The lawsuits coming out of this debacle better be fucking huge to ensure that this shit never happens again. And any cops willfully arresting citizens for no fucking reason are disgusting brown shirts. My support of law enforcement is at an all time low. The FBI, CIA, NSA, and now local law enforcement are all on my shit list now.
It's up now, might've just been people doing their usual rounds. Definitely seems like there's less bootlicking here than there was on Reddit, thankfully.
I thought qualified immunity made it pretty much impossible to sue a police officer. My opinion after reading /r/bad_cop_no_donut for a few years is that cops can pretty much do whatever they want as long as they don’t make their bosses angry - and even then they still get away with it half the time. And when they don’t get away with it they will get a far lighter punishment than other people who commit the same offense.
Can't go to church either Along with hate speech and this crap, the 1st ammendment is groaning.in pain except for the propagandist in the MSM.This is going to be interesting. Bound to get another Dred/Scot ish ruling somewhere.
Ruby Ridge was probably worse. After the ATF and FBI shot Vicki Weaver in the head (FBI, actually, Lon Hourichi was a FBI sniper), they mocked Randy Weaver by asking her what she had for breakfast over the megaphone.
All because someone who didn't like him said he was "muh nazi" and the leftists in the ATF and FBI wanted to flex their muscles and law/accounting degrees.
Nobody ever got punished for it, and Lon Hourichi was celebrated in law enforcement magazines as a hero.
There was I think a $10M wrongful death lawsuit the family (daughter) won but that's not much of a consolation when your parents and siblings are killed
Right, but murder shouldn't only be punishable in civil court. We all know what the FBI and ATF want to do to us now at least, due to their hot-headedness.
There is a documentary on Ruby ridge on prime that was pretty insightful. Great to watch while you are doing a detail clean or spring installation on your 45
Don't want to go into too much detail, but noticed one day that every single reddit account I had ever made, spanning many years, made from dozens of different IPs, some aged 7+ years, were all SUSPENDED for "calls to violence." Reddit admins had clearly figured out my identity and entire online footprint. Then the FBI came around asking me questions to implicate myself, which I did not offer them answers to. Then they went away.
Yep, that sounds about right. They're probably gearing up for a democrat president to disappear us overnight. Probably have an illegal ADEX-like database on us.
They clearly knew all the questions they were asking me, they just wanted to get me to lie. They called me on the phone though, which they probably knew that I knew that phone numbers can be spoofed, they wanted to record me lying with me thinking it was an imposter.
Did you post on physical_removal? That was my one of the subreddits I modded, but they did this around November 2018. I was also a coontown mod, so they have plenty of reason of wanting me dead.
For what it's worth, I hacked Daryl Lamont Jenkins in like 2007 and found out he was a FBI informant/asset. He's still allowed to commit violence today. Meanwhile, look up FBI informants Glen Frazier Miller and Hal Turner.
Nope, only posted on T_D, but quite often called for the American public to take action on people like COMEY, BRENNAN, POWER, RICE, etc those who are walking free but shouldn't be. Got a number of T_D bans for "too much violence" before sitewide ban. The FBI actually showed up to my house though after work. Two agents and a state trooper.
Lawyers should be lining up for this slam dunk win. These are not some vague crimes that people might have committed. They are literally stomping on constitutional rights in plain sight.
NJ is a special kinda stupid. The problem with the state, and every state in America, is the dense urban areas are populated with complete morons. Southern Jersey is pure red like every other state in the country.
When you prevent the people from peaceably assembling and protesting an unconstitutional order, you leave the people only one recourse, and it ain't going to court. We are now seeing the real-world reason for the Second Amendment.
Educate them in a voice that makes their hair stand up.
And remind them: COMMIES EXECUTE ALL ENFORCERS THAT BRING IT TO POWER. THEY WILL BE PURGED BY A GOVT THAT ISSUES SUCH GHASTLY ANTI-AMERICAN ORDERS DUMMY! YOU'RE NEXT! I tell everybody this. Broke americans cant pay your salary! And I will NEVER create another Dachau or stand by watching.
Think many are in the position that if this goes on long enough they would lose their jobs or business. So they are having to act to fight these "orders".
Who wants to bet social media platforms are working in tandem with blue states to snoop your "private" messages and preempt more public cases like this happening.
The blue state love affair with parallel construction will result in gun owners getting hit with red flag "safety" checks, investigation notices from their bank because people are looking into their accounts, and plenty of other mean mugging by militarized police and off the rails investigators working against the people so far outside their mandate they can't even expense the donuts for this shit.
It would take someone to report the message session. I would avoid group chat sessions with people regardless of the subject. Just for the fact that if its reported and someone is being stupid everyone in the group chat gets banned.
But since many police forces are encouraging people to turn on other citizens this is probably happening.
Can you explain the Hong Kong reference? My understanding is HK was land leased by Great Britain, a 99 year lease. At the end of the lease, the city was returned to China. There were guarantees given that Hong Kong residents would retain the freedoms they were accustomed to under British rule. But, China began limiting their freedoms and the Hong Kong protests began.
"Similar protests have occurred in a few other states, but the American public is widely in favor of listening to public health officials’ recommendations. Many genuine civil libertarians have accepted the restrictive safety regimes. The far-right protests do not appear to have any sort of widespread support. Pagan’s action was reportedly the first in the tri-state area, according to WNBC."
Whoever wrote the referenced article is triggered.
fuck public health officials. it's obvious they either have no clue what they're doing or are intentionally peddling false and misleading information to keep lockdowns going
Ummm. Arrested for peaceable assembly and protest. Wow! How do you even find a cop willing to do that? Don't they all swear an oath to uphold the Constitution?
If I recall from civil studies so very many years ago, most movements started with the leaders arrests. Pretty much "political prisoners." You'd think in America we'd be past this, but I guess the Tree of Liberty is thirsty.
The Peace of SHIT known as Bill de Blasio urging residents to snitch on neighbors who violate social distancing.
Just remember in the not so distant past, the Nazis eliminated civil liberties in Germany prior to WWII and opened the first concentration camps to imprison “enemies of the state,”
Nazis worked to consolidate their power through suppression of dissent. In 1933, they issued a decree that required and encouraged Germans to turn in anyone who purposely makes or commits an act through negligence which may seriously harm the welfare of the state is to be punished with imprisonment of up to three months, or by a fine.
A secret police force was also created in 1933, “Gestapo”. The Gestapo was authorized to “protect public safety and order”. They relied on the people / populace to turn in perceived dissidents. In fact the Gestapo encouraged members of the party to “turn in” anyone who spoke against or acted against the state.
violating emergency orders is their money maker now. Not enough cars on the road with taillights out or illegal lane changes, Gotta make it up somewhere.
The lawsuits coming out of this debacle better be fucking huge to ensure that this shit never happens again. And any cops willfully arresting citizens for no fucking reason are disgusting brown shirts. My support of law enforcement is at an all time low. The FBI, CIA, NSA, and now local law enforcement are all on my shit list now.
All Time Low. Secret Police
I bet they snicker when people chant blue lives matter
And the NJSP control over gun laws in this state are also Nazi-esqe.
They also act like literal Nazi storm troopers.
Can you sue the cop for acting "under color of law" ? There has to be consequences.
Yes, absolutely. They don't get to hide behind unconstitutional orders. They are personally liable. Get their badge number and record everything.
Why's this downvoted? Isn't personal liability the entire point of making each one swear an oath?
not downvoted. Dashes in username.
It's up now, might've just been people doing their usual rounds. Definitely seems like there's less bootlicking here than there was on Reddit, thankfully.
Shills are on late night. Goes to show you who is against us. They're not in the US time zones.
I thought qualified immunity made it pretty much impossible to sue a police officer. My opinion after reading /r/bad_cop_no_donut for a few years is that cops can pretty much do whatever they want as long as they don’t make their bosses angry - and even then they still get away with it half the time. And when they don’t get away with it they will get a far lighter punishment than other people who commit the same offense.
Civil rights violations are federal and police are personally liable.... Part of dismantling the Democrats Jim crow laws
I didn't say you wouldn't have to deal with activist judges, because you most certainly will.
Yes you can. Precedent has been set in US 1983.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983
What we are seeing now maybe unprecedented though, mass violation is civil rights.
Worse. They're arresting them for defying a lockdown order and daring to engage in peaceful assembly.
Can't go to church either Along with hate speech and this crap, the 1st ammendment is groaning.in pain except for the propagandist in the MSM.This is going to be interesting. Bound to get another Dred/Scot ish ruling somewhere.
The Constitution is being shredded and the totalitarians are winning.
Ruby Ridge was probably worse. After the ATF and FBI shot Vicki Weaver in the head (FBI, actually, Lon Hourichi was a FBI sniper), they mocked Randy Weaver by asking her what she had for breakfast over the megaphone.
All because someone who didn't like him said he was "muh nazi" and the leftists in the ATF and FBI wanted to flex their muscles and law/accounting degrees.
Nobody ever got punished for it, and Lon Hourichi was celebrated in law enforcement magazines as a hero.
There was I think a $10M wrongful death lawsuit the family (daughter) won but that's not much of a consolation when your parents and siblings are killed
Right, but murder shouldn't only be punishable in civil court. We all know what the FBI and ATF want to do to us now at least, due to their hot-headedness.
They always start with killing your dog too
There is a documentary on Ruby ridge on prime that was pretty insightful. Great to watch while you are doing a detail clean or spring installation on your 45
They're always itching to use their guns so they can brag about being badasses. Dead dogs don't make the news.
That's the kind of people cops are, shooting dogs to feel powerful, with the state behind them.
It ended when Arkansas local police threatened to get me jumped by rednecks, and when reddit got the FBI to attempt to arrest me for a process crime.
Also, when police lied on police reports about friends.
I wish people would stop with the blanket cop support.
Hey, reddit did that to me too!
Tell me your story.
Don't want to go into too much detail, but noticed one day that every single reddit account I had ever made, spanning many years, made from dozens of different IPs, some aged 7+ years, were all SUSPENDED for "calls to violence." Reddit admins had clearly figured out my identity and entire online footprint. Then the FBI came around asking me questions to implicate myself, which I did not offer them answers to. Then they went away.
Yep, that sounds about right. They're probably gearing up for a democrat president to disappear us overnight. Probably have an illegal ADEX-like database on us.
They clearly knew all the questions they were asking me, they just wanted to get me to lie. They called me on the phone though, which they probably knew that I knew that phone numbers can be spoofed, they wanted to record me lying with me thinking it was an imposter.
Did you post on physical_removal? That was my one of the subreddits I modded, but they did this around November 2018. I was also a coontown mod, so they have plenty of reason of wanting me dead.
For what it's worth, I hacked Daryl Lamont Jenkins in like 2007 and found out he was a FBI informant/asset. He's still allowed to commit violence today. Meanwhile, look up FBI informants Glen Frazier Miller and Hal Turner.
Nope, only posted on T_D, but quite often called for the American public to take action on people like COMEY, BRENNAN, POWER, RICE, etc those who are walking free but shouldn't be. Got a number of T_D bans for "too much violence" before sitewide ban. The FBI actually showed up to my house though after work. Two agents and a state trooper.
I think we need to think about throwing the tea into the harbor folks.
I noticed they all were "charged" with violating emergency orders, not laws. Sounds like an easy win if they can afford a lawyer.
Lawyers should be lining up for this slam dunk win. These are not some vague crimes that people might have committed. They are literally stomping on constitutional rights in plain sight.
Please. I hope they sue, win, and finally hang the governor
Some lawyer should start taking these cases on, on a 'no win no fee' basis. Lots of cash to be made!
Yes but the protest was stopped and there will be no repercussions.
This will stop people from doing it in the future which is a win for the NaziState.
I hope someone like Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch could help.
Officers need to start losing pensions and careers so as to discourage this behaviour in the future.
NJ is a special kinda stupid. The problem with the state, and every state in America, is the dense urban areas are populated with complete morons. Southern Jersey is pure red like every other state in the country.
When you prevent the people from peaceably assembling and protesting an unconstitutional order, you leave the people only one recourse, and it ain't going to court. We are now seeing the real-world reason for the Second Amendment.
WE PAY THEIR PENSION NOT THE GOVERNOR LOL
Educate them in a voice that makes their hair stand up.
And remind them: COMMIES EXECUTE ALL ENFORCERS THAT BRING IT TO POWER. THEY WILL BE PURGED BY A GOVT THAT ISSUES SUCH GHASTLY ANTI-AMERICAN ORDERS DUMMY! YOU'RE NEXT! I tell everybody this. Broke americans cant pay your salary! And I will NEVER create another Dachau or stand by watching.
My line in the sand is the Bill of Rights.
These are not laws. Stand Your Ground and call your lawyer
Oh, no biggie. He wasn't thinking about the bill of rights when he did this
Think many are in the position that if this goes on long enough they would lose their jobs or business. So they are having to act to fight these "orders".
Who wants to bet social media platforms are working in tandem with blue states to snoop your "private" messages and preempt more public cases like this happening.
The blue state love affair with parallel construction will result in gun owners getting hit with red flag "safety" checks, investigation notices from their bank because people are looking into their accounts, and plenty of other mean mugging by militarized police and off the rails investigators working against the people so far outside their mandate they can't even expense the donuts for this shit.
It would take someone to report the message session. I would avoid group chat sessions with people regardless of the subject. Just for the fact that if its reported and someone is being stupid everyone in the group chat gets banned.
But since many police forces are encouraging people to turn on other citizens this is probably happening.
Reddit admins have been caught reading PMs.
Imagine what would have happened to us if Clinton won. It'd be the reign of terror.
Above his pay grade
Sue them.
Also very scary shit tbh. This is how they got on in HK.
Can you explain the Hong Kong reference? My understanding is HK was land leased by Great Britain, a 99 year lease. At the end of the lease, the city was returned to China. There were guarantees given that Hong Kong residents would retain the freedoms they were accustomed to under British rule. But, China began limiting their freedoms and the Hong Kong protests began.
China started arresting people who organized opposition marches. Eerily similar to New Jersey.
Didn't the Governor say that interpreting the Bill of Rights was above his pay grade?
"Similar protests have occurred in a few other states, but the American public is widely in favor of listening to public health officials’ recommendations. Many genuine civil libertarians have accepted the restrictive safety regimes. The far-right protests do not appear to have any sort of widespread support. Pagan’s action was reportedly the first in the tri-state area, according to WNBC."
Whoever wrote the referenced article is triggered.
fuck public health officials. it's obvious they either have no clue what they're doing or are intentionally peddling false and misleading information to keep lockdowns going
Murphy did say that the Bill of Rights was above his pay grade.
They're also dumbing down themselves
They always overreach and always double down.
It's why we win.
Shes not convincing anyone. Shes just preaching to her followers
NJ is a shithole Democrat plantation state! Too many sleeping ignorant slaves here that's for sure!
Discovery is going to be incredible. That's where we find out that all of the outdoor restrictions were based on Murphy's feelings
I am so glad we decided to escape from PDSRNJ six years ago and move to America. . .
Ummm. Arrested for peaceable assembly and protest. Wow! How do you even find a cop willing to do that? Don't they all swear an oath to uphold the Constitution?
The ACLU will get right on this.
/s
This is why we have a 2nd amendment. We need to fight back.
I'm sure the ACLU will be over this guys. Yup, any minute now.
STOP THINKING WRONG THOUGHTS!!!!!
Do you want a Boogaloo? Because this is how you get a Boogaloo.
Everyone should wear a burka and they would not be touched.
If I recall from civil studies so very many years ago, most movements started with the leaders arrests. Pretty much "political prisoners." You'd think in America we'd be past this, but I guess the Tree of Liberty is thirsty.
WAY TO GO KIM
❤🇺🇸🍻👌
If this keeps up it's gonna be a shooting war soon. It's probably what the Soros globalist cult wants...
This is bullshit
The Peace of SHIT known as Bill de Blasio urging residents to snitch on neighbors who violate social distancing. Just remember in the not so distant past, the Nazis eliminated civil liberties in Germany prior to WWII and opened the first concentration camps to imprison “enemies of the state,” Nazis worked to consolidate their power through suppression of dissent. In 1933, they issued a decree that required and encouraged Germans to turn in anyone who purposely makes or commits an act through negligence which may seriously harm the welfare of the state is to be punished with imprisonment of up to three months, or by a fine.
A secret police force was also created in 1933, “Gestapo”. The Gestapo was authorized to “protect public safety and order”. They relied on the people / populace to turn in perceived dissidents. In fact the Gestapo encouraged members of the party to “turn in” anyone who spoke against or acted against the state.
Well that dog ain’t gonna hunt
Shoot red coats.
Washington approves.
Sue the governor, sue the arresting officers individually. Win.
violating emergency orders is their money maker now. Not enough cars on the road with taillights out or illegal lane changes, Gotta make it up somewhere.