<----- Number of people who want to see Blue States file for bankruptcy instead of getting a bailout from the Feds
DRAIN THE SWAMP
The plan was to spend your tax dollars importing illegal voters and have their treasuries replenished by using the 2020 Census.
This virus derailed those plans, which have resorted to Governors asking their Senators to sponsor legislation to bailout State & Local governments for their years & years of budget mismanagement.
NO NO NO to bailouts. Let them rot in bankruptcy ....AND LOWER YOUR FUCKING TAXES!!!
...And a Federally-appointed manager to audit and appropriate all revenue.
Non negotiable
Close the IRS, why do we paY them to steal from us
Ever looked up cities in agenda 21? My little town of martinez sends money to africa. We just got the highest tax rate in the country and an oil refinery 2 blocks away, sure send them some tax dollars ya sorry fucks
I'm Witchoo ..Fuck Cuomo And His Wanna Be Police State
MN here, absolutely on board too
You're the captain of your ship and your soul. If you know what you want, go get it. Make MA great again. I missed Friday's MN protest, but if there's another one, I'm absolutely going.
Well Facebook shut down protest organizations. There might have been an attempt for all we know
I hope so too. Cocksuckers have to be accountable, we live in interesting times with GEOTUS at the helm.
With people like you locked to blue cities, I'm reminded of the the recent UK election, where conservatives (R) flipped labor (democrat) strongholds that had been democrat controlled since 1930. It was the equivalent of Trump pulling 90-100 million votes, Hillary pulling like 40 million. It was more than double whatever UK dems had.
Nobody was awake in 2016. I wasn't. I didnt even vote. Lol. The tides are changing. Ive never heard "I was Republican, but flipped to Democrat cuz they were making a lot of sense" EVER. But Ive lost count of the #walkaway and blue-to-red stories Ive come across in the last 18 months.
Hey man peoples republic on mass ave is a killer bar! I’d bet you got more in common w/ their bar tenders than almost any old asshole in Cambridge.
We’re going to have to post it here.
Red state pede checking in - all of our major cities are sanctuary cities, with cucked and corrupt mayors and city councilmen.
Lt. Gov apparently has more authority than the governor, but said cities are straight up giving tax dollars by the millions to illegals, and have for years.
Businesses that have been here for more than have a century have been shutting down LONG BEFORE the virus hoax, and people that have lived in places for generations have to sell their homes and RENT because of property taxes.
The top down has been playing softball politics and not gutting the bullshit for far too long.
Cries in Texas
State Police scandal? Whatsup fellow masshole!
I'm living in one and fully support this. They need to clean house top to bottom. Stop raping the citizens.
I live in one of those blue states & I want mine to go belly up. It's only a matter of time anyway. The way they spend money that they don't have is a cancer on this Republic.
They have sky high taxes and still don't manage their money. SCREW THEM.
Oh they manage it just fine! They "manage" your money all the way to their political cronies.
Giving u 1000 upvotes
These blue states (I'm in Michigan) are going to have to pay the price if they insist on hurting their own economies. Knowing this fact will hopefully make more people serious about protesting/recalling these scumbag governors
Don't any of you fucking dare send money to my home state of Illinois. Let us suffer. We deserve all of it for literally a century of mismanagement, crooked politicians, and voting for the same morons over and over that lined their pockets and gave lavish contacts to their friends' and familie's construction companies, while all of the taxpayers suffered and dealt with an ever growing debt and an ever shrinking sector of actual services
They need to file for bankruptcy. This is a long time coming, especially with they way these pension funds are being invested. The place where they are being invested is in China.
It's like these fucking idiots in government forgot that they need people working and paying taxes in order to fund their stupid shit.
It gives you an idea of how much money the fuckers where stealing from us.
Except for those promised money from Pelosi. Oops, looks like a misstep fro. The tards
They were too busy playing dictator.
More than a few states are walking dead right now. Unfunded public employee pension liabilities exceed any possible revenue projections. Most of these impossible union contracts were negotiated by Dem politicians in exchange for votes. Liberal judges have uniformly rejected attempts to renegotiate the burden.
Well they'll have to raise taxes in their own state then.
This CV thing has just become a freaking clearinghouse for leftist ideas and panic. It's like we've got a stew going and the Dems just keep bringing over plates of shit to see if we'll let them throw it in.
Now the cities are going to go bankrupt..... because of the last 5 weeks? Bullshit. The books are in tatters to begin win and this is a convenient dumping ground of bad decisions.
If the public pensions had to play by the same rules the private did, they would be dead already. If a private pension/fund did what the public funds are allowed to do, the managers would all be in jail.
I ain't prejudice... I don't care what color the state is...
NO MORE FUCKING BAILOUTS... not STATES... not BANKS... not AIR LINES... not CAR COMPANIES... not WHORE HOUSES...
uhh...
well... maybe SOME bail outs...
I live in one and completely agree with this approach.
From 2016 not sure how that works?
So poorly managed states just walk away from their bad decisions?
I mean, bankruptcy is for protection from creditors (no one knows this better than GEOTUS and that's not a slam against) but if the Federal government is being forced into decades of deeper debt by printing trillions of dollars of future money, is it right to let states not share in that burden?
It's the old school Ron Paul Libertarian coming out of me. Not to be confused with the idiot current version of the party.
Whoa there fat, when you declare bankruptcy, there be some serious penalties levied on ya for sure.
i.e. Divorce.
Make Illinois and the other broke a** states file for bankruptcy and reorganize.
why should they be allowed to run a muck, then ask the rest of us to pay. What for their stupidity. I dont f think so ass holes. You wanted your style, now f live with it. F U and the horse you rod in on. Ass hole the lot of them.
FUCk. The democrat run shit hole states let them go bankrupt . Let their piece of shit governments explain how the taxes that were collected paid to feed and house those illegals they imported and how it helped them to get that vacation home on the lake along with that cute little sports car little Jimmy needed. They misused that money now let them sink. For to long the working people have worked their asses off to pay the increasing taxes year after year to find out when they needed help all they got was a FFUCkYOU FROM THE GOVERMENT. Look at the states run by Democrats and what do you find. SHIT HOLES. Pelosi and the rest of her comrades such. Ass hole coconut for brains they have no damn clue of what is going on in the world. And sorry to say this but can bet you a dollar If either of these twits were infected they would have an antidote for it with in 24 hours. SO I SAY TO CONGRESS BOTH PARTS GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND GET BACK TO WORK IN WASHINGTON. YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS. AND IF YOU DIDISAGREE THAN I SAY LONG LIVE EMPEROR TRUMP LONG LIVE THE KING GOD BLESS THE KING DONALD J TRUMP
No need to dream, just move to Puerto Rico. Very low cost of living, and it's great place for people who are self sufficient.
I live in one of these "states". How's Tennessee? Thinking of moving.
Thank you, that's a ton of good information. I'm coming from Illinois, used to live by Chicago moved to the country on a farm and want to move to a more free state. I am an engineer but would like a job and live on say 5 acres somewhere and build my homestead. Opinions?
Good info pede, had no idea the UN was dumping refugees in - that has been going on in Texas too.
We had been importing them by the thousands right before all of this virus hoax took off - here in Texas.
My instincts said something majorly screwy was going on.
Abbot isn't a Republican - he's an old school Democrat with an R next to him, just like Rick Perry. Yet "conservative" Texans kept voting for Pretty Ricky, even after he switched from D to R. He was even quoted as how he will still vote as a Democrat even though he has and R next to his name. Voted for Psycho George (aka George Bush) for governor for years too...
Yet the "conservative Christian" Texans kept voting for these people for decades, ignored Ron Paul and other Liberty canidates for the State House to vote for these types, and think Texas has always been "conservative" - right, sure.
People would vote for a glass of water if the media pushed the Overton window thinking old school Democrats (by their voting and mentality) are now called Republicans by name only, over "unelectable" Liberty Republicans.
People in this state have a very odd memory, including a lot of pedes here.
Here's the deal...
Texas has ALWAYS been a Democratic state (look at the list of all former govenors amd party affiliation), where as California is full on socialist, and has been for years.
Pedes scared of Texas turning purple - it's been that way, we're moving from our classical democrat ways to socalist.
We need pedes in Nevada before it's lost forever.
Yep. A pension deficit of even 10-15 years wouldn't cause statewide bankruptcy unless there was also serious budgetary mismanagement elsewhere.
Y’all need to read the 16th amendment, cause that’s what’s fucking everything up right now. That’s why states need bailouts.
Woodrow Wilson is the worst president in the history of the US.
He even said himself how he sold out his country and "felt bad".
I'm sure he did, genuinely, but the man went to his grave knowing he made generations of financial slaves by putting in The Fed.
why was this never a thing in the past? You can't breed idiots if there is no money to breed them.
What even happens when a state goes bankrupt?
I would assume the States would follow similar procedures that the City of Detroit did 7 years ago.
As a trump supporter who unfortunately lives in a blue state that has a civil service job and a city pension to worry about for his family's future. I am torn.
Don't bail out my state of NJ!
Nevada needs to go bust if they do t listen. Teach this fucking commie government a lesson. Run by people who never really did anything g of value for the world and are big wasters.
I'd rather see them turn their states around instead of being beholden to Union interests and pensions. At some point, someone is going to have to pay
My state doesn't have an immigrant problem. It's more a white trash welfare problem paired with a glut of bureaucratic bloat. There's a bunch of administrators getting paid 6 figures to run out schools at the highest cost per pupil. But they have no clue what they're doing. Then there's probably more leaches than any other state. After having an extremely high tax burdens, our roads are a mess and our state colleges are wildly underfunded. Everyone I know, including hardcore Democrats, agree. Guess that state? Some sort of bankruptcy would force their hands to address that. But it would take a decade to be right back at square one.
He says his state doesn't have an immigrant problem and you fucking guess it was California?
lmao
That's like if he said "my country doesn't have a muslim problem" and you guess he's talking about France.
Cali pede. Yeah, go for it. Fuck 93% of people here
There’s no point in running things efficiently if you can get bailed out Everytime. It’s like that kid in school who keeps getting in trouble but his parents keep bailing him out.
If they do pass a bankruptcy law, part of the law should be that new administration is voted in and nobody is safe from being fired.
Chicago here. Don't bailout shit. They mismanaged it for decades. Governor now wants a tax hike. Most of us here won't even fill out the census anymore. Why comply to their tax scams and endless corruption
This wasn't even about blue states, Mitch was talking about all states. But it was only blue states asking for money so they got mad and said it was only about them.
As a former blue-state prisoner, I just want to say this:
Muck Fassachusetts!!!
Will never happen but would be great. In short, if you are a creditor to a state, I bet it was fun while they were paying. Probably nice contracts, maybe nice kickbacks too! But then they don't pay up and now you have to reconsider selling to them.
This was a naive view, but it is part of what bankruptcy means.
I say bail them out but only if they ammend their state constitutions to accept voter ID, deportation of illegals, banning abortion, etc. 🤣 and right to work!!
Fuck Peter King! I am behind Cocain Mitch all the way on this.
No to Bankruptcy. And Hard No to bailouts to specific states. Bailout money, if any, should be proportional or not at all.
Not at all
Absolutely under no circumstance should we bail out states for the virus. Their failed readiness operations is on their state, not every American Taxpayer. Not to mention the fact they're inflating their numbers in the hopes they get extra cash. We all know they Inflated the numbers so the handouts can go to their pet projects.
No way.
I live in NY and have parents who worked their whole life to retire comfortably. Paid into social security. Voted red locally and nationally. And a huge part of that retirement savings is in NY State Municipal bonds. My wife is a NYC teacher who has a union pension. If the state goes bankrupt we lose everything.
New York isn’t just NYC and there are millions of good people who will be ruined if the state defaults.
I hope this is Mitch calling Cuomo’s bluff. If not, it’s a terribly immoral thing to do to working class people, regardless of their political affiliation.
The millions of good people should leave the state and move into red States. Liberals states are shit and expensive
It’s not that easy. I have roots here. Elderly parents and kids in school. Also, a career within an industry grounded in Manhattan. Applying a broad-stroke generalization at a state level is not only short-sighted, it’s dangerous. The last time states had to choose sides things ended up very badly for all Americans.
We have republican congressman in NY. And republican support for those leaders. To label the entire state as ‘shit’ in support of the notion it go bankrupt is beyond dumb.