It's a packaging and supply chain issue. Eggs are bought in packs of 3 dozen, milk is delivered in large plastic bags, not cartons or jugs for restaurant industry supply. Most of these stories you hear are from people that supply the restaurant and food service industry. They do not have the means or tools to restructure their packaging. No restaurants, no need for bulk mass supply.
Right, they are sold in bulk. But why couldnt bulk stores like Costco or Sam's Club sell them? It wouldnt cover all the bulk. But it could help even a little bit. While they cant change their supply system that fast. Couldnt they try and sell some to consumers? I think it has to do with some government regulations blocking it.
we can stop on a dime to make a gorillion ventilators, but we can't repackage eggs?!?! GTFOH widdat shit, amirite? The idea that this is a packaging problem is a fucked up way of just kicking the can down the road and saying "this is no ones fault really"... you bet your ass this is someones fault!!
Why would a company waste millions of dollars to convert their factory for a few weeks because a bunch of retarded governors fucked them, and then when things open again waste even more time and money going back to how things were before. In the grand scheme of things this is a short term issue and the best thing for bulk packagers is to just wait for things to reopen, and not burn a bunch of cash chasing all these massive, government induced changes in demand. While that happens, some products are going to have weird supply/demand mismatches
You are assuming they arent trying to retool. They very well may be trying to, it just takes longer for them. Or more likely government is involved and they would rather waste it and not get hit with lawsuits if things go wrong.
Welp, if you look at the thread and how fast the post gained traction, I guess you could consider this the beginnings of the public putting pressure on the egg people to clear up this little mystery. People aint gonna put up with this bullshit for long.
The problem is there are only so many people doing the packaging and they’re all overwhelmed with orders right now. Food manufacturers don’t product their own packaging.
Do you want to buy a 5 gallon plastic bag of milk? It's all they have to put it in. They do not have jugs or cartons. I totally get what you are saying though.
I'm perfectly capable of refilling gallon jugs on my own, and I wouldn't mind having bulk milk for hobby cheese-making (queue "I was a humble cheesemaker" copypasta)
Personally, we go through 3 gallons a week. So I may consider it. However, just because you or I wouldnt doesn't mean others wouldnt. And given the circumstances, I think some would, just to help. A lot of restaurants near me are getting support, only so that they survive (the foods kinda sucks).
It’s the 6gallon bibs that you speak of that are unavailable. They are not shutting down production lines to keep this product active, they are 95% focused on retail right now.... which is affecting other things like the availability of non-fat milk because there isn’t enough volume for heavy cream right now.
The dramatic shift from food service to retail is massive and nobody is ready for it. Couple this with the fact that many plants are shitting down and those that are operational are enforcing mandatory spacing and accordingly production itself has been cut in half as well.
It’s a very serious situation right now and the next 3-5 weeks are going to be very difficult, especially for beef.
Source: corporate advisor for one of the largest food service companies on earth.
Perhaps you misread me. The restaurant food are packaged. They dont put milk are scrambled eggs in open containers. They are bagged. The difference is the type of packaging. Consumers get one type and restaurants another. The restaurant packaging maybe more fragile which is why they wont sell it to consumers?
Other way around. Retail packaging is less sturdy than food service packing. But the problem is that the food service lines are maxed out and they can’t produce more packaging. Instead they have excess food service packaging with greatly diminished demand for it.
It's a packaging and supply chain issue. Eggs are bought in packs of 3 dozen, milk is delivered in large plastic bags, not cartons or jugs for restaurant industry supply. Most of these stories you hear are from people that supply the restaurant and food service industry. They do not have the means or tools to restructure their packaging. No restaurants, no need for bulk mass supply.
Right, they are sold in bulk. But why couldnt bulk stores like Costco or Sam's Club sell them? It wouldnt cover all the bulk. But it could help even a little bit. While they cant change their supply system that fast. Couldnt they try and sell some to consumers? I think it has to do with some government regulations blocking it.
we can stop on a dime to make a gorillion ventilators, but we can't repackage eggs?!?! GTFOH widdat shit, amirite? The idea that this is a packaging problem is a fucked up way of just kicking the can down the road and saying "this is no ones fault really"... you bet your ass this is someones fault!!
so.... your argument is that packaging is harder than ventilators. got it.
Why would a company waste millions of dollars to convert their factory for a few weeks because a bunch of retarded governors fucked them, and then when things open again waste even more time and money going back to how things were before. In the grand scheme of things this is a short term issue and the best thing for bulk packagers is to just wait for things to reopen, and not burn a bunch of cash chasing all these massive, government induced changes in demand. While that happens, some products are going to have weird supply/demand mismatches
You are assuming they arent trying to retool. They very well may be trying to, it just takes longer for them. Or more likely government is involved and they would rather waste it and not get hit with lawsuits if things go wrong.
Welp, if you look at the thread and how fast the post gained traction, I guess you could consider this the beginnings of the public putting pressure on the egg people to clear up this little mystery. People aint gonna put up with this bullshit for long.
The problem is there are only so many people doing the packaging and they’re all overwhelmed with orders right now. Food manufacturers don’t product their own packaging.
Do you want to buy a 5 gallon plastic bag of milk? It's all they have to put it in. They do not have jugs or cartons. I totally get what you are saying though.
Yes, I'll buy a 5 gallon plastic bag of milk.
I'm perfectly capable of refilling gallon jugs on my own, and I wouldn't mind having bulk milk for hobby cheese-making (queue "I was a humble cheesemaker" copypasta)
Personally, we go through 3 gallons a week. So I may consider it. However, just because you or I wouldnt doesn't mean others wouldnt. And given the circumstances, I think some would, just to help. A lot of restaurants near me are getting support, only so that they survive (the foods kinda sucks).
It’s the 6gallon bibs that you speak of that are unavailable. They are not shutting down production lines to keep this product active, they are 95% focused on retail right now.... which is affecting other things like the availability of non-fat milk because there isn’t enough volume for heavy cream right now.
The dramatic shift from food service to retail is massive and nobody is ready for it. Couple this with the fact that many plants are shitting down and those that are operational are enforcing mandatory spacing and accordingly production itself has been cut in half as well.
It’s a very serious situation right now and the next 3-5 weeks are going to be very difficult, especially for beef.
Source: corporate advisor for one of the largest food service companies on earth.
Perhaps you misread me. The restaurant food are packaged. They dont put milk are scrambled eggs in open containers. They are bagged. The difference is the type of packaging. Consumers get one type and restaurants another. The restaurant packaging maybe more fragile which is why they wont sell it to consumers?
I'd buy a bag of milk. Don't the goofball Canadians do that anyway?
Other way around. Retail packaging is less sturdy than food service packing. But the problem is that the food service lines are maxed out and they can’t produce more packaging. Instead they have excess food service packaging with greatly diminished demand for it.