I keep hearing it from the media as if it's their last chance to avoid reopening the economy.
'Ignore those reports about millions of people already having antibodies! It doesn't mean you're immune! Be scared! Let us keep control!!'
But if antibodies don't mean anything then waiting for a vaccine is pointless.
but that would require people to actually understand how a vaccine works instead of treating it as "magic be healthy juice"
Remember how nobody did anything between 5,000 BC and 1955 because there wasn't a polio vaccine?
Listen. I’m not saying nothing, but some 80% of native Americans died to diseases.
Did they stay home? Did they social distance? No.
Checkmate, trumptard. The science is settled.
Bro, that's literally how the left thinks. They treat science and technology as magic that will always fix all out problems. Even if quick "back of the napkin" calculations render thermodynamic impossibilities, the still cling to hope. Just throw more money at the science, that's how they think it works.
And cheer when the magic Science Wizards exclaim “The Science is Settled!”
What the fuck is juice?
Drank for rich white people.
Juicy SMOLEEEYAY!
In this case juice runs the Entertainment Industry.
It's an Inconvenient Truth.
See what I did there?
We are in one big Chicken Pox party. Send your kids now to get it. That is what Denmark is doing right now with all elementary school kids.
It has shown to be seasonal. Everyone under 60 needs to run out and get this asap while they still have health insurance, a job and the hospitals are ready. What science am I missing?
Whet grass shots for everybody!
If we can't make a vaccine for the flu (that actually works for all strains) or the common cold, how could we create a vaccine for the China Flu seemingly overnight?
Yep. This whole thing falls apart when you think about it rationally. It may be a new corona virus... but it's still a corona virus. Every day we "learn" that GASP it acts like a corona virus!! Like being killed by UV light. Either the vaccine is bullshit, or they've been hiding a cold vaccine all this time.
If it gets killed in UV light can the mayor of Jacksonville stop being a cuck and open the beaches all day instead of 7-11 a.m, and 5-8 p.m.
Also, can Minneapolis open all beaches and pools for the summer and put the tennis nets back up please.
It’s also a bio weapon so
It's not a very good weapon. They must not have finished tinkering with it.
You’re assuming it leaves the body and doesn’t reactivate
Influenzae vaccine sole intention is to reduce hib carriage, the introduction of the Hib vaccine has inadvertently shifted strain dominance towards other types of H. influenzae (types A through F).These types have been causing invasive disease of high severity and increasing incidence in adults in the era of Hib vaccination of children. The general population is more vulnerable to the invasive disease now than it was prior to the start of the Hib vaccination campaign.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine-legislation-discrimination-against-unvaccinated-children-unwarranted-no-public-health-risk-dr-obukhanych-ph-d-in-immunology/5447672
Stop right now with your non-sense logic and reason. I dont even know how to response to your common sense
Generally I agree with you but Hib is for a bacterial illness and unrelated to flu (despite the name). Some vaccinations have been shown to increase susceptibility to other illnesses though.
Sorry just saw your reply.
Hib vaccine is simply short for Haemophilus influenzae type B. No?
Yes but not flu. It’s bacterial not viral. Agree very easy to confuse.
Ok thanks will have to read up more on this. What does the Hib ‘protect’ against If it’s not viral?
There isn't 1 strain of the flu, it's something like 12-16 (I'm too lazy to look it up).
[In theory] our resistance to any particular strain of flu, degrades over time, so we might be immunized against one, this year, but there's a different one, the next two years, and by the time the one you're immunized against, comes back around you've lost your immunity.
(that is the "medical field" take on it)
My take is, China (since that's where ALL the flu cases originate) have been practicing weaponizing virus on us for decades. Medical companies like Dr Bill Gates push vaccines because it makes them money. Since they can only (for some odd reason) include 2 or 3 strains each year in the vaccine, and since it takes so long to make (why not ramp up production?) and since they do not know what bioweapon strain the CCP will try on us each year, they have a cash cow.
The reason flu vaccines are hard is that in order to make enough vaccine for everyone, you have to start producing it early in the season. But you don't know exactly which strain (there are several) of flu will be the one that becomes widespread this season, so they bet on one and then it's usually pretty effective, some seasons more than others.
It seems like parts of SARS-CoV-2 don't mutate, so if we design the vaccine to work against those parts, it might be easier than making a flu vaccine. This is the current approach. It will still take about as long as it takes to make a flu vaccine.
Buh buhbuhbuh tah. What about the lives?!? THE LIVES!
They say that to feel good, but we all know that they do not give a damn.
yep unemployment and an extra 600 a week means a lot of these idiots are making more money sitting on their ass then they did working. As long as the person income aid keeps coming nothing will change.
The left: Extreme poverty causes obesity, crimes, increase of murders, mental health problems, and suicide! We need more welfare programs to help people!
Also the left: LoL, who fucking cares if the economy tanks and everyone loses their jobs?
Yes, thank you! If antibodies don't mean you have immunity, then WTF is a "vaccine" going to do? Protect you by magic?
There could be magic underwear. Just ask Mittens.
Funny how they’re all bringing this up now as data starts to come out about actual infection rates.
They'll eventually tell us "antibodies don't mean resistance, you need the vaccine for real resistance," fucking watch. They'll say it and people will accept it.
"These vaccines have been scientifically tested. Your personal anitbodies have not been. Therefore your immunity is not evidence based and is thus invalid."
/S
To which we reply "I got your 'valid' right here, bitch!" Ohhh
The left will accept anything if it's said by the people they want to hear it from. And don't even try to question anything or being critical thinking into the conversation. They'll just pull out their SJW dictionaries and call you everything from a bigot to a xenophobe.
I'm ok with being called a xenophobic bigfoot. If I can add racist and nazi to that I get extra points, right?
Of course! Go for a new combo high score!
I mean it is possible, antibodies fail to fully develop when a virus burns out instead of being fought off by antibodies. Which appears to be what's happening with the reinfection rates in studies of this monster.
From what I've seen there's no evidence of reinfection over simple relapses due to what you are saying; people need time to create the antibodies.
Like the cold It's not one Antibody but a cocktail of them differnt for each person that controls the Virus. Like the cold you can become reinfected with the same strain but it's unlikly...
The news today is such fucking garbage you can't believe a single word of it. Now we're all the way down to antibodies don't resist viruses... Where's the fucking bottom to the media shithole, someone tell me.
You can pretty much just believe the opposite of what they say though. Which means antibodies work and most of us already have them. This plandemic is over.
Remember that Star Trek episode with the puddle of black ooze that was pure evil?
The news is garbage. I’ve been watching local news just to see the spin. Before, in Minneapolis, the local channel was reporting total Covid cases, people recovered, and deaths. I notice today they are no longer reporting recovered cases. So before they would say we have 2,000 cases and 1,000 recovered. But now they want to fear monger so they say we have 2,300 cases and 115 deaths!
They don’t want us to open up and are doing everything they can to only report bad news. Also, hate the MN v. Trump fake news commercials. They are such BS
Yep the Red Star and poop press are doing the same thing. They never tell you who exactly is getting the virus and who exactly is dying, it must pain them to actually run stories on how the nursing homes are the leading cause of death of covid.
Can't use science. Sorry. /s
Obviously it means we have to stay inside forever.
Every sane expert was recommending controlled exposure to create herd immunity. None of them were given a platform and there has been a concerted effort in countries that tried that instead of a global quarantine. The UK tried it and they went after the PM to shut that down. Sweden is doing it and they are working hard in the fake news to paint it as an apocalypse despite their fatality rate being lower than all the big EU countries and on par with the U.S.
There is cell mediated immunity by T cells and a humoral immunity mediated by B cells which secrete antibodies.
Sometimes I think some people here are immune to humor - all of it
The thing they want to happen is people's natural resistance to drop off and for it to re-infect people. As it will naturally do over time.
By dragging out the lockdown they have slowed it down but that is the whole point as the virus will now be around for ages.
Italy got hit hard but it got hit hard fast and over a short period of time so people still have resistance when numbers drop off.
America is dragging out the outbreak so when numbers drop of people resistance will naturally be dropping off as well. Making them exposed to re-infection. This thing is all planned out to deal as much damage as possible to countries like America.
And here comes muh second wave to force another country wide lock down smdh...
I would pay out of pocket to check if I had antibodies
Keep your curiosity in check until this plays out. There is literally no chance right now of being tested in some environment where you DON'T have to give your SS# to someone and HIPA rules be damned, your test result will be as surely SUCKED into some open government db as Americans' phone calls were sucked into the NSA after 9/11. Muh National Emergency.
If the authoritarians have their way C19 status will lead to some immune/not immune caste system in some 'phased' re-opening of the country. Better to be off the radar until you know how things will happen.
There are commercial labs doing it but IMO a reason to wait would be to see the test efficacy.
The VSG GEOTUS keeps dropping the phrase 'The Herd' into his comments, and the last few days conservative talking heads have been given it some attention.
The concept of Herd Immunity needs to matriculate into the public conversation more. Mark Levin's show last night helped me realize that those who have the antibodies - and it's a huge energy suck to try to rest everyone - can't pass COVID on and won't get ill.
Seems that over-thinking this is going to be an impediment to recovery. Isolating and avoiding the virus just kicks infections down the road without a vaccine - and vaccines really just emulate immunities in this case. We're apparently not dealing with as deadly (or untreatable) illness, the world needs to move forward.
So this one virus defies all history and science concerning antibodies? ..K
No virus has had such media power attached to it. It’s like the Bono of viruses.
So you're saying it's fake and washed up?
I'm afraid they will be peddling a vaccine with hidden"extras"
Like?
Oh - aggressive adjuvents, still live virus (remember bird flu contaminated vaccine and Baxter in 2009) or a myriad of other sneaky particles like taggants, quantum-dot crystals. Stuff like that
Those aren’t extras. That’s just par for the course.