it back because they die first what do you call that?
I call that mass murder. Since we have 60 million + HCQ pills in this Country and half a billion more on the way before May, there's no excuse. Even King George never engaged in that level of tyranny!
This eric ciamarella guy is a regular fear shill on here fyi.
He gives us a bad name.
Hmm. With a name like that I'd expect a solid awareness. Thanks for the heads up.
My grandfather has a caretaker, whom I know very well, and her sister died to Corona. She was given hcq and azithromycin. I am in the midst of trying to find out how long after being diagnosed was she given that treatment.
I'm very sorry to hear that, but thank you for volunteering the information. I do know there are some high profile studies being done with that exact combination, which is setting HCQ up to fail. Although no one knows how or why it works, it is suspected that the real mechanism by which it works is zinc. So without zinc as part of the 'cocktail,' not only is it not a valid study but it's actually furthering the precedent of mass murder started by Cuomo that almost everyone is only too happy to follow.
I realize you may not be able to find out if this individual was also taking zinc in a substantial amount; 50 mg elemental zinc daily is apparently what Dr Zelenko was using and we're really not sure if the form he uses (220 mg zinc sulfate) is significantly different from any of the other forms it's available in. Zinc is available OTC so it might not even be listed as part of the prescription?
Of course another important variable is how long did this individual suffer symptoms before getting any HCQ, and "how bad" were they. The official ranking of symptoms is everything is "mild" if you don't have pneumonia. That's absurd. The only other option is "severe," meaning you do have pneumonia and that's basically the only way you get admitted to the hospital for Wuflu. I wonder how many people really knew what pneumonia was before this crisis? I certainly did not, and it seems most still don't. It's something we've all heard so much I think we just take it for granted that we have some idea what it is. It seems some things about the way that develops are different with this plague, making survival less likely; that it's less about the virus itself, and more about the condition of the lungs.
Which brings up other really important variables: age, and other risk factors the two biggest of which are diabetes and lung disease, in that order. Really strange to me that diabetes currently ranks worse, but they lump all people with asthma in with those who have COPD and emphysema which is again a gross abuse of statistics. More people diagnosed with asthma have comparatively little difficulty with it, whereas "poorly controlled asthma" is an entirely different critter that doesn't much respond to any treatment. Meaningful statistics would have to differentiate between these. Another surprise is the high risk group that is cancer patients on immunosuppressants, the statistics I saw shows them pretty low on the list for dying. But I would expect this to make the biggest difference in susceptibility to catching it, and they don't show that which probably means they haven't collected data in that fashion.
I haven't seen data for all these groups presented, and I don't think it's too soon to have it. I don't think they're making any attempt to gather it, or are making the attempt to hide it. Having all this information is crucial to evaluating any course of treatment for this plague, because these variables play such a huge role in the outcomes people are having. It's also really important to have in order to devise any responsible plan to open things back up.
She was given zinc too. Sorry for not including in my original statement.
Quite alright, thanks for the clarification!
Century virus being what the Spanish Flu was - a unique virus with such a high transmission rate that outbreaks occur to every corner of the planet. Typical viruses can't even accomplish this, hence they are not that disruptive and far reaching.
Luckily, one hundred years later, we do have a big aide called hydroxychloroquine that our great grandparents did not.
HCQ has been denied to sick people in almost every State. We still don't come anywhere near the epidemic of 1918. And it continues to spread despite our lockdown, if the numbers reported to us are anywhere near reliable.
Which means our efforts are largely misguided. Particularly as it concerns our rural areas, which remain mostly unaffected. We still have no idea how many people have already developed an immunity to it, but in some areas that might approach 30% of local population. Therefore the best approach would be to open up the areas of low population density first which have the least cases. No possibility of second wave spiraling out of control. As antibody testing expands, have immune people go back to work no matter where they are. And we accumulate data to apply to responsible strategy of how to open up more densely populated areas.
But our cities should remain last. those will be the most difficult, and most likely to get swamped. This approach will also give us the most data to use, where we need it most. Done right we'd be halfway through this process already.
Your faulty logic being it would spread the same regardless of a lockdown or not. That is wholly untrue, it would be much MUCH worse, as indicated in the report Trump was given back in late February that lead to the March quarantines.
I don't disagree that rural and urban could've been handled vastly different, but two weeks minimum quarantine is needed to put a damper on a virus of this transmission rate regardless of where people live - then followed by wearing face coverings in public for a month or two afterwards so we're not locked down forever.
The Spanish Flu had an equal transmission rate, and spread all the way to Eskimo villages in the Arctic Circle it was so infectious. Without lockdown, Wuhan flu would've done the same, but luckily it did not because we DID. Trump knew all of this perhaps a little too late from advisers (Fauci moron) and took appropriate action. He also took imo excellent action in railing against Cuomo for not locking down NY quicker and harder, which Cuomo is STILL to this day bitching about taking the steps to protect NY citizens. NYC is Exhibit A for when you don't take this thing seriously and fuck around and find out. And subtract whatever cases you think are padded in NYC or whatever but it would still be the highest in the nation by far.
Your first statement is dumber than shit. I never stated or implied that de plague would "spread the same regardless of lockdown or not."
How can you possibly be such a dumbfuck that you're capable of coming up with that?
Yeah but orange man wasn't bad then.
He's a time traveler. He's got it covered, no problem there
Fun fact. Spanish Flu was likely H1N1. Spanish Flu was a seriously horrible pandemic that killed at least 17 million. Swine flu was H1N1.
100 years of medicine, hygiene and technology does wonders. Fear shd be diminished, not amplified.
How is anybody ever going to implement OWG (One World Government) like that?
Mutations of corona virus?
Spanish Flu was absolutely not H1N1 nor vice versa. You're getting your viruses confused.
Watch 2009 Fauci interviews. Back benched. Relax. No big numbers in RED on your TV. Wash your hands and enjoy your life was the message.
Media used by people wanting America to fail to drive panic and wreck markets
I was working at Target at the time and you know what precautions we took? Lysol wipe stations by the carts. That's it.
I'm not joking. Where I live H1N1 kind of just placed through. I was still working. I didn't have to stockpile food. Didn't have to buy a year's supply of bog roll. No talk of lockdowns. People were dying of it where I live.
The big big difference with this one is China. China was more focused on its own economy back then. Not saying they didn't fuck around in international markets or didn't buy up companies. Because they did. Its just they were not spreading out influence to other countries back then.
China's "stance" on world domination is vastly different now. No one is in any doubt that the Wuhan flu is a bioweapon.
And Obama didn’t do a thing that year for H1N1 till October ... and nobody noticed. Because just like covid, more people die from all sorts of things than this BS. Go back to work. Trashing the economy is the game plan of the dems, deep state and Chinese working to subvert us.
Or 2017 when CNN reports 80,000 US deaths due to bad flu season.
Got it.. did not die. Inconvenienced for a few days.
BuT tHiS oNe SpReAdS mUcH fAsTeR!!!
Yup. I barely knew about it, and probably only knew anything about it because I was working in Korea and they had to deal with SARS1. When I caught swine flu it hit my like a ton of bricks, and I was a very fit and healthy 20-something. Took a couple months to fully recover. Wouldn't recommend it. With this virus, I may have been infected but the symptoms were too mild to really know for sure and I couldn't get testes anyway. Though some reports of organ damage and possible AIDS-like syndromes even without having had serious symptoms are extremely worrying.
Lol. Auto-correct?
lol, typo.
I think I was 13 or 14, definitely got it in 2009 though. I was super sick for like 2 days, and then my fever finally broke on the third day. That shit sucked.
Yeah, I thought I was going to die for a bit there when I couldn't stop coughing. Was coughing so much I couldn't go to sleep.
Wake up patriots.
We are but pestilence to these elites, they're goal is to enslave and to depopulate us.
Get ready for fight for your rights, and your life.
All survivors survived. But those who didn't - didn't.
Question: why hasn’t H1N1 resurfaced like the regular flu every year?
It does. SARS cases exist every year. Every respiratory infection does.
TIL.👍
But this is a low effort post, what do the numbers represent?
Estimated deaths.
Also wildly variant.. per usual with these "pandemics"
This is the most ridiculous argument that keeps getting repeated.
"Because all viruses are the same"
The media hasn't changed, this wasn't planned, they are opportunists who are "anti" whatever Trump is for.
Yes, OP is either baiting or just a jackass, H1N1 was nothing compared to the transmission rate, life, and complications of the coronavirus.
Theres a reason China put 70 million people on lockdown in mid January and didn't do anything during H1N1 - and it wasn't to exhert control, at least not initially.
Well here we are 7 months into the pandemic not a year, with nearly 4 times the number infected and nearly 120000 dead. Thanks for pointing out precisely why the whole world is treating this as a much more serious event. You could call it a once in a century event even. That there are still people wearing cast iron blinkers to how bad this is staggering. The President is the one telling everyone to apply social distancing, do you think he's just trying to hurt the country?? of course not, if you cant listen to the Presidents advice your probably on the wrong site.
First of all, we KNOW we don't know how many people have been infected with this virus. Therefore it is utterly impossible to come up with any statistic re: mortality rate; it's just silliness. Which you engaged in throughout.
The number of dead reported is pure fabrication. We don't know how far it's off or when they first started counting people that died of nothing to do with Wuflu, but the number of deaths per day jumped up ridiculously just before Drs all over the country started reporting that death certificates were being filled out improperly, attributing anything and everything to Wuflu.
The number of people recovered reported on worldometers.info is not supported by any data furnished by States, and their own State data refutes it. This number is grossly exaggerated.
Since the number of dead and recovered are both wildly off, are we to trust the total number of cases? And how much will you pay me for my AZ beachfront property?
Most people who get infected recover just FINE. Permanent lung damage happens when you're put on a ventilator. About half of those die on a ventilator. Of those who live, it's likely they have permanent damage to other organs in which case they're not likely to survive another 2 years.
Get your fact straight! Now, how is it spreading so fast with everybody hunkered down? We're being lied to, on a grand scale. That's not because they have our best interests in mind.
And all you want to do is hand King George the KY? You're a very evil engineer.
You're forgetting about the part where Covid-19 has miraculously ended deaths from flu, stroke, and heart disease almost overnight.
H1N1 was not hyped because it wasn't anywhere close to how corona behaves. The Wuhan Flu is closer to the Spanish Flu, the behavior of a once in a century virus. Basic research would've saved you that OP.
Yeah I call bs