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conservativefrank 7 points ago +9 / -2

"I mean libertarian in the sense that the government should do the minimum necessary to provide a stable framework for living and commerce, and then fuck off and leave people alone. "

That's Conservative.

Trying to force people,to worship a certain way isn't part of Conservative thought. Leaving people alone to do what they want - including worship as they want - is Conservative. Forcing religion on people is leftists, authoritarian, not Conservative.

The fact that you misrepresented Conservative proves my point that liberaltarians hijack Conservative ideals while pretending Conservatives don't hold those ideals.

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AdAstraPerAspera 1 point ago +1 / -0

This makes me cringe because it's conservatives that always had the morals and liberals always just defined themselves through opposition to them (liberals don't have morals / principles, only a worship of political expediency).

I'm not saying that you are wrong that many people think that way now. I'm saying it makes me fucking cringe because it's so inaccurate.