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CA-Patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

oh yea? Well, Trump will do double the damage this time...

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fumbl3 2 points ago +2 / -0

This guy navies.

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sneedwt 6 points ago +6 / -0

Best Meme I've seen in a while!

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Brynjolf-of-Riften 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's what they get for fucking with Sammy B. That name has a history in the Navy.

Battle off Samar.

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byteplumber 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ronaldus Maximus

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WinstonSmith1984 -5 points ago +1 / -6

I don't seem to recall this; did the Iranian Navy consist of two airliners?

Serious question though; I don't recall doing much to the Iranian Navy at all; we certainly didn't sink the patrol boats that were shooting at the Vincennes earlier in the day

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d_bokk 6 points ago +7 / -1

Your recollection is as bad as Comey's. Operation Praying Mantis.

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting (the recollection part). I remember the Roberts; we studied that, and all the remaining takeaways 30 years later are defensive in nature.

I recall attacking the oil platforms, but nothing at all about the action against the real ships (frigates). One would think CSO school in the early 90's would have focused on the Offensive activities in the recent past, but the only actual combat things I remember from classroom were the Defensive actions for Stark and the Samuel B Roberts.

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d_bokk 1 point ago +1 / -0

So they only taught you the anti-American propaganda about shooting down airliners, you say? No wonder we have so many Vindmans and Croziers in the military...

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

As I said, it could be faulty memory. This wasn't a political or history class. I graduated first in both Combat Systems Officer class and AEGIS combat systems class (can't recall the actual class name) in the early 90's.

To paraphrase another response thread, maybe sinking a bunch of raghead boats was a "dog bites man" story that didn't leave an impression, but cautionary tales about big holes in ships like the Stark and the Roberts did.

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pmmeyourproblemsolva 4 points ago +4 / -0

You know, I can really appreciate the irony that someone with a name like WinstonSmith1984 would have a one sided view of history completely leaving out important events. I really hope that was part of the joke you were making.

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

See my response to other guy. I literally have no recollection of sinking a frigate. I remember the Roberts and oil platforms.

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pmmeyourproblemsolva 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting (the recollection part). I remember the Roberts; we studied that, and all the remaining takeaways 30 years later are defensive in nature.

I recall attacking the oil platforms, but nothing at all about the action against the real ships (frigates). One would think CSO school in the early 90's would have focused on the Offensive activities in the recent past, but the only actual combat things I remember from classroom were the Defensive actions for Stark and the Samuel B Roberts.

Interesting, I don't know, I was a little kid, so anything before Operation Desert Shield I have to look up because I was too busy eating crayons and licking windows to pay attention. Maybe the whole thing was downplayed at the time.

Memory is a strange thing mang, I read a study once suggesting each time we remember something, we don't draw on the same memories, but we remember the last time we remember it, crazy to think our own brains play the telephone game with themselves.

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've read that about memory as well, and it is a bit disconcerting.

It's really shocking to me that i didn't remember that (and still have no recollection of studying it). I can remember being in the classroom when one of our instructors described the actions the Stark took (he was on it) when the missile was inbound. Maybe the personal nature of the narration left a deeper impression.

Maybe too, psychologically, we "knew" we could kick anybody's ass back then, so "sank some raghead patrol boats and a frigate" was like "water is wet" whereas holes in our ships a la Stark and Roberts was of concern.