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erefernow 24 points ago +26 / -2

The patients were being treated as though they had pneumonia type infection, even though the lung scans were atypical of pneumonia. What is is actually happening is that the disease causes blood coagulation, which in the lungs shows up as the "ground glass opacity". Think of thousands of tiny clots in the lungs preventing the flow of freshly oxygenated blood to the rest of the body. Doesn't much matter how much O2 is pumped into the lungs if the blood can't pick it up and move it to where it needs to go.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 6 points ago +7 / -1

I think his comment was referring the pulmonary alveoli, where gas exchange occurs between the air and blood:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_alveolus

But, I don't think it's accurate to call it "coagulation":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-glass_opacity

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Oback_Barama 10 points ago +10 / -0

I've seen some stories that anti-coagulants were effective in treating patients in this state.

Its sad, because despite the fact that this is new and nothing was ever PROVEN to work, the media call Gov. Party Nipples a hero for screaming about how he needs more ventilators, but demonizes the GEOTUS (and the drug) for saying HCQ seems to show some promise.

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Southern_Belle 3 points ago +5 / -2

Coagulation, hunh?

Someone with more medical knowledge than I have should compare this thing to the pneumonic plague.

There was a plague outbreak in China in November.

Could the coronavirus be a type of pneumonic plague?

President Trump did call it a plague.

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ShalomRPh 4 points ago +4 / -0

Plague is bacterial, though, not viral.

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Rickkybobby 3 points ago +3 / -0

The plague is actually endemic to the US too. It is actually much more treatable because we can give antibiotics

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BTFO 3 points ago +4 / -1

I don't know a whole lot about medical field, but my spouse works in an ICU. They are indeed seeing lots of issues with clotting and I believe this is what ends up coding/killing patients. None the less, the standard protocol is still to drug the patients up, intubate/ventilator, and blood thinners (from my understanding). Even with all of that, some patients are still handling it badly and dying. I've even heard that it's heavily affecting the heart in some patients, but that might be due to the clotting? On the flip side, majority of population only sees mild symptoms or no symptoms at all. Does healthcare/science have a grip on this virus and what they're dealing with, or no?

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ShalomRPh 3 points ago +3 / -0

So maybe that's why they were giving me Lovenox while I was in the hospital. They never did explain the rationale behind that, other than "well it's protocol for patients who don't move around a lot", but it makes more sense now.

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Rickkybobby 1 point ago +1 / -0

It prevents clotting. Alot of diseases such as infection and cancer increase clotting, that coupled with laying in bed for days increases the chance of a clot forming and being sent to your lungs. Alot of patients are put on anticoagulants like lovenox to prevent that

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ShalomRPh 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta say, though, it stung at the injection site for days. Small price to pay I guess.