When you get to the point you need a ventilator, the choice is either die right now or have a chance of survival with a ventilator.
There is some confusion with covid, though, because early on people were suggesting you intubate patients early, before you normally would. The thinking was that people deteriorated rapidly and would die before you had a chance to get them intubated/ventilated. Also that all of the things in between simple oxygen and the ventilator - CPAP, BIPAP, high flow nasal cannula, etc - endangered healthcare workers by exposing them to more virus.
Now we are doing all we can to not intubate these patients. That’s reflected with the high mortality of ventilated patients we are seeing in New York compared to other places (50 vs 88%).
So all the geniuses in this thread who pretend to know more about what to do than the actual doctors caring for these patients should basically stfu.
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When you get to the point you need a ventilator, the choice is either die right now or have a chance of survival with a ventilator.
There is some confusion with covid, though, because early on people were suggesting you intubate patients early, before you normally would. The thinking was that people deteriorated rapidly and would die before you had a chance to get them intubated/ventilated. Also that all of the things in between simple oxygen and the ventilator - CPAP, BIPAP, high flow nasal cannula, etc - endangered healthcare workers by exposing them to more virus.
Now we are doing all we can to not intubate these patients. That’s reflected with the high mortality of ventilated patients we are seeing in New York compared to other places (50 vs 88%).
So all the geniuses in this thread who pretend to know more about what to do than the actual doctors caring for these patients should basically stfu.