1660 88% of Patients on Ventilators in New York DIED?? Excuse Me, but that Sounds Like Improper Diagnosis and Treatment // WHO's Idea was it to Treat KungFlu w/ Ventilators?? WTF?? (www.msn.com) posted 358 days ago by OhWell_iAn 358 days ago by OhWell_iAn +1660 / -0 140 comments share 140 comments share save hide report block hide child comments Comments (140) sorted by: top new old worst You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread. ▲ 3 ▼ – DonJr2024 3 points 358 days ago +4 / -1 I have read that the forced air damages already sore lungs. I've read that from other doctors who have been saying that for weeks now. permalink save report block reply ▲ 2 ▼ – DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points 358 days ago +3 / -1 This is a known risk of ventilators. That's why a ventilator is a last resort. COVID-19 didn't change that. permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 1 ▼ – ShampocalypseWOW 1 point 358 days ago +1 / -0 That's the basic gist of it. The gamble is that it will help the patient slightly more than it hurts them, whereas without it they would just die. permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 0 ▼ – residue69 0 points 358 days ago +2 / -2 Intubation itself further damages the lungs. There's a 3D printed mod for a snorkeling mask that eliminates the need for intubation. We don't hear about that anymore though. permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 2 ▼ – DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points 358 days ago +3 / -1 CPAPs use a mask that seals around the face. But, it can be difficult for a user to find one that works for them. permalink save report block reply ▲ 2 ▼ – residue69 2 points 358 days ago +2 / -0 https://everydaykiss.com/italian-guy-designed-a-3d-printed-valve-to-turn-the-mask-into-a-ventilator-mask-and-its-free/ permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 1 ▼ – DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point 358 days ago +2 / -1 Oh, that's cool! I misunderstood you -- thought you meant it created a mask, not modifying an existing mask. I've seen those full face masks at beaches. But, I'm an old-school snorkeler, with mask and snorkel, and I would hate using one. permalink parent save report block reply
I have read that the forced air damages already sore lungs. I've read that from other doctors who have been saying that for weeks now.
This is a known risk of ventilators. That's why a ventilator is a last resort.
COVID-19 didn't change that.
That's the basic gist of it. The gamble is that it will help the patient slightly more than it hurts them, whereas without it they would just die.
Intubation itself further damages the lungs.
There's a 3D printed mod for a snorkeling mask that eliminates the need for intubation. We don't hear about that anymore though.
CPAPs use a mask that seals around the face. But, it can be difficult for a user to find one that works for them.
https://everydaykiss.com/italian-guy-designed-a-3d-printed-valve-to-turn-the-mask-into-a-ventilator-mask-and-its-free/
Oh, that's cool! I misunderstood you -- thought you meant it created a mask, not modifying an existing mask.
I've seen those full face masks at beaches. But, I'm an old-school snorkeler, with mask and snorkel, and I would hate using one.