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Imransgarage 28 points ago +28 / -0

Based doc knows. Use it if it’s smart but it’s strong.

It’s why your stuff fades in the sun.

Spez: worked with someone who fucked their vision for weeks with strong UV.

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Melthesender45 10 points ago +10 / -0

They also use UV lights to dry ink on shampoo bottles and probably countless other things. Had a job silk screening and we printed shampoo bottles, yoyo's , t-shirts and other apparel.

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incogneato [S] 19 points ago +19 / -0

It looks like an excellent device. Am trying to figure out why I didn't know anything about this until I happened to see the story by OAN today!

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 12 points ago +12 / -0

UVC is amazing technology that I do not quite understand why it’s not much more commonplace. Maybe hospitals use bulbs so strong it could blind you, but for food processing applications, the bulbs used maybe aren’t quite as strong and a pair of Amber or other tinted UV safety glasses will provide adequate protection. We’ve used UVC to an extent for years now after there was a small scale salmonella outbreak that was blown way out of proportion. Lab testing batches multiple times with and w/o for contaminates (bacteria, mold/yeast, SPC, etc) clearly show that it works well, and so for years before the coronavirus I’ve wondered why it’s not more prevalent on things such as airplanes. Just turn on a light, walk away for an hour or so and the plane is virtually clean, disregard the dried vomit on the seat in front if you. I’m oversimplifying but this should’ve been used long before a plandemic broke out.

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Farmerbob1 9 points ago +12 / -3

I suspect the answer is very simple. Cost.

Devices which emit UVC in a controlled manner take time and money to develop and build.

The release has to be controlled, because UVC can harm your vision, and is strongly linked to skin cancers.

That means people either have to be absent or wear significant protective gear to avoid excessive exposure.

A few decades ago, my family owned a tanning salon. The bulbs we used in the beds were very expensive because they were designed to emit almost no UVC light, only UVA and UVB.

Welding with an arc welder also generates a LOT of UVC, and looking at the welding arc even briefly can damage your vision.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thank you for the informative reply. Do you happen to have any source for the vision lose or skin cancer from UVC? I don’t mean to disagree, just genuinely curious because I’ve been under the impression that UVC is a much shorter wavelength than UVA and B and it can not penetrate even the dead skins cells on the outter layer of human skin (quick link I found: https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q9450.htm)

But, I’m talking about 55 Watt bulbs that I’ve purchased nothing even close to looking at a welding arc. So it might be a totally different ballgame, just curious if you have more info. Thanks! And hope you’re having a nice Friday evening.

Edit: to add that it very well could be as simple as cost, because I’m only talking about a concentrated usage for say sterilizing clear jars which can be done using lower wattage UVC and reflective steel or other material to localize the light onto a small transparent object, I have no clue when it comes to the use of UVC to sterilize an entire room, that very well could be MUCH more expensive.

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Farmerbob1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thank you for making me do more research.

UVC is far more energetic than UVA or UVB, but it is, in fact, less dangerous to skin, because it is blocked by the surface of the skin, which is either dead already, or will die and be lost in short order.

The danger is exposing unprotected wounds or eyes to UVC. Cuts, rashes or sores on skin exposed to UVC are a risk.

https://www.klaran.com/is-uvc-safe

It has been over 30 years since I dealt with tanning beds. Sorry I got things a bit confused.

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DicksAllShitty 2 points ago +2 / -0

My employer borrowed one. Supposedly cost 126,000$. Had us knuckleheads moving it all around. It was kind of a pain in the ass. Worth it though.

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Rosewolf2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Research Nikola Tessla's lightbulb built to make Humanity immune to infection, diease, viruses, and etc.

You're welcome.

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Nalgahyde 7 points ago +7 / -0

According to Columbia, they have developed UVC lights that will kill germs and not harm humans.

https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-technology-virus-covid-19-UV-light

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Chalupamancer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Right. I got a UV C disinfecting toiletry travel bag. It warns you specifically that you can't look at the light, you turn on the light after you close the bag.

There are different UV lights out there folks.

UV A and UV B we get on the planet earth. UV C rays are blocked out by the atmosphere pretty much. UV C Is dangerous. Do not stare at UVC light wavelengths for any amount of time.

IF UV A Kills the virus, that means that many UV light bulbs you can buy at stores can kill it pretty effectively. Its huge news, because UV A is much safer than UVC to work with.

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SilverStarv5 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’d sooner install some UVA light bulbs in the right place than continue the shutdown

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NocturnalPatrol 40 points ago +42 / -2

Same reason we're not using HCQ. The entire point of all of this is to destroy the American economy.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 19 points ago +19 / -0

The scariest part is how many of our fellow friends and co-workers are actively buying into the hype, willing giving up their rights. The left has wanted to destroy the economy for decades, now it happens in just a few weeks and so many just buy into it.

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NocturnalPatrol 17 points ago +18 / -1

American independence was just an illusion. That's all it was. The enemy now knows all they have to do to take it all away is scare us enough. Climate change didn't work, gun violence didn't work, but this worked.

And it worked like a charm. The fact that any single serious person can use the term "social distancing" with a straight face is proof of that.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 15 points ago +15 / -0

Absolutely, I prefer the phrase someone here used a couple days ago: “socialist distancing” I’ve been washing my hands for years and years before it was cool, but this is totally out of control, and I never would’ve imagined we’d be at this point. Honestly, we can’t even look to Georgia for doing the right thing (although I’m strongly considering a quick getaway to show support and take a quick vacation, because someone is going to die from this virus, and not to diminish their life but it’s about to be blown so far out of proportion to support the left’s agenda it’s completely sickening to me.

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NocturnalPatrol 14 points ago +14 / -0

Meanwhile, as influential as Trump is, he's just one man. It's him, alone, against the entire media industrial complex.

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winsome 8 points ago +8 / -0

Naw, he's under Divine protection and guidance, how do you think he's gotten so much accomplished in such a short time? It's a miracle.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 2 points ago +3 / -1

True, but there’s also LOTS of us put here in the real world, more than most of our own may even believe and that’ll never be covered by the media, but we still exist and rest assured, we do vote!

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bubadmt 9 points ago +10 / -1

They'll gladly buy into anything that goes against what Trump says or does. Trump could say that suicide is wrong and the left would start shooting themselves as a protest to really stick it to the man. Never mind that they'll be dead, they just want to rebel.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, and sometimes I almost wish he’d go ahead and say it for that reason.

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Pussyslayer69 10 points ago +10 / -0

I think they actually decided not to roll that out which is why we haven’t heard much in the last week unfortunately

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NocturnalPatrol 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes, because it has been successfully Nixoned. The media did their work, and it's not part of the conversation anymore.

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Pussyslayer69 11 points ago +11 / -0

Hasn’t stopped trump before, I think he’s somehow managed to backslap the lame stream media harder than ever lately. Like major pimp slaps all around.

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Rosewolf2 2 points ago +2 / -0

The American Economy is built via BANKERS who have zero American interests in mind.

Why is this a bad thing?

Go back to the Gold Standard. No. It's not too late.

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NocturnalPatrol 3 points ago +3 / -0

The entire point of the media-generated mass panic. Anything that could possibly be used as a short term solution is shouted down and discredited by the media. HCQ was memory-holed, and this current possible solution will be completely forgotten by next week.

This will not end until there is a vaccine. And a vaccine will not be ready this year, or the next.

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NocturnalPatrol 1 point ago +1 / -0

What math?

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NocturnalPatrol 1 point ago +1 / -0

You asked me "You want to see the math?" My thinking is, "What are you talking about? The math of what?"

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pray4peace4 19 points ago +20 / -1

They ARE widely in use & have been for at least 6 years that I know of, which is when the hospital I used to work at got them.

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guanaco32 15 points ago +15 / -0

Six or seven years ago, a friend gave me a portable UV-C light wand - mostly as a joke. Since the beginning of March, I've been wanding my masks, gloves, grocery bags, mail, etc., as soon as I get home.

A few seconds of UV-C supposedly does the trick.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 8 points ago +8 / -0

It does, and at least one site where I’ve bought UVC lamps for various applications were sold out of the portable wands from day one, so people apparently know just no one is talking about it at least in most media. Without getting into too much detail, I’ve paid for and seen lab testing that shows it does work, killing most bacteria within a few seconds, mold/yeast within a minute or two, so from what I gather and maybe someone smarter can correct me but nearly all viruses are WAY smaller than bacteria so a virus can be broken up in much short time at close range (1 foot) in 2-3 seconds vs. 7-10 for most bacteria that causes food borne illness. Use that wand, it’s proven to work, it not blackmagic.

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maga_2020 3 points ago +6 / -3

You have to be careful though because UV-C is harmful to humans. Can cause cancer.

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Elariom23 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's using UVC light technology, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m0TQjBRcFo

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mvrak 6 points ago +6 / -0

Which is also possible to use in your HVAC.

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TrumpicanKAG2020 8 points ago +8 / -0

Damn thats nice Business strategy. Give it to airports private and public to try for free. prove its accuracy and reliablity in a highly congested area before going out to the masses. This might be very interesting. Have to check this companies stocks in the future for investment as Germ Falcons get recognition.

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winsome 4 points ago +4 / -0

No one's at the airports, poor CNN.

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Pussyslayer69 8 points ago +8 / -0

I want to see an actual nanorobotic falcon fuckin up the bacteria cause that sounds cool

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Luvmyboys 7 points ago +7 / -0

Nurseped here. Can confirm, we are using them everyday and and we’ve been using them long before the China flu came along!

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ModsBanPaleos 6 points ago +6 / -0

Proctor and gamble and johnson and johnson needed to make more money

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maga_2020 6 points ago +7 / -1

These things are heavily used already in certain industries, especially hospitals. Companies have also been disinfecting masks using this technique for weeks.

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winsome 3 points ago +3 / -0

I read you can put an (N-95) mask in a steamer over boing water for 10 minutes to sterilize it.

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drachennwolf 6 points ago +6 / -0

EMS provider here. We use them on the ambulances between calls.

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winsome 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can you please explain the process? Thx.

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drachennwolf 2 points ago +2 / -0

I really can't. We hook up a UV light and put it in the back of the ambulance. UV apparently destroys viruses.

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winsome 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good enough! Thanks.

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Lassosummoner 6 points ago +6 / -0

Cause big Gov got to do all the services to feel useful. Gov is not the solution. Gov is the problem - Reagan

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not_a_shill 5 points ago +5 / -0

Cus we paid GOOD money for this virus to cause a panic dammit! We need more people to catch it!

-The left

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Liberty_Prime 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sounds like an essential business to me.

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etnguyen03 1 point ago +1 / -0

Be careful where you get them from, shady places claim the bulbs are UV-C but they actually aren't. The reputable sellers are pretty much all sold out from my crude research.

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winsome 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is a birding site...not sure if they're trustworthy.

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mikejones 3 points ago +3 / -0

I go to some stores at least twice a month and see the same people. You'd think workers at stores who work 40 hours a week and see tons of people would be getting the virus but they don't.

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trumpORbust 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because it works

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Latinalover71 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because it's not part of the plan.

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Allegory 2 points ago +2 / -0

They have had light treatments since the 30s, apparently around 50s when vaccines were pushed heavily light treatments stopped being taught and fell out of mainstream medicine. I've been around the medical field my entire life, I had no idea it even existed. Apparently light it isn't very profitable... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr3ti1p0uMQ&t=1246s

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incogneato [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've been around it, too, and had not heard of this. Maybe after this it will take off in a much bigger way.

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winsome 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sunlight's the best disinfectant!

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Assofdeath 2 points ago +2 / -0

This isn't exactly new tech. I have a air purifier with UV-C light. I think you can even buy something that adapts to your HVAC.

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SteelDriver 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did Trump tout it in any way? If so, it is verboten in the eyes of many. :(

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winsome 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thought I saw that reported can't confirm.

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incogneato [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes, I think you're right! I do remember that. It was very effective!

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TheAussie 2 points ago +2 / -0

No addictable drug money in it, so shut it down now!

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CheckorHold 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe because it solves a problem they don't want to fix.

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WillowWynde 2 points ago +2 / -0

I had completely forgotten about the use of UV light in the medical industry until reading your post. I remember discussing with my father in great length of its efficacy in regard to his day surgery center about a decade or so ago. Thanks for the happy memory!

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Wess-mantooth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, you do want a certain number of ambient germs so our immune systems don't get weak

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MeatloafFvck 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because CNN

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alcowiggles 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're all sold out at Amazon except one company. But that company doesnt sell replaceable bulbs. Gonna wait until they restock the other versions.

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InterloperKO 2 points ago +2 / -0

So the exit door areas of the Institute of virology in Wuhan aren't flooded with these?

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TrailerTrashKilla 2 points ago +2 / -0

C&P of a post l made in answer to another Pede's question on same matter earlier-

I posted on this over a month ago & asked why we are not seeing more on the use of both the UVC disinfection robot & robotic pumping of a Medizone-specific ozone and hydrogen peroxide (or what ever proven sterilization product) etc vapour gas mixture.

l have personally witnessed these robots being used & the business opportunity offered for people to set up their own disinfection services for business's & private properties etc over a month ago, as l have personally seen these machines in use even in Third World war zones & disaster areas, showing how quickly & thoroughly they can be deployed .

To be clear the UVC disinfection robot & robotic pumping of a Medizone-specific ozone and hydrogen peroxide (or what ever proven sterilization product) etc vapour gas mixture l witnessed being used were both too powerful to expose humans directly to as they were solely meant to sterilize large areas in preparation for medical procedures.

Here is relevant parts of a post l made back then with links to a couple of the types of robotic machine l have seen in use both the UVC disinfection robot & robotic pumping of a Medizone-specific ozone and hydrogen peroxide vapour gas mixture -

After l got out of the Military l was head hunted to go Contracting with a outfit that provided security to some of the worlds largest NGO's, or as us insiders called it the "Disaster Industry " (DI),which l did for a few years till l made bank .We spent years traveling around the world to the major hot Conflict &Disaster zones .l witnessed a Cholera epidemic first hand where we would be providing over watch observing crowds of 1000's & see waves of people dropping .

Some of the people l worked with were on the front line of the SARS pandemic & are world leaders in dealing with these cluster fucks , so naturally as we traveling around the worlds conflict & disaster zones we would talk & pick their brains for info/knowledge as well as working with them to see the situation first hand .

l believe their is a great opportunity for enterprising individuals to set themselves up in business over this SNAFU offering things like disenfection services for both business & homes .When l was working with the NGO's they could make even third world country public buildings even in conflict zones like schools, remote health clinics,public halls,churches etc into sterilized surgical facilities by using robotic sterilization units these were like over sized Roombas that would sterilize huge areas,it involves pumping a Medizone-specific ozone and hydrogen peroxide vapour gas mixture into a room to completely sterilize everything -- including floors, walls, drapes, mattresses, chairs and other surfaces. It is far more effective in killing bacteria than wiping down a room.

With this fogging unit & medical quality UV light as it robotic-ally moved around the building,it would then use a suction function to remove the airborne sterilization & after it was done the rooms etc were sterilized to a standard where complex operations including heart & brain procedures could be performed in them .

I believe there are many other business opportunities & better methods to handle this current Cluster fuck from what l witnessed first hand of how the top SARS medical containment teams operated over my years working with them in some of the worst hot conflict & pandemic ridden shit holes in the world .

Link to examples that have been around for years & commonly used

UVC disinfection robot

https://tru-d.com/howuvcworks/

Mobile Hydrogen Peroxide Vapor (HPV) Generator

https://www.pharmaceuticalonline.com/doc/mobile-hydrogen-peroxide-vapor-hpv-generator-clarus-c-0001

https://www.vaisala.com/en/case/fighting-superbugs-proactively-innovation-and-collaboration-vaporized-hydrogen-peroxide-bio-decontamination

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DicksAllShitty 2 points ago +2 / -0

I work for a small but affluent city. One of our residents owns a company that makes these machines. He let us borrow one to disinfect Public Safety, City Hall, Library, and DPW. Machine kills everything including plants and insects. I guess it works. The smell is horrendous. The one we got is a pain in the ass to move. It’s heavy as shit. Looks like some Star Wars shit.

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incogneato [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even with the drawbacks, it still sounds awesome and futuristic AF. I am shocked but in no way surprised that I've never heard anything about these machines before - especially since the "outbreak" happened. The more publicity for these things, the better.

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Berkeley 2 points ago +2 / -0

We should be a bit careful. Some polymers can degrade when being exposed to UV rays.

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WhatWouldTrumpDoMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now that I think about it; I used the process on a smaller scale to whiten shoes. Put a cleaning agent on the shoe, wrap it plastic wrap and leave it exposed to bright sunlight. Boom, your shoe is like new.

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mintyfresh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shortwave UV light (the common "black light" is longwave UV) has been used since the invention of the fluorescent lamp for disinfecting. The idiots in the media act as if it's something the New Agers just came up with.

The only problem has been delivering the light into tight, irregular spaces like airliners without scanning every inch by hand.

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CurbYourTDS 2 points ago +2 / -0

The company I work for has had the cleaning service use this tech several times a day for the last month or two. UV hand held units used to clean frequently touched surfaces.

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winsome 2 points ago +2 / -0

So, you just run them over the surface? How fast and how close? Thanks.

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CurbYourTDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

They look like large light guns. Just point and shoot. They use them for things like door handles.

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winsome 1 point ago +1 / -0

They're trying to shame POTUS for mentioning this (just like the Lysol)? He said it was sarcasm? Hear that?

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Rosewolf2 1 point ago +1 / -0

is this a rhetorical question, or do you still fucking think real Americans are the ones running these decisions?

Chances are the person who ultimately makes this decision is more foreign than American, and probably hasnt even lived here for more than 1 generation.

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FitOfficial 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are being used. My SO's brother-in-law works for a lighting company and is really, really into it. I basically sat through three sales pitches over various dinners for these lights.

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Bax101 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ya as a drying rack for your dishes. Someone invent that so my Puerto Rican wife and I can come to a compromise about using the dishwasher over the drying rack. It will be a win win for both of us.

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incogneato [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

(first sticky! mods = gods! But credit goes to OAN for the story.)

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Toiletwands 1 point ago +1 / -0

Uv lights are available for residential hvac systems as well. Their almost definitely going to be installed incorrectly by most companies though. The main problem people have with them is the cost of the replacement bulbs and the fact that they produce ozone if you don't have the correct airflow setting.

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TRUMPTRAINTODC 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too effective

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RiverRunnerVDB 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because the virus ain’t that bad.

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ilovebooks3 1 point ago +1 / -0

One way to get really clean AND get a helluva suntan.

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Super_Kmart 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't these bulbs also cook people from the inside out?

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Chalupamancer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The real question is not why we are not using these things its, "why are we not making them fast enough?"

This is another one of those items that is either specially made in the US and is produced in low output.

The ones that are mass produced are made, you guessed it, China.