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Fadedglory 32 points ago +33 / -1

Gotta have Zinc .

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fazzman23 20 points ago +20 / -0

they also didnt use the anti bacterial in 80% of them. lol

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slickrock 19 points ago +20 / -1

They knew Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore. When they conducted this survey, they murdered the patients that did not receive the essential component, zinc sulfate, in an effort to produce propaganda against HCA. Prosecute them, too!

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tchouk 10 points ago +10 / -0

That's what Dr. Zelenko said, but that's just his theory and it isn't really proven by the facts. Dr. Zelenko completely fails to understand that Azithromycin by itself is not just a simple antibiotic that is given just against bacteria.

Zelenko didn't read the literature and doesn't know that Zpack is -- again by itself -- also a proposed treatment for COVID (Gautret, 2020) with in vitro efficacy (Andreani, 2020).

The key is both the HCQ and Zpack, which both work against the virus separately, but much better when given together due to some unknown synergistic effect. Zinc may help, but it's not the key.

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bombthrowinggenius 2 points ago +2 / -0

I noticed you keep posting everywhere downplaying the importance of zinc. Hydroxychloroquine transports zinc across cell membranes so it is vital. The reason the VA study look bad is because they extracted a specific demographic that down regulates zinc. People of African origin down regulate zinc because Africas water is/was mineral rich. This VA study looked at primarily African American men over the age of 65 pct. Zelenko is also saying these drugs should be used as a prophylactic to be more effective where as most of the administration in the VA cases is when symptoms were already evident.

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tchouk 1 point ago +1 / -0

My point was that the results of just the HCQ and Azythromicin are phenomenal by themselves when given early enough.

Meaning that Dr. Zelenko is wrong about Azythromicin being an afterthought given for bacterial complications. And there are studies that show this, and the synergistic effect of the two medicines.

Now the added zinc may help, I'm not saying it doesn't, especially in those who have a deficiency. I'm all for giving it. But saying that it is the key ingredient because "Hydroxychloroquine transports zinc across cell membranes" (which is just Dr. Zelenko's theory on how this works) is just plain not true.

The key ingredients are HCQ+Zpack which may or may not be modulated by the zinc.

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Sumsuch 17 points ago +18 / -1

This is literally starting to sound like the plot from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

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Choctaw [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

hah, yah nice reference

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NavyGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

So funny... I was just watching that.

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Myaccount 7 points ago +7 / -0

Nice find

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unmaskedpanda 5 points ago +5 / -0

What?!?! A moral hazard in medical research? Never.

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Mrsattorney 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's also important to note that hydroxychloroquine was not administered to patients until after they were intubated, so the results were not unexpected. The hydroxychloroquine/Zpak/zinc should have been given to patients much earlier.

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Oppoboycott 2 points ago +2 / -0

Total joke of a study. My only question is how could you make it any worse

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RohdKill_PA71 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gilead like in the show "The Maidens Tale"? ... starting to make sense now...

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Trumpdidit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Considering this drug has been in existence for 50 years, for treating Malaria, and Lupus, If I contract this virus, I want HCQ as a medicine to take, for my cure.

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Americanism 1 point ago +1 / -0

When they do a study and dont include zinc or even vitamin C we must assume they are serious about ruining the economy, killing as many as they can, and destroying our movement.

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idkfa 1 point ago +1 / -0

The most telling thing fact that should stop any further discussion: the "study" does not mention the dosage for either drug. This omission is breathtakingly egregious.