If you had Russian engineers capture a Allied naval yard, you could build your own dolphins and then use the Russian bombader to strap bombs onto the dolphins. I would do a similar tactic with strapping bombs onto the attack dogs as well.
I'm sure they can swim.. The life jackets are for after the battle they will be easier to spot bobbing in the water. so recovering the bodies will be easier
I did a cruise in the Persian Gulf in the mid 90s. We once sailed through a cluster of sea snakes. I'm talking about writhing all over each other on the surface of the water, covering an area the size of a dozen football fields. they were so jam packed together that you could have walked on top of them. It was really creepy.
I guess what I'm saying is there are things in the Persian Gulf way more scary than sharks.
No, we were past it too quickly for me to go down below and grab my camera. I'll bet there's videos of this on youtube, although I haven't ever searched for it.
Yeah, pretty close to hell, that's for sure. One time we were sailing and we had to shut down all the Aircon/refrigeration on the ship because the water was too hot to cool the condensers. One of the refrigeration engineers told me it was over 100F..Luckily that only lasted a few hours.
its so fucked to think that an area that big in the ocean was just filled on top with sea snakes,, but snakes do that normally where they all find each other and breed. lol snakes and their thousands upon thousand snake orgies.
Lol Salami. Member when their beloved camel fucker got blown the fuck away and they got all butthurt and said they were going to get mega revenge on the USA and then they were too weak and cowardly to actually do anything? That was awesome.
How many of those idiots started running all over Iraq firing rockets every which way, and hitting nothing? It was like watching one long drawn out circus act.
They managed to shoot down an unarmed Ukrainian civilian airliner. So they worked up enough gumption to lash out at somebody who couldn't do shit about it.
The passengers were almost exclusively Iranian, so they just killed a bunch of college-aged Iranians heading back to Europe/Canada for school. Their grand retaliation also included the trampling of more Iranians at Soleimani's funeral.
And Coasties have a LOT more experience in dealing with small craft, watching videos of the USN engage little targets like these is enlightening in how hard it actually is to hit something 500+ yards away while both it and you are moving and being rocked by waves.
Not a good one this time. You want to read how General Paul Van Riper performed on this Pentagon war game, armed with scraps and doing swarm tactics against the big guns:
This encounter isn't the same as what happened earlier in the week. This was an engagement close to shore and we can also assume based on Van Riper's tactics that the Navy was operating under rather restrictive ROE.
I love the irony of the last two sentences:
"Of course, in a real shooting war no one can tweak the rules to preserve an American advantage. If Iran actually were to deploy Van Riper’s brutally effective tactics, it just might inflict even more damage than Van Riper’s own hamstrung forces did in their simulated, and rigged, war."
I guess the author likes to ignore the constant hamstringing that goes on in regards to US forces?
Which is effectively little more than concern trolling at this point. No one's acting like the Iranian military can't bash two rocks together to make a fire, but let's also not act like the ROE hasn't been the greatest problem with the US military in the last half-century and would likely be the source of any kind of problem in a conflict with Iran. Their gunboats have relatively short-ranged weapons and are generally only able to get into range because they're allowed to.
By making his position clear Trump is once again avoiding the U.S. from going to war! All it would have took was for one of those dingies to malfunction and crash into the side of our freedom patrols. Now they are going to stay away and admire our ships from afar! Very! Stable! Genius!
When I was in the Navy, Iran pulled alongside my cruiser in what I assume was their version of a destroyer/cutter. General Quarters were sounded and we all thought it was happening. 5 minutes later the Captain comes over the 1MC asking all hands not currently on watch topside to show them what America is made of. We go topside and the ship has the 5 inch guns pointed at the Iranian vessel. We were met topside by most of the Chiefs Mess flipping them off, mooning them, I'm pretty sure a few bros even pulled out their meat! They peeled off quickly thereafter and shut the fuck up!
Spez: happened in the Straight of Hormuz heading to the North Arabian Gulf.
ElderPede here: Hey guys, think about it, this could turn out to be a fun game.
Snipers, 50 cal, half a mile away, fiberglass boats, one shot just below the water line, 2 or 3 miles from land? Get it? The Sailers could bet on each shot? fun times.
Honestly, after the Gulf of Tonkin incident was revealed to be a false flag, this sort of schitt does concern me, but I can say that President Trump is someone I could trust to contain it. I know that he's not trying to get into a war, but to get out of them. I think he will act appropriately.
The Navy has a long ladder to climb to restore it's reputation. Two destroyer rammings, the capture of the RHIB and sailors, the TR CO mouthing off to the press, etc. etc. in recent memory.
Iraq Navy should have a death match with Somali pirates for the honor of getting killed by the US Navy later. Ayayayayayyayaaaaaa aloha snakbar where is my fuckgoat!!
Phalanx would like to have a word with salami small boat. During an exercise it shot between the space of the rear superstructure and mast, to get to the missile. (American Ticonderoga class). They are mostly meant for air targets but are fully capable of point defense toward surface targets as well.
let's shake a stick at a tiger who we accuse of having nuclear weapons.... okay maybe we better think this one through 45 is probably just flexing nut a few times before we become bros like with dear leader over in NK.
You got quite defensive without any provocation... kinda cuck'd, low-T behavior. And what you're describing is a single battle in a worst case scenario, that if caught unawares the US might lose one battle. After that battle, Iran wont have any ports for these ships to return to because their little rowboats can't defeat an air force.
Don't underestimate the swarming tactics that Iran would use. The lines of demarcation there don't always allow enemies to be seen from miles off, easy picking for a modern destroyer. US and allied ships sometimes have to casually coast a mile or two from Iranian water. A swarm of Iranian gun boats, armed with enough rockets and fanatic sailors, would eventually land some hits.
Our military doesn't maintain it's edge by downplaying every threat.
Lmao, Iran's Navy is less equipped than the Cajun Navy. Fucking bass boats with machine guns, ooooo...
Everyone is wearing a life jacket because they can't even swim. Nerds.
I agree with everything else, but anyone that gets in a small craft, especially one headed into a possible fight, should wear a life preserver.
Hard to swim when you are unconscious or have shrapnel wounds, or worse. Just sayin'
You did that in Red Alert 2 didn't you?
If you had Russian engineers capture a Allied naval yard, you could build your own dolphins and then use the Russian bombader to strap bombs onto the dolphins. I would do a similar tactic with strapping bombs onto the attack dogs as well.
Bombs on attack dogs? Something a soulless fuck would do. Sounds like the Russians and mooslims tactic.
LOL I'll just bet they wer shitting there pants hahahaha!
the most embarrassing part of the life jackets is that they are like civilian grade, it looks like they are going on a mosque-funded whale watch.
Nah, I'm pretty sure that Allah says whales are haram. Just like everything else.
False, child rape is halal.
Kid rape as well.
I see what you did there.
Kek. Btw, I went to Hellgate👌
hell yeah! Missoula doesnt make too many pedes.
I'm sure they can swim.. The life jackets are for after the battle they will be easier to spot bobbing in the water. so recovering the bodies will be easier
YOU CAN ONLY RECOVER THE TOP HALF. THE SHARKS GET THE LOWER HALF.
I did a cruise in the Persian Gulf in the mid 90s. We once sailed through a cluster of sea snakes. I'm talking about writhing all over each other on the surface of the water, covering an area the size of a dozen football fields. they were so jam packed together that you could have walked on top of them. It was really creepy.
I guess what I'm saying is there are things in the Persian Gulf way more scary than sharks.
man that would be so fucking badass to see, and creepy AF at the same time. There wouldnt happen to be any photos would there of this?
No, we were past it too quickly for me to go down below and grab my camera. I'll bet there's videos of this on youtube, although I haven't ever searched for it.
You sure you weren't sailing over the mouth of Hell?
It can't be far from there.
Yeah, pretty close to hell, that's for sure. One time we were sailing and we had to shut down all the Aircon/refrigeration on the ship because the water was too hot to cool the condensers. One of the refrigeration engineers told me it was over 100F..Luckily that only lasted a few hours.
its so fucked to think that an area that big in the ocean was just filled on top with sea snakes,, but snakes do that normally where they all find each other and breed. lol snakes and their thousands upon thousand snake orgies.
Yeah that would make my skin crawl
I'm all for chest-beating, but recognize that small boats can still ruin your day.
Especially when the moron driving it thinks that he goes to sex heaven if he dies while ramming into you.
True. It was small boats that were used to put the limpet mines on ships, what, a year ago or so.
USS Cole (DDG-67) is a good example...
And they try to tell us these are the people who invented Algebra. Yeah right.
Lol Salami. Member when their beloved camel fucker got blown the fuck away and they got all butthurt and said they were going to get mega revenge on the USA and then they were too weak and cowardly to actually do anything? That was awesome.
How many of those idiots started running all over Iraq firing rockets every which way, and hitting nothing? It was like watching one long drawn out circus act.
They managed to shoot down an unarmed Ukrainian civilian airliner. So they worked up enough gumption to lash out at somebody who couldn't do shit about it.
Thanks to Obama Ukraine is neutered
The passengers were almost exclusively Iranian, so they just killed a bunch of college-aged Iranians heading back to Europe/Canada for school. Their grand retaliation also included the trampling of more Iranians at Soleimani's funeral.
Nothing? Did nothing? How absolutely dare you sir! I remind you that the Iranians shot down their own airliner! That showed the US! Ha!
And did the US have the courage to retaliate by shooting down TWO of its own airliners? No!
Looks like Iran won that one!
Those little dinghies they have are pathetic.
We literally have at least a dozen different assets that could sink those before they even knew what hit them.
Did you just insult the Dinghies of Peace??
It's funny when you think the Navy spends more money on targets to practice against...
"Sir, are we sure we want to shoot a 100,000$ ship to surface missile at the dingy?" - First Officer
"You're right.. let's just pop it with the .22 we keep to deal with Sea Pigeons" - Captain
"Sea Pigeons?" - other guy listening in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Pigeon
What a time to be alive!
Or what a time to be killed.
Even our Coast Guard could blow those boats out of the water
And Coasties have a LOT more experience in dealing with small craft, watching videos of the USN engage little targets like these is enlightening in how hard it actually is to hit something 500+ yards away while both it and you are moving and being rocked by waves.
Lemme just dust off the USS New Jersey...
Or an A10 Warthog.
That can also be arranged, there is a CIWS that uses the GAU-8 cannon.
Probably outside the Hogs range on this one. It's okay there plenty of other brrrrtttt to go around.
Imagine those 16 inchers firing modern sabot hyper velocity rounds.... Could probably reach out to 100 miles
I would hope so. Coast Guard is the last line of defense from an inland invasion.
Say hello to our little fren the Phalanx gun...BRRRR.....thats all it would take...Just ...BRRRR
Iran navy: our elite small craft will leave your navy in great fear!
USA navy: R2D2 go brrrrrrrrrr
Also Bushmaster go CHUNKCHUNK and M2 go bopbopbopbop
Turn those chumps into chum
So chop in half?
When I saw the news about them "harassing" our fleet literally laughed out loud. Does the lion give any regard to the fly?
Iran, come get some BITCH!!!!
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
Don't bring a *spoon to a gun fight. FTFY
I see you’ve played spooney knifey before
This is an upscale version of trap shooting ...PULL!!!!
Of course our bois win!
Now, if you played any real amount of Eve Online, you know that a small, fast ship can take down a larger, slower ship.
Explains why time has slowed down so much since The Silent Trump War began.
Not a good one this time. You want to read how General Paul Van Riper performed on this Pentagon war game, armed with scraps and doing swarm tactics against the big guns:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2002-us-military-conducted-iran-war-simulation-iran-won-82906
Does this imply that the Iranian bots are a powerful force? No. But it does say that you're well off not underestimating your enemies.
This encounter isn't the same as what happened earlier in the week. This was an engagement close to shore and we can also assume based on Van Riper's tactics that the Navy was operating under rather restrictive ROE.
I love the irony of the last two sentences:
"Of course, in a real shooting war no one can tweak the rules to preserve an American advantage. If Iran actually were to deploy Van Riper’s brutally effective tactics, it just might inflict even more damage than Van Riper’s own hamstrung forces did in their simulated, and rigged, war."
I guess the author likes to ignore the constant hamstringing that goes on in regards to US forces?
"This encounter isn't the same as what happened earlier in the week."
Well yes, of course. I didn't imply that at all. It's just what I wrote at the end - doesn't pay to underestimate your enemies.
Which is effectively little more than concern trolling at this point. No one's acting like the Iranian military can't bash two rocks together to make a fire, but let's also not act like the ROE hasn't been the greatest problem with the US military in the last half-century and would likely be the source of any kind of problem in a conflict with Iran. Their gunboats have relatively short-ranged weapons and are generally only able to get into range because they're allowed to.
LOL, The LAZER!
Try that shit where you take one of our boats hostage again. You know they won't because we have a leader with balls now.
No contest.
Can you imagine if Iran took a US ship hostage during President Trumps run? It would be the "nation formerly known as Iran"
Freedom Patrol has lazers?! NICE
sorry bois, no salamis. its Ramadan. Oh wait, sorry bois, its haram.
By making his position clear Trump is once again avoiding the U.S. from going to war! All it would have took was for one of those dingies to malfunction and crash into the side of our freedom patrols. Now they are going to stay away and admire our ships from afar! Very! Stable! Genius!
"Look at me. I'm the President now." U.S.: Laughs in .50 cannon
I love this! Lmao they’re like Somali pirates- pathetic! Pray to allah for this one goat fuckers
To Iran : Fuck around and find out!
Ready the five inch gun!
God I miss The Last Ship, if only for how much its very existence triggered libs.
Just throw pork at them that will do the trick! Lmao
When I was in the Navy, Iran pulled alongside my cruiser in what I assume was their version of a destroyer/cutter. General Quarters were sounded and we all thought it was happening. 5 minutes later the Captain comes over the 1MC asking all hands not currently on watch topside to show them what America is made of. We go topside and the ship has the 5 inch guns pointed at the Iranian vessel. We were met topside by most of the Chiefs Mess flipping them off, mooning them, I'm pretty sure a few bros even pulled out their meat! They peeled off quickly thereafter and shut the fuck up!
Spez: happened in the Straight of Hormuz heading to the North Arabian Gulf.
Shoht em DOWN!
Deep six!
NAVY!
(You wouldn't think I was partisan or anything... GO NAVY!)
Shoot em down
ElderPede here: Hey guys, think about it, this could turn out to be a fun game. Snipers, 50 cal, half a mile away, fiberglass boats, one shot just below the water line, 2 or 3 miles from land? Get it? The Sailers could bet on each shot? fun times.
Too soon? ...KAG!
It's really too bad that lasers are actually completely invisible to human eyes. Those guys would just start melting.
Honestly, after the Gulf of Tonkin incident was revealed to be a false flag, this sort of schitt does concern me, but I can say that President Trump is someone I could trust to contain it. I know that he's not trying to get into a war, but to get out of them. I think he will act appropriately.
Jump Frog
Ok, in real life, what do they pretend those "launchers" are for? Smoke?
A 500 "Dingy" swarm can do damage.
They better shoot anything with an Iranian flag that gets inside their protective zone.
Ponga
How about bagel bois vs Liberty patrol?
TrUmP iS StaRtInG Ww3!!
Say hello to my li'l fren!
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!
The Navy has a long ladder to climb to restore it's reputation. Two destroyer rammings, the capture of the RHIB and sailors, the TR CO mouthing off to the press, etc. etc. in recent memory.
The state of our Navy is disgraceful.
In for the hilarious Sea Whizz and Mk 38 videos chopping salami bois.
Iraq Navy should have a death match with Somali pirates for the honor of getting killed by the US Navy later. Ayayayayayyayaaaaaa aloha snakbar where is my fuckgoat!!
Their boats are made by Playskool
Just average private watercraft with guns and rockets bolted on.. no problem A few 50 cal tracers will light those fiberglass coffins up real quick...
Phalanx would like to have a word with salami small boat. During an exercise it shot between the space of the rear superstructure and mast, to get to the missile. (American Ticonderoga class). They are mostly meant for air targets but are fully capable of point defense toward surface targets as well.
Target practice.
let's shake a stick at a tiger who we accuse of having nuclear weapons.... okay maybe we better think this one through 45 is probably just flexing nut a few times before we become bros like with dear leader over in NK.
You got quite defensive without any provocation... kinda cuck'd, low-T behavior. And what you're describing is a single battle in a worst case scenario, that if caught unawares the US might lose one battle. After that battle, Iran wont have any ports for these ships to return to because their little rowboats can't defeat an air force.
You sound like that bitch-faggot Joe Biden.
lmao, that's the gayest comeback I've ever seen posted on this site.
Dude, no one asked you how small your penis is. tmi
America's navy is kind of trash. We let attacks on ships like the USS Liberty go unpunished.
Don't underestimate the swarming tactics that Iran would use. The lines of demarcation there don't always allow enemies to be seen from miles off, easy picking for a modern destroyer. US and allied ships sometimes have to casually coast a mile or two from Iranian water. A swarm of Iranian gun boats, armed with enough rockets and fanatic sailors, would eventually land some hits.
Our military doesn't maintain it's edge by downplaying every threat.