So the constitution says the method of elections is up to the states. We need an amendment for National Voter ID. Maybe even use the RealID that’s in place now. We just cant extend that to non citizens.
I don’t think it’s taking the high road as much as it is that the low road options aren’t even in their play book.
They’re just like scared fish that have no fight in them. How can you win when the other side plays so damn dirty but because you have better character you don’t even consider playing dirty?
Another problem with taking the "low road" tactics is that the second a non-Leftist uses their tricks, the media will be all over it, broadcasting it non-stop and calling for heads. The media turns a blind-eye to the Left's crimes. A non-Leftist drops a candy wrapper on the sidewalk and they end up in jail. Again, part of this is because the non-Left refuses to use the same dirty tricks to get out of it. Media can easily be forced into keeping quiet. They ALL have skeletons in their closet. Nobody has the balls to do it.
People don't realize by how slim of margins Trump won in 2016. About 80,000 votes in certain states leaning the other way and it'd been a different story.
Now hopefully more people vote Trump this year but 80,000 (or a little more now) flipped via mail in voting in certain states and we'll see what Trump does the day after the election.
Like my father always says, the meek shall inherit the earth... But who cares? We'll just kick their ass and take it back because they're just a bunch of meeks.
This is what happens when a word changes over the centuries and gets turned into something it never intended to mean to the people who were listening to those words 2000 yrs ago
The "meek" were those who were referred to as those brave men with their hands on the swords that chose to keep them in their sheaths, when they could have gone slaying but for the sake of a just peace, ensured no form of violence was meted out
Hence, why the meek shall inherit the Earth - because they chose not mindless violence, when they were fully capable of doing so.
Jordan Peterson has a really good video on that line
Democrats are taught that Republicans fight dirty, so that's why we had to as well. That's what theyre taught. They actually believe the Republicans are the bigger cheaters. That's WHY they think its ok to fight dirty.
And yes they will fight dirty, and no they don't care. They think theyre fighting an enemy that cheats. So they think what they do is entirely justified.
Those people are Democrats, and not only do they go along with non-citizens and illegal aliens voting and getting benefits, they demand it, and will call you a racist and a Nazi if you object or even question it.
An ideal election for the Democrats is one where they can have people sitting in a room filling out as many thousands of blank ballots are needed to tip the vote, the day or even the week AFTER the polls close.
An ideal election for the Democrats is one where they can have people sitting in a room filling out as many thousands of blank ballots are needed to tip the vote, the day or even the week AFTER the polls close.
The federal government and the DHS are in charge of federal elections.
This. I'm a little surprised at the number of people who aren't aware of this. I think it's something Obama cooked up, then after Hillary lost, President Trump never changed it.
edit -- I guess it was the DHS oversight that Obama put in place?
Trump using an executive order for national voter ID could be undone by the next president just like he has destroyed Obama's legacy. If something doesnt get pushed through congress then it can be easily overturned.
If we got an EO, it would buy us time to vote in a Republican house majority, who most likely would vote for that amendment. It would just need to be ratified by most of the states after that. But yeah. Its a long game either way.
That can be taken care of later. If Dem governors cheat the elections, legislation will never be put in place, because only hand picked globalists will get enough absentee ballots filled in back rooms to win.
So? Just need an EO for this year. Not sure about you, but I have 0 faith in Congress doing anything right. We had control for 2 years and they sat and span on their thumbs.
What we needed to do was crush them completely while we had power.
This is what I keep saying about state-level electoral colleges. The move isn't to try to implement it in places like NY and CA. It's to implement it now in states with legislatures that can get it done so the Left can't take over the few cities there and ruin entire states.
Kentucky, for one, should have done it in 2016 so they weren't stuck with a crap governor now who wants to keep the state closed for no reason other than to hold onto his emergency powers. They can still get it done with the super-majority Republican legislature, AG and Secretary of State. I guarantee not one person plans to put it in place. If it benefited the Left, I guarantee we'd already have it in every state.
IF NOT FOR SHENNANIGANS THE WHOLE DAMN COUNTRY WOULD BE RED. You think Cali and Oregon would be blue and the entire southwest would be purple without shennanigans? The only places I can even imagine going blue with no shennanigans to assist are HI and NY.
The only places I can even imagine going blue with no shennanigans to assist are HI and NY.
I'm not sure about NY. Three million people on Long Island and plenty of illegals. In NY, all you need in order to vote is know the name and address of a registered voter. Show up early enough in the morning and you claim to be that person, sign in, vote and you're done. Rinse and repeat all day long. No ID required. Elections would be a lot different in NY if the voting was on the level.
For fucking real... If any establishment the average person goes to on a regular basis is a petri disk, it's the grocery store. If you go there, you can go to a fucking middle school gym for 30 minutes.
Fuck the ‘Muh dynasty’ tards. We are in a Constitutional/civilizational emergency. The Bushes are DS. I don’t think Pence has the balls To stand up to the DS. The only other candidate I can think of is Rand Paul. We’ll see
The motto of the Party Of Crime is "By Any Means Necessary." According to their "Rules For Radicals" playbook (Fun Fact: Crooked Hillary wrote her senior thesis on the "works" of Saul Alinsky) there are "no bad tactics, only bad targets."
As we see on a regular basis, the DNC/Tolerant Left™ will harshly punish their own icons and "influencers" for even a small slip-up of dissent against the Leftist Agenda. They attack their own supporters just as vehemently as they attack Patriots, because Leftists insist on flawless 100% compliance with all aspects of the ever-changing Leftist Agenda (even, or especially, if an "offense" was committed in the past long before "wokeness" was invented.) Allowing these people any degree of control over our lives is insanity.
tl;dr DNC Voter Fraud is the true opponent in the 2020 Election. If strong decisive measures are not taken immediately, the combination of DNC Voter Fraud plus imported "replacement voters" (immigrants both legal and illegal) will guarantee the permanent "success" of their long-term population-replacement strategy.
It’s pretty hard to vote left if you just think about their tactics as a whole. I’m sure people here and there in the party haven’t been bought, like Tulsi, but the broad strokes are really damning. Make accountability for voting harder. Import voters. Let non citizens vote. Give free stuff to anyone in exchange for votes. I believe in manmade climate change, and some policies here and there on the left are fine, but it’s pretty clear that they only support or refute any issue based on whether or not they can use it to grab power.
Most republicans aren’t much better, but at least they’re not trying to fucking replace Americans with low wage illegal workers to make a slave state. It’s ‘Disney villain’ bad and obvious.
I’ve tried talking to people online about it on some issues like Voter ID, and all the responses I get read like they were made by fake accounts working from the same play book based on them recycling commonly used ways of referring to things. Kind of like fake reviews on a movie site. You put them all in a spread sheet and find out 80% of them were all made from a few strings of key phrases. It’s like the online support for that party isn’t even real.
At least on places like the Donald, which are heavily biased in favor of Trump to the extent you can be, they let people debate things and call each other out. People have dissenting views. Not everyone agrees. Everything’s pretty organic. Go some place like r/pol, and it all reads like a bunch of hired people talking to each other.
I think one trick Trump could do is unveil some kind of voting verification system that makes fraud impossible. If he could brand it and launch it effectively, now would be a good time to do it because the Democrats have already put so much energy into their “Russian hacking” narrative. One possibility might be to have the Military oversee the Election as a safeguard against Putin and other foreign actors. For the corporate media to criticize this, they would have to come out against the U.S. military, and that has always been something they have tried to avoid doing.
As it stands, they know that the next time a dem president wins, the country will never go red again. So they are doing all it takes to steal this election because they don't want to wait until 2024.
Correct. Trump is very likely the Last Republican President.
We have either a few months, or 5 years of relative normalcy left. (Not that we can enjoy that time in peace, look at the disruption Leftists/Democrats have wrought and they aren't even in full-panic mode just yet.)
There are only 26 states that have Republican governors. If every Democratic governor decides to go for mail in ballots then that is it pedes. We will lose no matter what. We need PA and Michigan. Now is not the time to sit back and just let these states get away with this because they were gonna be blue anyways. Not to mention the importance of winning back house seats, which are even easier for Dems to fuck with.
PA already gerrymandered districts. Dem owned Supreme Court is crooked AF. PA also has a long list of Democrat government officials in jail yet the stupid people continue to vote Democrat blindly
SCOTUS has regularly intervened when a state voting case has gotten to them, usually cases around re-districting so there's precedent there.
Again, once someone sues the shit out of Cuomo and NY state itself it winds up in federal court and the appeals process pretty much guarantees that SCOTUS is going to see it.
COMO and Lamont seem to be buddy buddy lately along with Jersey. I don't doubt CT will see vote by mail. Ugh. Already seeing it here in emails I'm getting from pedes in unions. They are pushing hard for it.
If the D's are going to cheat and play games with it, then why not conservatives? Harvest those MAGA voters and send boxes of votes in for this side. They want to change the rules, change it back on them.
Then the leftist DA's and the media alike will rigorously prosecute those conservatives, and quietly let the liberals cheat all they want even if they get caught.
We need to figure this out at a federal level god damn it. These fucking cheating ass corrupt people need to be rooted out and arrested. Mail in voting , fucking LOL. What a joke. Absolutely no vote integrity there at all.
In what case does POTUS honor any ballots, mail-in or otherwise? It's really not up to him to decide. Not saying that what the Dems are doing is right, but POTUS saying he won't honor mail-in ballots carries as much weight as Pelosi saying she won't honor regular ballots.
Its in the constitution that the federal government ensure fair elections.
No, it is not.
Article I Section 4
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.
It is up to the States, and beyond that up to Congress.
My logic is what the Constitution says, so attack that.
What part of the Constitution is violated by your rhetorical example?
As far as I understand it, the only place where elections to Congress is mentioned is in the text I quoted. If elections are specifically mentioned elsewhere in the Constitution then by all means show me where.
If it is not prohibited by the Constitution, then it is allowed to happen. So from your rhetorical example, yes, the Federal government would not have any power to stop it, because the Federal govt is allowed only the powers specifically granted to it by the Constitution. You or I may not like it, but until it's amended that's still how it is.
And furthermore, since the original topic of this convo is whether POTUS can or cannot nullify any elections or the ballots or results thereof, what part of the Constitution gives him any of this authority?
Well the method of voting MAY be protected, but voter fraud still isnt. The method of voting leads to voter fraud, so if we can't get them on method we can still get them on fraud.... BUT SO FAR THAT DOESNT EVER HAPPEN EITHER.
They will know beforehand who you will be likely to vote for. Any social media, clubs, guns, buying patterns, that tip off the likely conservative button on their AI will have your name marked for destruction months before the election.
One citizen, one vote to determine the state's contribution... This is done by: registered voting, voter ID voting, or in-person voting; or some combo. Absentee voting allows the Dead, the non-Citizen, and the Fraudster to vote. If Cuomo insists on this, we should deny his state's integrity, and refuse its fraud of a "vote"...
It's painfully obvious what is going on in this country right now. The Democrats are engineering a takeover of the election laws in every state that they can. 2020 is going to be a hell of a battle, but I'm confident the Democrats are going to get fucked in the end.
He's spent almost 4 years at the helm as POTUS, he knows everything now. I think he will win in 2020 then go scorched earth on the MSM and Dems for what they tried to do to him and his family
The more distance between voters and their vote, the more chance for fraud.
American elections have extreme consequences for money and power. They are contentious and adversarial yet there are almost never repercussions for cheating. Anyone who thinks there is not extensive cheating happening is deluding themselves.
We are the only developed country that allows for this level of fraud. It will only take 1776 to change because we sure as hell aren't amending the Constitution
I agree, the time for playing an honest game with cheats on the other side of the table is over. Play by the same rules as your opponent or you are lost.
The election is over four fucking months away. There's no good reason to do this except to get in their rigging. There's no way it's going to be "too dangerous" by November to go vote in person. Give me a break.
Cuomo is the poster boy for democratic corruption in this crisis. Hiding ventilators. Not using HCQ. Fake death counts. Sending infected to nursing homes. Mail in voting. Complaining to media after massive federal help. Violating the constitution with mask orders and lockdowns.
Time to take away all his power. The NYC curves are finished. Overrule him on all of his decisions and OPEN NY STATE NOW.
If things are that bad by November that you are unable to go outside to vote.
Then it won't matter who is in the WH. As everything will be FUBAR. Maybe they get this or maybe not. Local governments will be out of money as the US government will be out of money.
They don't get if certain parts of America return to normal and those parts are run by the GOP they really risk being in a shitty position. Even in NY.
it will take the hangings of people like COMEY, BRENNAN, OBAMA, HOLDER, LYNCH, RICE, POWER, etc. to get the message across. They have names and addresses and so do their families. We need to start "getting to" these fuckers like the Mob, and making them fear for their lives. Because right now they're just walking around free like whoopty-doo, after trying to overthrow a duly elected POTUS. They all need to die.
Mentioning that tidbit a couple years ago put me in the spotlight of Top Minds of Reddit, whoever that weak bunch of arrogant little fucktard spermshots are.
and make sure to have D and R clearly visible to the mail carriers ...and tell the post mater to have liberal carriers pick up mail in red districts ...and then say OOPS its just an error when called out on it.
All they need is a supermajority in house and senate. They dont even need to steal the presidential election. They will try, but they can settle for supermajorities.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THIS PATRIOT A BRICK! THAT'S 168315 BRICKS HANDED OUT!
We are at 23.7069492903166111085039520% of our goal to BUILD THE WALL starting from Imperial Beach, CA to Brownsville, Texas! Let's make sure everyone gets a brick in the United States! For every Centipede a brick, for every brick a Centipede!
At this rate, the wall will be 1850.79912973905943112010780 MILES WIDE and 493.254516704041511796162555 FEET HIGH by tomorrow! DO YOUR PART!
He's a bit ahead of the curve here, over his skis as it were. They can't keep people locked down until November, not without a revolt that is. I'm afraid that they wouldn't like the outcome if it ever came to that.
So the constitution says the method of elections is up to the states. We need an amendment for National Voter ID. Maybe even use the RealID that’s in place now. We just cant extend that to non citizens.
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2019/12/21/thousands-of-illegal-aliens-line-up-to-get-drivers-licenses-after-laws-pass-in-ny-and-nj/
After Trump, repubs will fold and it will be the end of Americans
I worry that Our last hope for long-term sustainment of the Republic past 2024 is if there is a 7-2 majority in the SCOTUS.
And John Roberts being one of those two.
Unexpected kek right there!
Roberts is one needing replacing. Knowingly signed the FISA warrants based on fabricated dossier. Big problems.
Obamacare too
Our "last hope"? We haven't even done all we can, at least not that I've seen.
This
Yes! Dammit, we need to be able to give Kekistani Gold, or something.
Why? Republicans don't use the same playbook. The Left should be sued into oblivion but the non-Leftists always want to take the "high road."
The only use for the high road at this point is to fire down from an elevated position.
I don’t think it’s taking the high road as much as it is that the low road options aren’t even in their play book.
They’re just like scared fish that have no fight in them. How can you win when the other side plays so damn dirty but because you have better character you don’t even consider playing dirty?
Another problem with taking the "low road" tactics is that the second a non-Leftist uses their tricks, the media will be all over it, broadcasting it non-stop and calling for heads. The media turns a blind-eye to the Left's crimes. A non-Leftist drops a candy wrapper on the sidewalk and they end up in jail. Again, part of this is because the non-Left refuses to use the same dirty tricks to get out of it. Media can easily be forced into keeping quiet. They ALL have skeletons in their closet. Nobody has the balls to do it.
America will Balkanize in our lifetime
If I didn't have to live among commies and islamic supremacists and have them slowly control my govt and my life, I wouldn't exactly weep
They're blasting the muzzie call to prayer 5x a day over loudspeakers in MN
this is bad, people
Fuck
I don't think they gonna wait till 2024
If NY is implementing this, expect other states like Michigan to do the same
They will make sure he loses in 2020 and it will be because of mail in ballots and this is going to happen this year.
Expect Trump to lose in Nov and yes, Biden to be President if NY isn't stopped
Why? All I see is districts that weren’t going for Trump anyways.
Fuck Ny
Fuck NY, yes.
But what NY is doing is setting precedent and expect the Dem shills in states like Michigan and New Hampshire, where he barely won, to push for this.
If that happens, there is literally no chance for Trump to win in 2020
People don't realize by how slim of margins Trump won in 2016. About 80,000 votes in certain states leaning the other way and it'd been a different story.
Now hopefully more people vote Trump this year but 80,000 (or a little more now) flipped via mail in voting in certain states and we'll see what Trump does the day after the election.
Yes and no. We still have the last resort. It will be very ugly.
It will happen. And it will be very ugly. But necessary. The world needs us as a Republic
Our enemies are outgunned. It will just take the dedication of American patriots to bring justice back to this country.
I am rereading Unintended Consequences right now.
It only takes a few %. Not even 10.
3% would be plenty.
Like my father always says, the meek shall inherit the earth... But who cares? We'll just kick their ass and take it back because they're just a bunch of meeks.
Leftists aren't meek. Meek means controlled strength and being humble.
Leftists are outrage warriors.
Leftists are outraged
warriorsFTFY
This is what happens when a word changes over the centuries and gets turned into something it never intended to mean to the people who were listening to those words 2000 yrs ago
The "meek" were those who were referred to as those brave men with their hands on the swords that chose to keep them in their sheaths, when they could have gone slaying but for the sake of a just peace, ensured no form of violence was meted out
Hence, why the meek shall inherit the Earth - because they chose not mindless violence, when they were fully capable of doing so.
Jordan Peterson has a really good video on that line
JR 46
We'll have a conservative judiciary for some time tho
You aren’t allowed to check if you’re hiring someone illegal, which is illegal in-and-of itself...
Lol wut
That's why they're so dangerous. They do not fight fair. They have no honor. And they want us all dead and our children brainwashed.
I was a lifer before I WalkedAway in '15.
Democrats are taught that Republicans fight dirty, so that's why we had to as well. That's what theyre taught. They actually believe the Republicans are the bigger cheaters. That's WHY they think its ok to fight dirty.
And yes they will fight dirty, and no they don't care. They think theyre fighting an enemy that cheats. So they think what they do is entirely justified.
The bigger problem is that our side does.
"Fair" in my book is to respond to stolen elections by shooting the motherfuckers
I agree this shit is unbelievable!
Those people are Democrats, and not only do they go along with non-citizens and illegal aliens voting and getting benefits, they demand it, and will call you a racist and a Nazi if you object or even question it.
I called NY ICE about this on the day they opened. Busy signal all day. Fishy as hell.
Except for step 3, you described California for a long while now
When we lose Texas we're already never going to win another election again. Too much immigration both legal and illegal.
Yes. This was always the plan and it happened and it is over.
See: California
See 2018.
We are not getting that amendment anytime soon. Dems will not vote for it.
What we needed to do was crush them completely while we had power. Sadly we had Rino Ryan in place.
Trump should make an executive order.
This. I'm a little surprised at the number of people who aren't aware of this. I think it's something Obama cooked up, then after Hillary lost, President Trump never changed it.
edit -- I guess it was the DHS oversight that Obama put in place?
Trump using an executive order for national voter ID could be undone by the next president just like he has destroyed Obama's legacy. If something doesnt get pushed through congress then it can be easily overturned.
If we got an EO, it would buy us time to vote in a Republican house majority, who most likely would vote for that amendment. It would just need to be ratified by most of the states after that. But yeah. Its a long game either way.
That can be taken care of later. If Dem governors cheat the elections, legislation will never be put in place, because only hand picked globalists will get enough absentee ballots filled in back rooms to win.
So? Just need an EO for this year. Not sure about you, but I have 0 faith in Congress doing anything right. We had control for 2 years and they sat and span on their thumbs.
Nope, congress & senatr would go fully red, they would make it permamemt law. They were going to do the same with Obamacare but Trump won.
This is what I keep saying about state-level electoral colleges. The move isn't to try to implement it in places like NY and CA. It's to implement it now in states with legislatures that can get it done so the Left can't take over the few cities there and ruin entire states.
Kentucky, for one, should have done it in 2016 so they weren't stuck with a crap governor now who wants to keep the state closed for no reason other than to hold onto his emergency powers. They can still get it done with the super-majority Republican legislature, AG and Secretary of State. I guarantee not one person plans to put it in place. If it benefited the Left, I guarantee we'd already have it in every state.
Ryan should be put away for that
Well, he lost his speakership. Not sure he did anything Illegal. Lying about being a republican is not illegal.
I’d settle for now for blocking it from happening in swing states. It’s not like CA and NY weren’t going blue anyway.
True, but I don't see why all the blue states won't follow. And if a blue governor decides to do mail voting, the state WILL go blue
Two weeks ago they talked about it. Now they are doing it. Many purple states out there. Virginia, Michigan, Pennsylvania? Which one is next?
I call PA because they have already had fraud in the number of corona virus death statistics!
Which state with a Democrat governor hasn't been generating fraudulent numbers?
If not for shenanigans they might be red
IF NOT FOR SHENNANIGANS THE WHOLE DAMN COUNTRY WOULD BE RED. You think Cali and Oregon would be blue and the entire southwest would be purple without shennanigans? The only places I can even imagine going blue with no shennanigans to assist are HI and NY.
I'm not sure about NY. Three million people on Long Island and plenty of illegals. In NY, all you need in order to vote is know the name and address of a registered voter. Show up early enough in the morning and you claim to be that person, sign in, vote and you're done. Rinse and repeat all day long. No ID required. Elections would be a lot different in NY if the voting was on the level.
Federal elections are not
If you can get on the disease ridden subways to go to the grocery store or work, you can go vote...
For fucking real... If any establishment the average person goes to on a regular basis is a petri disk, it's the grocery store. If you go there, you can go to a fucking middle school gym for 30 minutes.
What happens after Trump serves his 2nd term?
Jr.
Fuck the ‘Muh dynasty’ tards. We are in a Constitutional/civilizational emergency. The Bushes are DS. I don’t think Pence has the balls To stand up to the DS. The only other candidate I can think of is Rand Paul. We’ll see
Jim Jordan would be good.
Yep, i like Jim Jordan and Jr.
Pence and Rand are too softspoken
Nunez would be better...
Ron Paul is fucking 80
‘RAND Paul’
I'd vote for Ron Paul if he was in a Captain Pike BEEP chair.
Ashton Kutcher.
BigBug
^ This guy gets it! ^
The motto of the Party Of Crime is "By Any Means Necessary." According to their "Rules For Radicals" playbook (Fun Fact: Crooked Hillary wrote her senior thesis on the "works" of Saul Alinsky) there are "no bad tactics, only bad targets."
As we see on a regular basis, the DNC/Tolerant Left™ will harshly punish their own icons and "influencers" for even a small slip-up of dissent against the Leftist Agenda. They attack their own supporters just as vehemently as they attack Patriots, because Leftists insist on flawless 100% compliance with all aspects of the ever-changing Leftist Agenda (even, or especially, if an "offense" was committed in the past long before "wokeness" was invented.) Allowing these people any degree of control over our lives is insanity.
tl;dr DNC Voter Fraud is the true opponent in the 2020 Election. If strong decisive measures are not taken immediately, the combination of DNC Voter Fraud plus imported "replacement voters" (immigrants both legal and illegal) will guarantee the permanent "success" of their long-term population-replacement strategy.
It’s pretty hard to vote left if you just think about their tactics as a whole. I’m sure people here and there in the party haven’t been bought, like Tulsi, but the broad strokes are really damning. Make accountability for voting harder. Import voters. Let non citizens vote. Give free stuff to anyone in exchange for votes. I believe in manmade climate change, and some policies here and there on the left are fine, but it’s pretty clear that they only support or refute any issue based on whether or not they can use it to grab power.
Most republicans aren’t much better, but at least they’re not trying to fucking replace Americans with low wage illegal workers to make a slave state. It’s ‘Disney villain’ bad and obvious.
I’ve tried talking to people online about it on some issues like Voter ID, and all the responses I get read like they were made by fake accounts working from the same play book based on them recycling commonly used ways of referring to things. Kind of like fake reviews on a movie site. You put them all in a spread sheet and find out 80% of them were all made from a few strings of key phrases. It’s like the online support for that party isn’t even real.
At least on places like the Donald, which are heavily biased in favor of Trump to the extent you can be, they let people debate things and call each other out. People have dissenting views. Not everyone agrees. Everything’s pretty organic. Go some place like r/pol, and it all reads like a bunch of hired people talking to each other.
I think one trick Trump could do is unveil some kind of voting verification system that makes fraud impossible. If he could brand it and launch it effectively, now would be a good time to do it because the Democrats have already put so much energy into their “Russian hacking” narrative. One possibility might be to have the Military oversee the Election as a safeguard against Putin and other foreign actors. For the corporate media to criticize this, they would have to come out against the U.S. military, and that has always been something they have tried to avoid doing.
As it stands, they know that the next time a dem president wins, the country will never go red again. So they are doing all it takes to steal this election because they don't want to wait until 2024.
Correct. Trump is very likely the Last Republican President.
We have either a few months, or 5 years of relative normalcy left. (Not that we can enjoy that time in peace, look at the disruption Leftists/Democrats have wrought and they aren't even in full-panic mode just yet.)
He's trying to cheat you know
He's
trying to cheatcheating you knowThere are going to be so many stern words on Hannity! Tick tock
PA is fucked too.
There are only 26 states that have Republican governors. If every Democratic governor decides to go for mail in ballots then that is it pedes. We will lose no matter what. We need PA and Michigan. Now is not the time to sit back and just let these states get away with this because they were gonna be blue anyways. Not to mention the importance of winning back house seats, which are even easier for Dems to fuck with.
PA already gerrymandered districts. Dem owned Supreme Court is crooked AF. PA also has a long list of Democrat government officials in jail yet the stupid people continue to vote Democrat blindly
And what do you suggest we do? Lol. They don't give a fuck what I say.
Physically remove traitors from their offices. Trump wasn't joking when he said "LIBERATE" these states.
Yes, physical force has been implicitly given permission by POTUS by ordering the liberation of several states.
Right. Sure. Nice fantasy. I'd prefer to not have a felony conviction and go to prison.
They can't send you to prison if they aren't in power
When this hits SCOTUS - and it will - the smackdown on Cuomo's illegal order is going to be epic.
Can SCOTUS override this, because the states have the authority to run their own elections?
SCOTUS has regularly intervened when a state voting case has gotten to them, usually cases around re-districting so there's precedent there.
Again, once someone sues the shit out of Cuomo and NY state itself it winds up in federal court and the appeals process pretty much guarantees that SCOTUS is going to see it.
There might be some angle that this method doesn't follow the states own Constitution and is therefore null and void.
At the least we have that angle for any congressman they try to send to DC.
maybe, but I wouldn't count on it
So send it in and then go vote? Not a good sign at all. This is some scary shit.
see how fast it happens? this is coming to a town near you.
there was no fight, no discussion, its just done. Too late and fuck you, he just snaps his fingers and thats IT.
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COMO and Lamont seem to be buddy buddy lately along with Jersey. I don't doubt CT will see vote by mail. Ugh. Already seeing it here in emails I'm getting from pedes in unions. They are pushing hard for it.
If the D's are going to cheat and play games with it, then why not conservatives? Harvest those MAGA voters and send boxes of votes in for this side. They want to change the rules, change it back on them.
Then the leftist DA's and the media alike will rigorously prosecute those conservatives, and quietly let the liberals cheat all they want even if they get caught.
Just like the proud boys that got attacked and vilified in NY
That isn't how it works. It's ballots filled in back rooms, made, not harvested. We can't go there.
Postage paid means they are literally buying votes, which is illegal as all fuck.
Vote buying. Look it up.
Cuomo paying for postage is literally, buying votes. Each postage paid envelope is a vote being bought.
We need to figure this out at a federal level god damn it. These fucking cheating ass corrupt people need to be rooted out and arrested. Mail in voting , fucking LOL. What a joke. Absolutely no vote integrity there at all.
HI, CO, OR, WA & UT
are all-mail-in voting states already. That's TEN senators who swing what we get out of the senate who were "elected" by systemic fraud.
THIS NEEDS TO BE A FEDERAL ISSUE.
That sounds good, I'll have that.
In what case does POTUS honor any ballots, mail-in or otherwise? It's really not up to him to decide. Not saying that what the Dems are doing is right, but POTUS saying he won't honor mail-in ballots carries as much weight as Pelosi saying she won't honor regular ballots.
No, it is not.
Article I Section 4
It is up to the States, and beyond that up to Congress.
My logic is what the Constitution says, so attack that.
What part of the Constitution is violated by your rhetorical example?
As far as I understand it, the only place where elections to Congress is mentioned is in the text I quoted. If elections are specifically mentioned elsewhere in the Constitution then by all means show me where.
If it is not prohibited by the Constitution, then it is allowed to happen. So from your rhetorical example, yes, the Federal government would not have any power to stop it, because the Federal govt is allowed only the powers specifically granted to it by the Constitution. You or I may not like it, but until it's amended that's still how it is.
And furthermore, since the original topic of this convo is whether POTUS can or cannot nullify any elections or the ballots or results thereof, what part of the Constitution gives him any of this authority?
Unfortunately it's in the constitution
Well the method of voting MAY be protected, but voter fraud still isnt. The method of voting leads to voter fraud, so if we can't get them on method we can still get them on fraud.... BUT SO FAR THAT DOESNT EVER HAPPEN EITHER.
THIS NEEDS TO BE A FEDERAL ISSUE.
Mail in voting is in the constitution?
States can decide how to hold their elections
your ballot wont matter if they do this. theyll have a box of fakes to take its place.
So I havent voted since 2004, is there a way to go back and make sure they never filled out a D ballot for me?
I've been wondering if I'm still voting in California, which I haven't lived in for some time now.
Go to the SOSwebsite in CA and check your voter history.
Your voter history should be on your states SOS website.
They will know beforehand who you will be likely to vote for. Any social media, clubs, guns, buying patterns, that tip off the likely conservative button on their AI will have your name marked for destruction months before the election.
One citizen, one vote to determine the state's contribution... This is done by: registered voting, voter ID voting, or in-person voting; or some combo. Absentee voting allows the Dead, the non-Citizen, and the Fraudster to vote. If Cuomo insists on this, we should deny his state's integrity, and refuse its fraud of a "vote"...
It's painfully obvious what is going on in this country right now. The Democrats are engineering a takeover of the election laws in every state that they can. 2020 is going to be a hell of a battle, but I'm confident the Democrats are going to get fucked in the end.
I still think Trump is going to win. Just a feeling.
He's spent almost 4 years at the helm as POTUS, he knows everything now. I think he will win in 2020 then go scorched earth on the MSM and Dems for what they tried to do to him and his family
100% democrat sweep, even on unopposed republican positions. Wow, amazing!
Orange County here. Checking in.
Trump needs to push the "Cuomo is trying to rig the election since he knows he won't get re-elected."
He is up for election this year.
The more distance between voters and their vote, the more chance for fraud.
American elections have extreme consequences for money and power. They are contentious and adversarial yet there are almost never repercussions for cheating. Anyone who thinks there is not extensive cheating happening is deluding themselves.
We are the only developed country that allows for this level of fraud. It will only take 1776 to change because we sure as hell aren't amending the Constitution
How many ballots will go to homeless shelters or nursing homes with dead or incapacitated voters?
Don't see how a mail-in ballot maintains a guarantee of a secret ballot.
Serious question: why don’t we cheat?
Because we aren’t morally bankrupt. We are the ones with the guns who need to get the boogaloo started.
How bout we cheat our asses off. Then Democrats will demand voter ID.
I agree, the time for playing an honest game with cheats on the other side of the table is over. Play by the same rules as your opponent or you are lost.
Or how about we use the laws as written. Treason is punishable by death.
The election is over four fucking months away. There's no good reason to do this except to get in their rigging. There's no way it's going to be "too dangerous" by November to go vote in person. Give me a break.
Does that mean that there will be no voting allowed at the polls? Because if not, there will be double voting galore
Another swing state bites the dust for the GOP.
Well house seats being subjected to mail in voter fraud is a real concern.
NY hasnt been a swing state in a loooong time
NY a swing state? It hasn't gone GOP since 1984.
It hasn't gone facetious since 1972.
Cuomo is the poster boy for democratic corruption in this crisis. Hiding ventilators. Not using HCQ. Fake death counts. Sending infected to nursing homes. Mail in voting. Complaining to media after massive federal help. Violating the constitution with mask orders and lockdowns.
Time to take away all his power. The NYC curves are finished. Overrule him on all of his decisions and OPEN NY STATE NOW.
If things are that bad by November that you are unable to go outside to vote.
Then it won't matter who is in the WH. As everything will be FUBAR. Maybe they get this or maybe not. Local governments will be out of money as the US government will be out of money.
They don't get if certain parts of America return to normal and those parts are run by the GOP they really risk being in a shitty position. Even in NY.
The only way to get these scum bags out of office is to physically throw them out. This is straight up fraud.
New York frens, please report to us if you receive one. I’m curious to know if there will be union labels printed on these.
it will take the hangings of people like COMEY, BRENNAN, OBAMA, HOLDER, LYNCH, RICE, POWER, etc. to get the message across. They have names and addresses and so do their families. We need to start "getting to" these fuckers like the Mob, and making them fear for their lives. Because right now they're just walking around free like whoopty-doo, after trying to overthrow a duly elected POTUS. They all need to die.
Night letters.
Mentioning that tidbit a couple years ago put me in the spotlight of Top Minds of Reddit, whoever that weak bunch of arrogant little fucktard spermshots are.
For the November Presidential election? Are you shitting me? It’s. It is not even May yet. They are so obvious in their intentions.
here they go.
and make sure to have D and R clearly visible to the mail carriers ...and tell the post mater to have liberal carriers pick up mail in red districts ...and then say OOPS its just an error when called out on it.
All they need is a supermajority in house and senate. They dont even need to steal the presidential election. They will try, but they can settle for supermajorities.
New Yorkers, please remember to attach your ballot in the PREPAID envelope and tape the envelope to a red brick before mailing.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THIS PATRIOT A BRICK! THAT'S 168315 BRICKS HANDED OUT!
We are at 23.7069492903166111085039520% of our goal to BUILD THE WALL starting from Imperial Beach, CA to Brownsville, Texas! Let's make sure everyone gets a brick in the United States! For every Centipede a brick, for every brick a Centipede!
At this rate, the wall will be 1850.79912973905943112010780 MILES WIDE and 493.254516704041511796162555 FEET HIGH by tomorrow! DO YOUR PART!
The resurgence of the corrupt Tammany Hall on steroids.
I plan to record myself burning mine. I will vote in person.
He's a bit ahead of the curve here, over his skis as it were. They can't keep people locked down until November, not without a revolt that is. I'm afraid that they wouldn't like the outcome if it ever came to that.
Oh look for those forced signatures.
It has begun. They are stealing the election.
He can't be bothered to make sure the hospitals have all the equipment they need, but he is right on top of ordering these.
4chan is the only path to salvation
It’s over the countries finished, big tech and the liberals ruined it