Yes, they were, once upon a time. The last of the so-called "good Democrats" were people like Harry Truman and JFK. The hipster coolness of 1960s leftist radicalism (Mao's Little Red Book, Che Guevara, and the Hindu 'incense-and-psychedelia' pilgrimages of the Beatles, et. al.), coupled with Lyndon Johnson's political gangsterism, completely warped the Dem party into the monster of today.
The Dems were always susceptible to the latest enthusiasms and fads, anyway, because fads are a socio-emotional virus, and Dems are...well...social and emotional. But our cultural underpinnings were always so deeply rooted in the puritanical ethics of Protestantism, that it managed to keep the Dems' baser appetites and inclinations in check.
But, the decline of religion, the collapse of the everpresent object-lesson in political horror--the USSR, and the debasement of our educational system have unleashed a perfect storm of far-left romanticism. Sadly, TDS has caused the Dem party to abandon all caution as they flirt with communo-fascism.
It's a communist subreddit that is trying to lure in 'libertarians' by convincing them that they need to fight against all the evil fascism in America. But only the fascism. They salt their sidebar with little "communism is bad too!" but the only stated purpose of the sub is to call the right Nazis and defeat them to "win back the country".
It's a bunch of useful idiots carrying water for Commies, doing their dirty work, who are too stupid to realize they would be executed or gulag'd fifteen seconds after the commies sieze power.
Exactly. The wanted us to leave and take our ideas with us- I’m not letting them get off so easy. They deserve us swarming every liberal sub and running our mouths.
I think what really happens is that the mask of the left is slipping. They could always pretend to oppose authoritarianism and pretend there is something like "Libertarian Leftism", as if leftism isn't fundamentally based on collectivism and government power in nearly ALL of their political goals.
So the primary craft of the left is the mastery of illusion.
Think about it - entertainment media is dominated by Marxists (for simplicity let's ignore the variance in magnitude), news media is dominated by Marxists, even railing against McCarthy way back in time. Academia and education serve to indoctrinate the young - be it by weakening cultural bonds or by blatantly brainwashing them with neo-Marxist nonsense like gender bending.
Big Tech is practically tilting the public conversation in favor of Marxists - and by now it's blatantly obvious. Celebrities are literally deeply involved in fiction and pretending to be someone they are not.
All of them work to push narratives that are rooted on lies, intentional framing or deception, often with catchy and short phrases, stripping away nuance (which they pretend to value, although they don't debate with people who disagree with them - so it's effectively just logically unresolvable nonsense stacked on itself).
They can't win in debates unless everything is stacked in their favor. So of course they avoid it. They learned to shout racist, bigot, Nazi and fascist and to dismiss every information that contradicts them - because it comes from a place of irrationality and hatred - which is quite ironic.
They literally don't understand the point that more money won't solve the problem of no milk available. It's a vast range of ignorance and evil that dominates their mind - and I am no longer willing to excuse their ignorance. Many have proven that they are driven by evil and therefore indulge in ignorance to justify their behaviors. Obviously they project that upon us... you know, projection is just another form of illusion, nothing surprising.
The Republican party started back in 1850 to counter the Democrats wanting to extend slavery into the western states.
Dems were too "aristocratic."
Blacks started making progress post-slavery, in Reconstruction. Several entered Congress...as Republicans.
Dems couldn't have that. They instituted Jim Crow as a second slavery. As a result, the first black Dem senator was in the 1990s -- whereas the first black Republican senator was over 100 years earlier -- 1870.
Furthermore, they created the KKK as a tyrannical, authoritarian terrorist wing to intimidate people. They have always engaged in election fraud as well.
Short version: They have always been elitist, class-conscious, racist SOBs. They have lied about it. And until recently, some of them were not bad people (JFK).
But they will ALWAYS have the stench of slavery and the KKK about them.
And they will always have the stench of aristocracy; that is, neofeudalism, about them, too.
While some of what you said is true, that's not what the poster (whose comment I responded to) asked, which was: "were they ever American?", to which the answer is yes. You are conflating the behavior of one part of the party, the Southern Democrats, with the party as a whole. That's unjust and runs contrary to historical fact. The Northern and Western Democrats were terribly distressed by the growing sectional divide because it threatened the integrity of The Nation.
There's a big difference between the Dems of 1860 and today, and that difference is...hard-leftism, and especially the communist variety. If today's Democrats are uneasy about the direction of the party, they're playing a very dangerous game by attempting to take advantage of the anarchic dynamism of hard-leftism while trying to maintain party integrity. They've made a deal with devil by allowing communist rowdiness to bloom in the party just for the sake of 'energizing the rank & file'.
A central feature of communist ideology is internationalism; thus, there's an element of the Dem party that couldn't give a shit about the integrity of The Nation, which they feel is an outmoded relic, dustbin of history, yadda, yadda. If the party as a whole is distressed about this Bolshevik-style platform-hijacking, they're flat-out insane if they think they've got any control over it. And sadly, they actually are insane with TDS.
But, Trump isn't playing games. He and I and millions of other leftover Cold Warriors, knew this was coming. The destruction of the USSR has cast adrift those internationalist tentacles that were in the US, and we've got a job to root that shit out. The Dems aren't their own best doctor for the job since, historically, they've been the more anti-capitalist/populist party. Rooting out the communist virus (in every sense) is going to require a massive prophylactic dose of freemarket wealth-generation.
Which is why today's infected Democrats are fighting tooth-and-nail to destroy the nation's literal health, because its economic health will follow.
The Dems were always susceptible to the latest enthusiasms and fads, anyway, because fads are a socio-emotional virus, and Dems are...well...social and emotional.
Yes, they were, once upon a time. The last of the so-called "good Democrats" were people like Harry Truman and JFK. The hipster coolness of 1960s leftist radicalism (Mao's Little Red Book, Che Guevara, and the Hindu 'incense-and-psychedelia' pilgrimages of the Beatles, et. al.), coupled with Lyndon Johnson's political gangsterism, completely warped the Dem party into the monster of today.
The Dems were always susceptible to the latest enthusiasms and fads, anyway, because fads are a socio-emotional virus, and Dems are...well...social and emotional. But our cultural underpinnings were always so deeply rooted in the puritanical ethics of Protestantism, that it managed to keep the Dems' baser appetites and inclinations in check.
But, the decline of religion, the collapse of the everpresent object-lesson in political horror--the USSR, and the debasement of our educational system have unleashed a perfect storm of far-left romanticism. Sadly, TDS has caused the Dem party to abandon all caution as they flirt with communo-fascism.
I literally only today found this subreddit: http://reddit.com/r/ironfrontusa.
It's a communist subreddit that is trying to lure in 'libertarians' by convincing them that they need to fight against all the evil fascism in America. But only the fascism. They salt their sidebar with little "communism is bad too!" but the only stated purpose of the sub is to call the right Nazis and defeat them to "win back the country".
It's a bunch of useful idiots carrying water for Commies, doing their dirty work, who are too stupid to realize they would be executed or gulag'd fifteen seconds after the commies sieze power.
Why would you go to reddit? I haven't clicked a thing at that commie infested shithole since .win started.
I go there to stir the pot
Exactly. The wanted us to leave and take our ideas with us- I’m not letting them get off so easy. They deserve us swarming every liberal sub and running our mouths.
I appreciate you. I can't do it. I get myself worked up into an anxiety attack with those bastards.
Because this place is only politics, there's still hobbyist subs on Reddit like /r/guns.
But even /r/firearms is being taken over. Look at this whole fucking thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/g7hyoo/the_only_thing_necessary_for_the_triumph_of_evil/
Giant tropical centipedes share their territory with tarantulas.
Iron front?
So they acknowledge and agree with the Iron Curtain that was the (sometimes) invisible wall between free countries and communist countries?
Or do they think we have forgotten?
It's like Raj from season 2 of The Apprentice.
Bringing down that wall was a mistake.
LAWL they coppied the layout of the old TD!!
Very well said and quite interesting.
I think what really happens is that the mask of the left is slipping. They could always pretend to oppose authoritarianism and pretend there is something like "Libertarian Leftism", as if leftism isn't fundamentally based on collectivism and government power in nearly ALL of their political goals.
So the primary craft of the left is the mastery of illusion.
Think about it - entertainment media is dominated by Marxists (for simplicity let's ignore the variance in magnitude), news media is dominated by Marxists, even railing against McCarthy way back in time. Academia and education serve to indoctrinate the young - be it by weakening cultural bonds or by blatantly brainwashing them with neo-Marxist nonsense like gender bending.
Big Tech is practically tilting the public conversation in favor of Marxists - and by now it's blatantly obvious. Celebrities are literally deeply involved in fiction and pretending to be someone they are not.
All of them work to push narratives that are rooted on lies, intentional framing or deception, often with catchy and short phrases, stripping away nuance (which they pretend to value, although they don't debate with people who disagree with them - so it's effectively just logically unresolvable nonsense stacked on itself).
They can't win in debates unless everything is stacked in their favor. So of course they avoid it. They learned to shout racist, bigot, Nazi and fascist and to dismiss every information that contradicts them - because it comes from a place of irrationality and hatred - which is quite ironic.
They literally don't understand the point that more money won't solve the problem of no milk available. It's a vast range of ignorance and evil that dominates their mind - and I am no longer willing to excuse their ignorance. Many have proven that they are driven by evil and therefore indulge in ignorance to justify their behaviors. Obviously they project that upon us... you know, projection is just another form of illusion, nothing surprising.
More money won't solve the problem of "no milk available." This is clear as day. What a simple description.
ElderPede here: Your post made me cry, real tears, and reading it breaks my heart as well pede.... because you're so right!
No, they weren't.
The Republican party started back in 1850 to counter the Democrats wanting to extend slavery into the western states.
Dems were too "aristocratic."
Blacks started making progress post-slavery, in Reconstruction. Several entered Congress...as Republicans.
Dems couldn't have that. They instituted Jim Crow as a second slavery. As a result, the first black Dem senator was in the 1990s -- whereas the first black Republican senator was over 100 years earlier -- 1870.
Furthermore, they created the KKK as a tyrannical, authoritarian terrorist wing to intimidate people. They have always engaged in election fraud as well.
Short version: They have always been elitist, class-conscious, racist SOBs. They have lied about it. And until recently, some of them were not bad people (JFK).
But they will ALWAYS have the stench of slavery and the KKK about them.
And they will always have the stench of aristocracy; that is, neofeudalism, about them, too.
While some of what you said is true, that's not what the poster (whose comment I responded to) asked, which was: "were they ever American?", to which the answer is yes. You are conflating the behavior of one part of the party, the Southern Democrats, with the party as a whole. That's unjust and runs contrary to historical fact. The Northern and Western Democrats were terribly distressed by the growing sectional divide because it threatened the integrity of The Nation.
There's a big difference between the Dems of 1860 and today, and that difference is...hard-leftism, and especially the communist variety. If today's Democrats are uneasy about the direction of the party, they're playing a very dangerous game by attempting to take advantage of the anarchic dynamism of hard-leftism while trying to maintain party integrity. They've made a deal with devil by allowing communist rowdiness to bloom in the party just for the sake of 'energizing the rank & file'.
A central feature of communist ideology is internationalism; thus, there's an element of the Dem party that couldn't give a shit about the integrity of The Nation, which they feel is an outmoded relic, dustbin of history, yadda, yadda. If the party as a whole is distressed about this Bolshevik-style platform-hijacking, they're flat-out insane if they think they've got any control over it. And sadly, they actually are insane with TDS.
But, Trump isn't playing games. He and I and millions of other leftover Cold Warriors, knew this was coming. The destruction of the USSR has cast adrift those internationalist tentacles that were in the US, and we've got a job to root that shit out. The Dems aren't their own best doctor for the job since, historically, they've been the more anti-capitalist/populist party. Rooting out the communist virus (in every sense) is going to require a massive prophylactic dose of freemarket wealth-generation.
Which is why today's infected Democrats are fighting tooth-and-nail to destroy the nation's literal health, because its economic health will follow.
That's one fucking cool sentence.
This whole thread is amazing. So much excellence in so few words.