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CQVFEFE 15 points ago +17 / -2

When has it ever NOT been the policy of the US Navy, really, to fire against any attacking or threatening enemy?

Something seems off

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PoohClimbsTrees 55 points ago +56 / -1

When Obama was in charge.

He let them take U.S. soldiers hostage.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-boats-idUSKCN0UW1Q7

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IncredibleMrE1 31 points ago +32 / -1

Um, 0bama let them do it for eight years without any repercussions, and gave them $150 billion to boot.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/01/13/10-sailors-detained-in-iran-returned-to-us-navy.html

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OKPoohmer 10 points ago +10 / -0

How much money (CASH) was sent to IRAN?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-paid-iran-1-3b-two-days-after-400m-cash-transfer📁

Who controls the distribution of funds?

Who accounts for the funds?

Who has access to the funds?

Who ‘really’ has access to the funds?

Do funds return in the form of political donations?

Do funds return in the form of massive donations to ‘FOUNDATIONS’ and/or ‘INSTITUTES’?

Do funds return in the form of offshore bank accounts for future payments/payoffs?

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Ithrowawaay 4 points ago +4 / -0

The ultimate cuck.

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CQVFEFE 4 points ago +5 / -1

That was never the policy of the US Navy, that was the policy of the traitor I have named Foebama.

A foreign communist operative executing a plan to dismantle and destroy the United States.

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preferredfault 4 points ago +4 / -0

Countries like Iran and China, provoke US ships but in ways they know won't illicit an offensive response. They'll for example, play chicken and stray right into the obvious travel path of US ships and force US ships to change course to avoid potential collision, even if the Iranian vessel was going to move at the last moment anyways. And with the size/weight of ships, there is lag time between movements happening, so a miscalculation on either ships part, can result in an unintended collision.

But the problem with this tactic is that it also allows Iranian vessels to herd US ships in the direction they want, which could be used in a surprise attack or diversion, so it's just bad policy. As long as they know we'll move, they can plan attacks around it.

And Iranian ships regularly do this to vessels in the region. If a collision were to happen and a US ship were to be damaged or sink, it would be very costly for us, while Iran might lose a cheap boat. Then you have to salvage and hope information/hardware from the ship doesn't fall into enemy hands, you have to keep a large presence there to guard the damaged ship, etc. Very costly.

Given Iran's behavior, it's time things have changed.

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unable_afternoon 3 points ago +3 / -0

USS liberty incident