Fuck no there is not. They are getting their hours slashed. One person I work with frequently normally leads his dept and has been reduced to wiping down elevator buttons to stay on the clock. There are others that I normally see all the time that have just been not around for weeks. It’s brutal. I’ve asked them how it’s affecting them and they all say they have had to cut back to make ends meet.
Can verify, have some friends and family in hospitals that are working shorter hours because there is almost nothing for them to do. Meanwhile there are people that should be seeing their doctor and are potentially at risk because MSM has them too scared to seek treatment.
Seriously how don't people see this implication in the defense of excess immigration. If those are all doctors and engineers swimming across the Rio Grande, isn't it selfish of you to deny Mexico and Central America their best and brightest? Why do you hate Central America pro-immigration people?
If President Trump said we are going to bring in loads of Doctors from lets say for example Nigeria, they'd all go hysterical that we were robbing Nigeria of doctors and access to healthcare.
Same.
I work PRN, so hadn't scheduled anything for a couple of weeks around Easter. (Family time!)
I called our Director to let her know I'm available for emergencies when all this started. I don't want to go in when it's like this, but I would if I were needed.
Since then, in texts and calls with coworkers I've learned that their hours are slashed drastically, some of the newer hires haven't gone in for weeks. Hard to believe - we're a pretty big hospital in the area. We are a specialized dep't, so that accounts for some of it because routine procedures are off the board, but still...wtf.
That's what the shortage is about. They don't have enough healthcare workers to fill out their dance ensembles.
They need so many nurses for back up dancers. They also desperately need more surgeons to fill out specialty break dancing roles when they cover outdated 2013 hip hop songs, that they think is cool and relevant, but young kids dont even know.
Our entire city has been on lockdown (SF) since well before the rest of the nation. Supposedly because if Covid spreads, the hospitals will be overwhelmed. People are posting photos of empty hospital parking lots, and a week ago the story came out that our healthcare workers from UCSF are now flying to NY to help out there. And we’re all still on lockdown! Some think “for the next two years.” It is totally insane! An experiment in authoritarianism.
I believe I first heard of this from Mark Passio www.whatonearthishappening.com on one of his podcasts. The thing is though, that they are probably correct in that doing so does actually negate some of the karmic consequence. In this way (as they see it) it isn't actually all their fault, because they were quite open about their intentions.
I haven't looked into the hidden hand (Illuminati whistleblower?) much as of yet.
You won't starve to death, as you can have your groceries delivered, but you may drown in your bathtub, according to my models, so I am banning all baths until we can be sure not one person will ever drown again.
Agreed, but I have to have a job to pay (in advance!) for my groceries to be delivered which is more the point I was making. No work - no income - no food (for most people, anyway.)
You wouldn't starve to death in MN. They are giving "free" food away everywhere. But you will have to leave your house to get it. Uh-oh! Do you stay in your house and starve to death or leave your house and get the Rona Virus and die? What a dilemma! :)
I can't make that decision, it's too haaaard. Maybe someone will come tell me what I should do. If I lived in NYC Cuomo would rather I killed myself than step outside. If I lived in New Orleans, I'd be out having street parties in da hood.
lmao human 'beans' really do run the gamut, don't we...
Work in Biotech and know a handful of nurses, it's all a lie. they are getting hours slashed while the hospitals lie about Wuhan Weeze cases for the 40k each GOV funds. Fucking hospital management are trash. Mostly POC and women liberal whores all
Don’t forget those that couldn’t do or teach. The least competent people go into managing, and once you’ve had a ‘manager’ slot, hospital administration thinks you can manage anything.
I had a fat Karen for a boss who had managed a Pediatric Med Surg floor. Some rocket scientist in administration thought she would know have no problem managing a large, busy OR. They literally gave the job to someone with no surgical experience.
I don't mind training new Residents, nurses, or scrubs in the OR but I'll be damned if I'd even try to train an OR Director on the fly, ffs.
In our OR we'd just operate without her & work past her - no time to deal with that. Luckily we have a fantastic DoN, she's an old nurse (about 75) with bleached blonde hair and blue eye shadow, smokes like a freight train and altho she's only about 5'4", she's a freakin' bulldozer.
She's always on our side when it comes to policy, but expects us to do the right thing. Everyone from orderlies to surgeons just love that old woman. She's forgotten more about nursing than most of us will ever know.
America is not alone in far-leftists using "Healthcare workers" to piggyback illegal immigrants onto. Been doing it for years.
The simple fact is health care workers from other countries come legally and through the proper channels. As they are people that respect rules in general.
Regardless, immigration legal or illegal needs to be stopped dead. Millions of Americans are out of work and many more will be out of work in the months to come.
It needs to be stopped for decades, like in the past. We've already let in orders or magnitude more than the total that came through Ellis Island in all its history. That's unacceptable.
So with all airliners idling and fuel cheap as it is, can ICE charter those planes and start deporting all illegals by tens of thousands daily?
All done under budget and ahead of schedule, of course.
Mr. POTUS - Please Add this to your EXEC ORDER - Not only will you not allow immigration into the USA until the Virus stops, you also won't allow Immigration into the USA until ALL 23 Million American's are employed again as they were before this SCAM-DEMIC started!
Agree. And remember, it’s hard enough for Americans to get tested. We need muh tests! More testing! Send muh tests! So we don’t need one more person when our plate is full and Americans need jobs and tests.
DACA scaffolds or deportations pick one.. you have 2 days to pick.
Same with H1B. for ever 1 good, compatent Indian there are 2000 lazy useless stinking pajeets. Exterminate the H1B program, revoke all Visa overnight. Buh fucking bye. 85k americans a year have to fight against them for jobs.
Low paying hospitals have shortages. Unless they are religious affiliated, then some work for the cause, but not many. Of course some of the metro areas like NY have had staffing shortages. This is nothing new in health care. Some seasons are just fucked. This one a little more so due to the PPE situation. PPE is a huge pain in the ass to wear. It's tiring, uncomfortable, hot, and tiring. Makes some claustrophobic. I got used to it doing a lot of procedures, but nonetheless, wearing for 8, 12, 16 hours? Nope. You lost a lot of staff hours just for that.
There's no damned shortage. Hospital censuses are down almost across the board due to people not wanting to go. No electives of course. I have a friend who is a call center nurse (hell) for one of the health-care Giants. Their call volume is even drastically lower. It was extremely high volume at the start of The Media Panic. This call center has 60-70 nurses during the daytime. Nighttime unknown to me.
Deport all of them, every last one of them. The United States has got to stop giving amnesty every few years. We gave amnesty in 1986, and we gave amnesty again with this DACA situation. No one gets deported anyway, except hardcore criminals. We need to start deporting every last undocumented immigrant.
DACA is a very conflicting topic to me. My gf is DACA. She's been here since she's been 6, almost 20 years now she's lived in this country. Wasn't her decision. She works full time and supports Trump much as anyone here. She's as American as any of us but some people are so restricted in their beliefs. Either one extreme view or another. We are both for ending DACA, but to deport these people who've been here their whole life, to a place where they have no home, is ridiculous and tells me people who believe that are stuck in their own bubble much like the left.
Great story, you sound like a liberal who argues with emotion instead of facts. Too bad her parents broke the law. You can either marry her or she can go back. Deportation isn't the only option. There's no reason Americans should pay to support her family who can't properly be taxed without stealing someone else's identity.
Sorry man, you're right, it is hard. Everyone has a story, everyone has a sob story. Illegal immigrants have got to go, period. We give amnesty every few years. That is why people keep coming here illegally. The problem has to be nipped in the bud.
Some of these nurses and doctors were standing around with no patients so they decided to run out onto the road to stop traffic in their own little counter protest against the patriots protesting dictator governors. Real fucking under staffed huh neo liberals.
This is all a cover. The real issue is bringing back USA manufacturing, restoring the domestic supply chain so as to be not so reliant on Asia and other offshore locales. High tech Asian shops mean big bucks to tech billionaires and central banks.
Then tell the Democrats to pay up for it if they want it so much. This could be solved tomorrow, but the Democrats prefer to campaign on it and kick the can down the road every single time.
Every foreign born nurse Ive ever worked with has been here legally. I doubt illegals can even take boards to get a nursing license. But many people in this country are stupid enough to believe this.
If this virus is SO DEADLY why haven't airports been completely shut down? That would be the fastest way to spread it. And if it's SO DEADLY why are there so many carriers without symptoms? That doesn't happen with a life-threatening virus.
What I have heard and I would like someone in the industry to confirm, is mostly personnel from long term care facilities or old folks home. Low pay, relatively low skill jobs. Lots of immigrants work there. In Canada, in a few cites, the armed forces were called in (medical pers) to assist as a lot of workers got either scared or infected and old people were abandonned and died in those homes - the staff got scarcer and scarcer as the caretakers got contaminated and the staff level dropped.
These people are simply monsters who seek to destroy the US for their fantasy globalist vision of the world. Fuck them. Dont take their facts or studies or idea seriously, they mean to have you be poor and a slave.
Even if that were true, it would be an enormous problem we'd want to fix immediately. Find out who hired invaders in the first place and give them quick trials.
Janitors hired through 3rd party service providers under contract to the US Company. Because of discrimination laws, it would be very difficult to find out if that 3rd party hired contractor is legal to work or not. And more than likely with some basic stolen/borrowed/lent/leased paperwork, they are "legal" from the standpoint of an inquiry from an endpoint account.
Serious question.
Is there even a healthcare worker shortage right now?
All I see is videos of bored nurses dancing in empty hospitals on instagram and tiktok.
Fuck no there is not. They are getting their hours slashed. One person I work with frequently normally leads his dept and has been reduced to wiping down elevator buttons to stay on the clock. There are others that I normally see all the time that have just been not around for weeks. It’s brutal. I’ve asked them how it’s affecting them and they all say they have had to cut back to make ends meet.
Can verify, have some friends and family in hospitals that are working shorter hours because there is almost nothing for them to do. Meanwhile there are people that should be seeing their doctor and are potentially at risk because MSM has them too scared to seek treatment.
Mexico needs healthcare workers too, send them back.
Seriously how don't people see this implication in the defense of excess immigration. If those are all doctors and engineers swimming across the Rio Grande, isn't it selfish of you to deny Mexico and Central America their best and brightest? Why do you hate Central America pro-immigration people?
I always thought it would be better to deport people to shittier shitholes than the one they came from.
If we deported to Saudi Arabia that would stop a lot.
As does El Salvador and Guatemala
If President Trump said we are going to bring in loads of Doctors from lets say for example Nigeria, they'd all go hysterical that we were robbing Nigeria of doctors and access to healthcare.
Healthcare Worker, can confirm this is all correct.
Same. I work PRN, so hadn't scheduled anything for a couple of weeks around Easter. (Family time!) I called our Director to let her know I'm available for emergencies when all this started. I don't want to go in when it's like this, but I would if I were needed.
Since then, in texts and calls with coworkers I've learned that their hours are slashed drastically, some of the newer hires haven't gone in for weeks. Hard to believe - we're a pretty big hospital in the area. We are a specialized dep't, so that accounts for some of it because routine procedures are off the board, but still...wtf.
That's what the shortage is about. They don't have enough healthcare workers to fill out their dance ensembles.
They need so many nurses for back up dancers. They also desperately need more surgeons to fill out specialty break dancing roles when they cover outdated 2013 hip hop songs, that they think is cool and relevant, but young kids dont even know.
LMAO
Our entire city has been on lockdown (SF) since well before the rest of the nation. Supposedly because if Covid spreads, the hospitals will be overwhelmed. People are posting photos of empty hospital parking lots, and a week ago the story came out that our healthcare workers from UCSF are now flying to NY to help out there. And we’re all still on lockdown! Some think “for the next two years.” It is totally insane! An experiment in authoritarianism.
An experiment in attempting to kill us all before we find out they fuck n EAT children!
Honestly, it's like they're flaunting their power..
They love doing their evil out in the open.
Satanists believe it absolves them of karmic backlash.
Spoiler alert: It doesn't.
That is a very interesting point and would explain a lot. How did you learn about this? Is it in the Hidden Hand material?
I believe I first heard of this from Mark Passio www.whatonearthishappening.com on one of his podcasts. The thing is though, that they are probably correct in that doing so does actually negate some of the karmic consequence. In this way (as they see it) it isn't actually all their fault, because they were quite open about their intentions.
I haven't looked into the hidden hand (Illuminati whistleblower?) much as of yet.
That's what happens when power hungry lack-wits get power.
Yes. Originally this was about flattening the curve. The curve is flattened,
Now it is about no one must ever die. It is time to get America back to work!
Oooh, if we stay locked down I can live forever? Niiice!
Oh wait, I'd just starve to death and - worse - so would my children.
You won't starve to death, as you can have your groceries delivered, but you may drown in your bathtub, according to my models, so I am banning all baths until we can be sure not one person will ever drown again.
Agreed, but I have to have a job to pay (in advance!) for my groceries to be delivered which is more the point I was making. No work - no income - no food (for most people, anyway.)
You wouldn't starve to death in MN. They are giving "free" food away everywhere. But you will have to leave your house to get it. Uh-oh! Do you stay in your house and starve to death or leave your house and get the Rona Virus and die? What a dilemma! :)
I can't make that decision, it's too haaaard. Maybe someone will come tell me what I should do. If I lived in NYC Cuomo would rather I killed myself than step outside. If I lived in New Orleans, I'd be out having street parties in da hood.
lmao human 'beans' really do run the gamut, don't we...
Did you drink some stupid juice this morning?
Is he really that wrong though? The people of SF have enabled their overlords over the years and will continue to this November.
Work in Biotech and know a handful of nurses, it's all a lie. they are getting hours slashed while the hospitals lie about Wuhan Weeze cases for the 40k each GOV funds. Fucking hospital management are trash. Mostly POC and women liberal whores all
Accurate af
Don’t forget those that couldn’t do or teach. The least competent people go into managing, and once you’ve had a ‘manager’ slot, hospital administration thinks you can manage anything.
I had a fat Karen for a boss who had managed a Pediatric Med Surg floor. Some rocket scientist in administration thought she would know have no problem managing a large, busy OR. They literally gave the job to someone with no surgical experience.
I don't mind training new Residents, nurses, or scrubs in the OR but I'll be damned if I'd even try to train an OR Director on the fly, ffs.
In our OR we'd just operate without her & work past her - no time to deal with that. Luckily we have a fantastic DoN, she's an old nurse (about 75) with bleached blonde hair and blue eye shadow, smokes like a freight train and altho she's only about 5'4", she's a freakin' bulldozer.
She's always on our side when it comes to policy, but expects us to do the right thing. Everyone from orderlies to surgeons just love that old woman. She's forgotten more about nursing than most of us will ever know.
Sounds like a good boss.
That’s exactly what we did.
Good. There's no other option besides furthering the original Admin fail.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 43,000 healthcare jobs were lost in March 2020
Do you have a link for that? There is so much stuff on this website I have now idea where to look.
found it: https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf
Actually the document shows 41K are ambulatory care so it's not like they lost tons of nurses either
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/14/healthcare-job-cuts-coronavirus-worker-layoffs
Our economy has been detroyed by fear porn, escalated by idiot electeds, and bought by sheep.
The very last thing we need right now are foreign workers .. illegal or legal.
Americans FIRST
America is not alone in far-leftists using "Healthcare workers" to piggyback illegal immigrants onto. Been doing it for years.
The simple fact is health care workers from other countries come legally and through the proper channels. As they are people that respect rules in general.
Regardless, immigration legal or illegal needs to be stopped dead. Millions of Americans are out of work and many more will be out of work in the months to come.
It needs to be stopped for decades, like in the past. We've already let in orders or magnitude more than the total that came through Ellis Island in all its history. That's unacceptable.
So with all airliners idling and fuel cheap as it is, can ICE charter those planes and start deporting all illegals by tens of thousands daily?
All done under budget and ahead of schedule, of course.
Yes, excellent idea and it will help the gas industry!
From your mouth to GEOTUS' ear!
Mr. POTUS - Please Add this to your EXEC ORDER - Not only will you not allow immigration into the USA until the Virus stops, you also won't allow Immigration into the USA until ALL 23 Million American's are employed again as they were before this SCAM-DEMIC started!
Which is the same as the old normal. We are approaching the pre-1965 mass immigration perspective.
Love it!
The cabal made several moves in the 1960s.
One was to open up mass immigration.
Nice to see their war strategies getting rolled back!
Agree. And remember, it’s hard enough for Americans to get tested. We need muh tests! More testing! Send muh tests! So we don’t need one more person when our plate is full and Americans need jobs and tests.
Well i mean these ARE the same people who pushed:
...Abortion is healthcare.
...Tax cuts won't work.
...Those jobs are never coming back.
...nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.
DACA scaffolds or deportations pick one.. you have 2 days to pick.
Same with H1B. for ever 1 good, compatent Indian there are 2000 lazy useless stinking pajeets. Exterminate the H1B program, revoke all Visa overnight. Buh fucking bye. 85k americans a year have to fight against them for jobs.
I thought their solution was to get as many people off the streets as possible?
Low paying hospitals have shortages. Unless they are religious affiliated, then some work for the cause, but not many. Of course some of the metro areas like NY have had staffing shortages. This is nothing new in health care. Some seasons are just fucked. This one a little more so due to the PPE situation. PPE is a huge pain in the ass to wear. It's tiring, uncomfortable, hot, and tiring. Makes some claustrophobic. I got used to it doing a lot of procedures, but nonetheless, wearing for 8, 12, 16 hours? Nope. You lost a lot of staff hours just for that.
There's no damned shortage. Hospital censuses are down almost across the board due to people not wanting to go. No electives of course. I have a friend who is a call center nurse (hell) for one of the health-care Giants. Their call volume is even drastically lower. It was extremely high volume at the start of The Media Panic. This call center has 60-70 nurses during the daytime. Nighttime unknown to me.
We must grant amnesty to the DREAMers so we have healthcare workers to make the TikTok videos American healthcare workers just won't make.
You’re so right. lol
Obama said daca was never going to be a path to citizenship. Lets fucking enforce this shit already and get these Frijoles the fuck out of here
Lou Dobbs Pointed out a couple of nights ago that the number is 0.2%, and this article also confirms it.
That's right 0.2% of DACA recipients are part of the Healthcare system.
Wow Big Loss guys. Can't Deport them now, we'll have no nursing home abusers left. /sssssssssss
Remember the Trump Supporter Serial Killer, how much would you be willing to bet that he was a DACA recipient?
I'd bet the farm
Deport all of them, every last one of them. The United States has got to stop giving amnesty every few years. We gave amnesty in 1986, and we gave amnesty again with this DACA situation. No one gets deported anyway, except hardcore criminals. We need to start deporting every last undocumented immigrant.
DACA is a very conflicting topic to me. My gf is DACA. She's been here since she's been 6, almost 20 years now she's lived in this country. Wasn't her decision. She works full time and supports Trump much as anyone here. She's as American as any of us but some people are so restricted in their beliefs. Either one extreme view or another. We are both for ending DACA, but to deport these people who've been here their whole life, to a place where they have no home, is ridiculous and tells me people who believe that are stuck in their own bubble much like the left.
Great story, you sound like a liberal who argues with emotion instead of facts. Too bad her parents broke the law. You can either marry her or she can go back. Deportation isn't the only option. There's no reason Americans should pay to support her family who can't properly be taxed without stealing someone else's identity.
Your gf has to go back.
You've lost you're way friend.
WRONG. She isn't an american citizen.
She has to go back.
Sorry man, you're right, it is hard. Everyone has a story, everyone has a sob story. Illegal immigrants have got to go, period. We give amnesty every few years. That is why people keep coming here illegally. The problem has to be nipped in the bud.
20 years and she hasn't applied for citizenship? That's just sad.
There is no path for citizenship for DACA recipient s.
They can apply the same way everyone else from outside the country applies.
https://citizenpath.com/daca-green-card-through-marriage/
Well besides marriage.
Those kids only have their parents to blame.
How could there be a shortage of health care workers since there are nospanish speaking nurses or any one else as the have call for translations .
Most outbreak hit areas are migrant heavy. Hmmnn
What!
And give up slavery (or its modern equivalent)?
That's asking too much. /s
Some of these nurses and doctors were standing around with no patients so they decided to run out onto the road to stop traffic in their own little counter protest against the patriots protesting dictator governors. Real fucking under staffed huh neo liberals.
Aaand get ready for the inevitable court reversal if this EO. Could take years to get sorted out
Not so sure on this one.
Oh, I agree they will try.
But he's got war-time emergency powers now, so it's possible whatever they try will be reversed quickly.
This is all a cover. The real issue is bringing back USA manufacturing, restoring the domestic supply chain so as to be not so reliant on Asia and other offshore locales. High tech Asian shops mean big bucks to tech billionaires and central banks.
You spelled it wrong, it's CACA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNj_FUODOKk
When Soros and Koch team up, you know reality is broken. Throw some bibles at em, see what happens!
Who is going to mow their Operating Theaters?
Top kek.
There are 22 million American's newly out of a job: happy to learn a new job.
They expected us to believe that Russia colluded with Trump to get him elected
Then tell the Democrats to pay up for it if they want it so much. This could be solved tomorrow, but the Democrats prefer to campaign on it and kick the can down the road every single time.
Fake! They are laying off nurses because it's slow
They don’t expect us to believe, they’re speaking to their zombies.
Every foreign born nurse Ive ever worked with has been here legally. I doubt illegals can even take boards to get a nursing license. But many people in this country are stupid enough to believe this.
Even if they did, healthcare jobs are being slashed.
If this virus is SO DEADLY why haven't airports been completely shut down? That would be the fastest way to spread it. And if it's SO DEADLY why are there so many carriers without symptoms? That doesn't happen with a life-threatening virus.
We being played
Hey lay off of them!
They probably wouldn't have enough janitors to mop up the blood from all the exploding corpses!
Is there anything more blatant that leftists using coronavirus as a catch all for their agendas?
It’s Climate Change 2.0
What I have heard and I would like someone in the industry to confirm, is mostly personnel from long term care facilities or old folks home. Low pay, relatively low skill jobs. Lots of immigrants work there. In Canada, in a few cites, the armed forces were called in (medical pers) to assist as a lot of workers got either scared or infected and old people were abandonned and died in those homes - the staff got scarcer and scarcer as the caretakers got contaminated and the staff level dropped.
Good info, thanks.
These people are simply monsters who seek to destroy the US for their fantasy globalist vision of the world. Fuck them. Dont take their facts or studies or idea seriously, they mean to have you be poor and a slave.
Even if that were true, it would be an enormous problem we'd want to fix immediately. Find out who hired invaders in the first place and give them quick trials.
Medical staff are too busy making tiktok videos during this fucking hoax. Open the fucking economy already!
Did they use GoDaddy to register the domain name?
Janitors hired through 3rd party service providers under contract to the US Company. Because of discrimination laws, it would be very difficult to find out if that 3rd party hired contractor is legal to work or not. And more than likely with some basic stolen/borrowed/lent/leased paperwork, they are "legal" from the standpoint of an inquiry from an endpoint account.
I think maybe it's the food industry workers. Possibly the trucking industry as well. Just a guess.
Illegals do nothing but wipe ass in nursing homes. They have to go.
From what I've learned being on this site is that they will always aim to be right at the moment, not keeping the Truth into consideration.