I personally know a survivor. Remember Janet Fuckin Reno? Also, the Weavers at Ruby Ridge. When Democrats are in charge, communism and totalitarian thinking permeates our government. Trump is still trying to oust this plague three years in.
And what was hilarious about that was she legit said "Donald Trump will never be president in my life time". Well... she was right I'll give her that much lol
Worst of all was the media, who at the time had most of America convinced (through their 24/7 narrative pushing) that the people in that compound were evil and deserved their comeuppance.
The permanent state (congress and senate - no term limits) have always been the enemy. Thry are the deep state and they have the media in their pocket.
Some of the media did present that scenario. Howver, the overall media wasn't as absolutely cucked as it is today. There was also reporting about what an absolute clusterfuck the initial BATF raid was, that started the standoff.
Ruby Ridge happened under George H.W. Bush and the republicans and the sniper that murdered a woman while she was holding her infant was defended by Barr, our current AG.
It still amazes and depresses me that there was so little blowback. Reno didn't even have to resign. She said she took responsibility and the average American said, well that's good. Somebody took responsibility. Case closed.
TO SAVE THE CHILDREN!! we must send tanks, helicopters and snipers, it was the only way.....
But first we must terrorize them, deprive them of sleep for weeks, play torture sounds and strobe lights, again, to save the children we must terrorize them first, and then send in the tanks.
The Government killed people for exercising their Constitutional Rights. Use the search engine of your choice. Then ignore the MSM and read the real story.
i wasn't born yet either. All I know is some crazy dude led what could be called a "cult", had a lot of guns, and long story short the government burnt a bunch of women and children alive instead of just going after the guy who was actually a problem (alleged sex with minors, to put it very lightly)
Good old Deep State FBI leading the charge against Americans even back then...
After he is elected, POTUS should disband the FBI, fire every single employee, revoke every single clearance, and then form a new agency with people that he has carefully vetted. Maybe a handful of the current FBI will be included, maybe none of them.
They don’t care how weak the thinking is, the just mainly care about making sure there’s a seed planted where the jump from one rationale to another is not an insurmountable one.
There was extreme blowback, so extreme a federal building exploded. The militia movement was huge back then and there were an awful lot of them that were really itching to kick things off but kids getting blown up in a federal building made most of them lose their taste for it.
A Trump 2020 flag hangs proudly in the new chapel of the Branch Davidians, along with a Hillary for prison banner...these people will never forget, nor will I.
Well it really applies to these crazy David Koresh worshipping child raping satanists.
I feel sorry for the children, but what's the difference if those adult satanists burned in Waco for a few minutes before they started burning in hell for eternity?
You want proof that this self admitted satanic sex cult was molesting children? That is the enitre purpose of satanic sex cults.
Go back and google the statements of the members who got their children out of there. I seem to recall seeing I interviews of them talking about it on 60 Minutes or 20/20 at the time.
It was a sex cult just like the Jim Jones group and charlie manson.
The fact that the government exhibited fatal incompetence and murdered them all doesnt change the reality of them being a crazy cult who let david Korean molest their daughters.
I still don't know what happened there. In my head I see the footage of the guys on the roof going full auto into the windows, and then it was on fire if I remember right. I had a college professor that was a real dick, and I ended up really liking the guy and we got along really well that told me "If America ever found out what really happened they'd be hell to pay" and that he had seen the tapes. This guy was retired police in a shit hole of a city and I believe he had connections and was reliable. I never pushed it, maybe I should have. In 93 I was in 10th grade so it's fuzzy.
Regenald Denny though, I remember seeing that happen live from a helicopter camera.
based on poofed up evidence that they were even being abused. Or the Sheriff that offered to arrest Koresh personally, or that Koresh offered to answer questions and come out peacefully and even let the local sheriff (not federal cunts) to look around the compound.
That was only after School Officials instigated action because the children were being home schooled rather than being subjected to 13 years of leftist propoganda and indoctrination.
Why are there 2 of these posts using the exact same image? I've noticed duplicate posts or reposts happen a lot, like every day. Are people trying to farm karma here?
I support Americans having their civil liberties recognized, regardless of personal beliefs. I'm also opposed to governments murdering their citizens without a trial.
No one is taking Koresh's side. Koresh's bunch were all loony tunes and a cult. What we are against is govt. overreach and abuse and what also appears to be a cover up of crimes.
Except there is no substantial evidence that Koresh and the BD's were looney tunes and a cult (which isn't inherintly a crime on it's own, remind you) than "ATF said so"
Members of the cult who left in March told about how Koresh raped 11 yr old girls and all the cuckold husbands stood by as David, aka jesus christ, had sex with their wives also.
again, you're going to hearsay, you're also defaulting to "government don't lie", you're not putting any criticism to the motives and incentives that inherintly exist that make the ATF do what it did. They were on the verge of being defunded/merged into FBI by Clinton AND GW Bush, they agreed on that much, they needed a win to say "u still need to give us billions fam" and Waco was that.
Do you need to see videos of children being raped? Do you need them to be interviewed on national television describing their rapes? What would satisfy you? They are child victims and deserve to be protected.
I'm totally against the militarization of our domestic peace keeping agencies.
I'm also against cucks and child raping satanists. Are you?
I personally know a survivor. Remember Janet Fuckin Reno? Also, the Weavers at Ruby Ridge. When Democrats are in charge, communism and totalitarian thinking permeates our government. Trump is still trying to oust this plague three years in.
Samuel and Vicki RIP
Yes basically that! Should be last call at the Barr and give us a fucking MAGA AG
And what was hilarious about that was she legit said "Donald Trump will never be president in my life time". Well... she was right I'll give her that much lol
An early case of the Trump curse.
The real tragedy. She died thinking Hillary had it in the bag.
Imagine her surprise when St. Peter told her the news. Right after a verdict on whether or not she would get in.
And yet RBG clings on somehow
Like a dingleberry.
And she learned who God is.
Worst of all was the media, who at the time had most of America convinced (through their 24/7 narrative pushing) that the people in that compound were evil and deserved their comeuppance.
The permanent state (congress and senate - no term limits) have always been the enemy. Thry are the deep state and they have the media in their pocket.
Some of the media did present that scenario. Howver, the overall media wasn't as absolutely cucked as it is today. There was also reporting about what an absolute clusterfuck the initial BATF raid was, that started the standoff.
To which they could have investigated and arrested Koresh without killing 73 people
That is completely irrelevant but thanks for the info.
can you imagine if that happened under trumps watch though??
Meh I know.. people just don't realize the bar President Trump has set on what we would expect from a President.
Ruby Ridge happened under George H.W. Bush and the republicans and the sniper that murdered a woman while she was holding her infant was defended by Barr, our current AG.
Yeah, Barr is a swamp monster.
I didn't know he was connected to that.
It still amazes and depresses me that there was so little blowback. Reno didn't even have to resign. She said she took responsibility and the average American said, well that's good. Somebody took responsibility. Case closed.
So tragic.
The internet wasn't what it is now. I don't think a lot of people fully understood what was really happening.
That's a very good point.
Most people don't even know this happened today. Those that do know it as some standoff with some crazies who did "something bad"
TO SAVE THE CHILDREN!! we must send tanks, helicopters and snipers, it was the only way.....
But first we must terrorize them, deprive them of sleep for weeks, play torture sounds and strobe lights, again, to save the children we must terrorize them first, and then send in the tanks.
What did happen here? I was born in 99 and have no clue.
Yeah I'd like to know as well
The Government killed people for exercising their Constitutional Rights. Use the search engine of your choice. Then ignore the MSM and read the real story.
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I'm sick.
You possess a soul.
The alphabet boys need to be disbanded fucking now.
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Wow. Clinton has been a sociopath longer than I thought. That is dark.
Ever catch his PBS Frontline bio? Shitting in buckets up in a tree at his Arkansas college and had volunteers swapping them out
Look up david koresh and the branch dividians
ruby ridge the weavers
Cliven bundy and the blm
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols And the Oklahoma City bombing
Watergate and nixon
Or just look at Hillary and the Steele dossier and fbi now
i wasn't born yet either. All I know is some crazy dude led what could be called a "cult", had a lot of guns, and long story short the government burnt a bunch of women and children alive instead of just going after the guy who was actually a problem (alleged sex with minors, to put it very lightly)
Look up david koresh and the branch dividians
ruby ridge the weavers
Cliven bundy and the blm
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols And the Oklahoma City bombing
Watergate and nixon
Or just look at Hillary and the Steele dossier and fbi now
They tried to make it out to be a cult. That was part of the government propaganda.
Look up the Waco Siege and David Caresh there's plenty of good material online
Koresh.
My bad, misspelled the kook's name
The sad state of education. No wonder harvard wants to close down home schooling. Kids might learn how to think.
We did, we just weren't connected.
At least my family knew exactly what was happening, and so we were taking inventory of our guns and making sure we had plenty of ammo.
Good old Deep State FBI leading the charge against Americans even back then...
After he is elected, POTUS should disband the FBI, fire every single employee, revoke every single clearance, and then form a new agency with people that he has carefully vetted. Maybe a handful of the current FBI will be included, maybe none of them.
Absolutely. The FBI has been crooked and corrupt since it was founded. They are a disgrace from top to bottom.
And he should erase the ATF entirely.
ATF should be a nightclub, not a government agency.
Muh rank and file
Also they played the Jim Jones card so everyone looked at it with a different perspective.
Tbh I hadn't known that. It explains so much. 'Well they were all going to be poisoned to death anyway, so maybe incinerating them wasn't so bad.'
Obviously that's still pretty weak thinking but but trust in government was higher then than now.
They don’t care how weak the thinking is, the just mainly care about making sure there’s a seed planted where the jump from one rationale to another is not an insurmountable one.
There was extreme blowback, so extreme a federal building exploded. The militia movement was huge back then and there were an awful lot of them that were really itching to kick things off but kids getting blown up in a federal building made most of them lose their taste for it.
And Then OK city Bombing To Blam White Militia Groups Witch They Did. Oh Fema Was Running A drill Of the Building Being Bombed The Same DAY. 👌THANKS.
Don't forget that extra leg found that wasn't attributed to any victims...
and the additional unexploded explosive devices
should be stickied
Look at his husband. Settled science.
You must be a doctor.
Poppy Bush started this fiasco!!
A Trump 2020 flag hangs proudly in the new chapel of the Branch Davidians, along with a Hillary for prison banner...these people will never forget, nor will I.
You know that saying "get off my side".
Well it really applies to these crazy David Koresh worshipping child raping satanists.
I feel sorry for the children, but what's the difference if those adult satanists burned in Waco for a few minutes before they started burning in hell for eternity?
Ever heard of the bill of rights? You don't get to pick and choose
Proof?
You want proof that this self admitted satanic sex cult was molesting children? That is the enitre purpose of satanic sex cults.
Go back and google the statements of the members who got their children out of there. I seem to recall seeing I interviews of them talking about it on 60 Minutes or 20/20 at the time.
It was a sex cult just like the Jim Jones group and charlie manson.
The fact that the government exhibited fatal incompetence and murdered them all doesnt change the reality of them being a crazy cult who let david Korean molest their daughters.
You're part of a satanic sex cult that molests, rapes and consumes children.
Prove me wrong!
This is not a secret. The evidence has been out there for anyone who has eyes to see.
He made the young girls wear a star of david to signify that they were ready to have sex with him. They were 11 and 12 years old.
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/us/growing-up-under-koresh-cult-children-tell-of-abuses.html
See if you can find the video "Waco: Rules of Engagement." It's probably the definitive work on what went down in Waco.
Look up david koresh and the branch dividians
ruby ridge the weavers
Cliven bundy and the blm
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols And the Oklahoma City bombing
Watergate and nixon
Or just look at Hillary and the Steele dossier and fbi now
I just finished watching Waco on netflix. Dont know how accurate it is, but it seemed pretty fair.
The ATF should be nothing more than the USDA or FDA for Alchohol Tobacco and Firearms.
Yup, these are made correct. Nope these chinese knocks offs are not fit for use. Yes this Ammo is ATF Grade A certified.
I still don't know what happened there. In my head I see the footage of the guys on the roof going full auto into the windows, and then it was on fire if I remember right. I had a college professor that was a real dick, and I ended up really liking the guy and we got along really well that told me "If America ever found out what really happened they'd be hell to pay" and that he had seen the tapes. This guy was retired police in a shit hole of a city and I believe he had connections and was reliable. I never pushed it, maybe I should have. In 93 I was in 10th grade so it's fuzzy.
Regenald Denny though, I remember seeing that happen live from a helicopter camera.
Yes, he was inaugurated in January and was burning people alive three months later
George HNWO Bush teed it up, and Clinton made the swing.
IIRC, David Koresh was leading a religious sect, and they kept guns and such, but they had never harmed anyone and were no threat to anyone.
They weren't assaulting people for having guns, they were assaulting religious leaders.
It was a child molesting sex cult. David Koresh claimed to be Jesus Christ and had sex with all of the women and girls as young as 11.
The cuckold husbands sat in their cuck sheds and let it happen.
This and Ruby Ridge. Funny how these 'mistakes' happened all during Clinton.
Never forget what the Clintons, Janet Reno, and the FBI/ATF did to these people. Says a lot about the government.
Does anyone have a link to a good analysis of this event? Like a youtube video?
Here you go:Waco:Rules of Engagement
Awesome, thank you so much, I greatly appreciate it.
People keep telling me "They had illegal weapons, fully automatics and hand grenades!"
And I say
"Where in the 2A does it say full autos and hand grenades aren't allowed ESPECIALLY if the military gets them?"
Also, if they really wanted to minimize harm, they could've picked him up in town as he was known to be 2-3 times a week.
They wanted to murder them.
They wanted to get the children out. Arresting Koresh in town would not accomplish that.
based on poofed up evidence that they were even being abused. Or the Sheriff that offered to arrest Koresh personally, or that Koresh offered to answer questions and come out peacefully and even let the local sheriff (not federal cunts) to look around the compound.
Always remember this!
Keep your doggos safe frens.
Fuck Lon Horiuchi with a pineapple forever.
Do you know his name?
That was only after School Officials instigated action because the children were being home schooled rather than being subjected to 13 years of leftist propoganda and indoctrination.
I blame KAREN.
By "home schooled" do you mean raped? Because that is what the members said was happening when they left the compound in early March.
Why are there 2 of these posts using the exact same image? I've noticed duplicate posts or reposts happen a lot, like every day. Are people trying to farm karma here?
Is the Netflix show about the real events or is it spinning a tale?
I have a book from the attorney who defended Weaver. It's probably time I read it.
on Live Television
A flesh sacrifice to their fuhrer Adolf Hitler, on his birthday.
One day off actually.
Speaking of "fake women", Janet Reno would give Mel Gates a real run for his/her money...
Satanic Sacrifice
TLDR whole thread: but thought it was the ATF saying they had illegal fully automatic weapons. Thatis why they entered the compound.
I take it for granted that everything the ATF says is a lie.
Now I think maybe there was a child trafficking connection between the Koresh group and the clintons. They covered it up.
Didn’t I hear that everyone was already dead, shot by black helicopters at night?
I support Americans having their civil liberties recognized, regardless of personal beliefs. I'm also opposed to governments murdering their citizens without a trial.
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ATF needed to stay relevant and the globalists needed a sacrifice.
Raped children. Worshipped satan. Other than that they were normal Americans according to many fools here.
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/us/growing-up-under-koresh-cult-children-tell-of-abuses.html
No one is taking Koresh's side. Koresh's bunch were all loony tunes and a cult. What we are against is govt. overreach and abuse and what also appears to be a cover up of crimes.
Except there is no substantial evidence that Koresh and the BD's were looney tunes and a cult (which isn't inherintly a crime on it's own, remind you) than "ATF said so"
Members of the cult who left in March told about how Koresh raped 11 yr old girls and all the cuckold husbands stood by as David, aka jesus christ, had sex with their wives also.
again, you're going to hearsay, you're also defaulting to "government don't lie", you're not putting any criticism to the motives and incentives that inherintly exist that make the ATF do what it did. They were on the verge of being defunded/merged into FBI by Clinton AND GW Bush, they agreed on that much, they needed a win to say "u still need to give us billions fam" and Waco was that.
Do you need to see videos of children being raped? Do you need them to be interviewed on national television describing their rapes? What would satisfy you? They are child victims and deserve to be protected.
I'm totally against the militarization of our domestic peace keeping agencies.
I'm also against cucks and child raping satanists. Are you?