How many parents are quickly learning that in a 7 hour school day, teachers are giving their students about 14 minutes of “Work” to do?
Also during the shutdown/remote learning, somehow school work has become “Watch this YouTube video of your teacher talking about how much they miss you, and showing you their dog”.
My mother taught me how to multiply and do long division because my teacher thought I wasn't smart enough. Later as teen she, me reading Dostoevsky, and numerous autobiographies of smart men, after "school". I've lost all respect for public school teachers, they were my first introduction to government incompetence. Useless eaters.
Many of them also are a slave to the mandate of data collection and metrics. I think a good number of them want to teach but spend a disproportionate amount of time having to satisfy government required paperwork and shit. Source: cousin's wife was a teacher. Quit because she wasn't teaching.
On a side note, at least in Virginia, teachers are still getting paid. A few of them are pushing the "we can't open the economy, think of the second wave!". I'll bet the change their tune come fall if the schools don't open and they don't get paid.
You are correct. If we stopped paying the teachers and government employees (including Governors and congress) this shutdown would be over tomorrow. Think of all the screeching in the past when they’ve shut down the government...oh no! This is devastating! Reopen the government! But when it’s the private sector-stay home indefinitely. No worries guys. Read a book! Assholes
They don't care. Essentially 100% of teachers are women. They're not the primary breadwinner of the family. They'll just become stay at home wives watching Netflix, getting fat, and banging everyone in the city, while their husbands now work even harder and spend less time at home.
The good thing about this virus, cases of teachers raping children are going to fall off a cliff.
Too many do, yes. It really depends on the expectations that admin places on the teacher, as well as the support the teacher gets. The trouble is most teachers are given a set of keys, a room, and 25 kids, and told "have fun, I'll check on you in December."
With low accountability, and low support, it becomes sink or swim, and many teachers sink. They either burn out and leave teaching, or they give up and conclude that some kids are able to get it, and others are not, and that's just how life is. The ones that survive and are able to become good teachers are the ones that have great mentors come alongside them and support and guide them, but there aren't as many good mentors as there are teachers needing mentors.
I'm a high school teacher, and I've got colleagues that are spectacular teachers that are spending 8 to 10 hours a day right now teaching, working with small groups. Designing lessons that can be delivered virtually, etc. I also got colleagues that are just emailing recordings of themselves droning on, tack on a few practice problems and their students have there lesson for the day.
Most teachers WANT to do better, they just don't know how. I know the perks and pay are actually pretty great for teachers, but if you are a teacher for that alone, it won't carry you through when things get tough, and when you are dealing with groups of kids things do get tough.
My sister is a highschool teacher and she is loving this quarantine. She said she doesn't have to deal with asshole students anymore and those who refuse to log in and do the lesson plan will fail out and have to retake it next year.
She loves teaching, according to her, but she hates dealing with certain students. This way, she doesn't have to deal with them and she can continue to teach the way she wants without being interrupted by some smart ass in class trying to be cool.
You bring up an important point. The amount of actual work and learning that is going on is almost laughable. I guess they don't want to overwork the kiddos or some shit. The amount of work can be condensed into an hour or two a day, max. It's really opened my eyes and my kid can expect an increase of home learning.
I am a high school teacher; so much of the learning that happens in the classroom (at least my classroom) is based on the direct feedback and questions that students ask and wonder in the moment. While I record lectures every day, my energy is waning because I dont have the students immediate feedback to respond to, so I have to assume what their questions will be.
I miss my students, and for the most part the interaction we get from them is a message asking if they can still turn in a late assignment I am hesitant to do live lectures through Zoom because its owned by China and I don't want the kids supporting that, and because of all of the security risks associated.
As far as workload is concerned I have students who can finish everything in a couple of hours per day, and others who take all day because they have (actual) learning issues, or because they have multiple siblings all sharing the same computer.
Online teaching and learning sucks, but it comes down to how much effort the parents are putting into promoting self discipline and motivation.
I forgot where I was going with this; thanks for reading to whoever got this far.
"Online teaching and learning sucks, but it comes down to how much effort the parents are putting into promoting self discipline and motivation."
Absolutely. While there are some bad teachers out there, there are many more that are seriously invested in helping educate children effectively. But it is ultimately the parents' responsibility to make sure their children are taught correctly, which includes self-discipline and motivation. Some things that are unfortunately lacking in some parents.
Online learning is how I got through chemistry class, so I wouldn't dog on it too much. I've seen what these kids are doing now via the teen that lives with me, and it's almost laughable. 2-3 hours tops and they are done for the day. Hell, the 10 year old in my house can do everything from her iPad.
I'm not saying teachers are useless, I'm just saying the classroom environment is slowly going the way of the dodo.
When I was a kid, I took a month vacation with my family during the school year. The teacher gave me the lessons that were planned for that time. I finished them in two hours on the trip before we even reached our destination and enjoyed a month with no schoolwork. When I returned, I hadn't missed a beat. I probably could have completed the full semester of work, but as a kid, I just was glad to have a month out of school. The life-long lesson I got from it was that too many teachers are overpaid and unnecessary.
My brother in law is doing remote schooling right now. He literally wakes up around 11 am, does maybe about 2 hours of actual homework and watches 1 lecture, then he has the rest of the day to fuck off.
THAT is our education system folks.
Why these kids have to be crammed in a classroom for 8 hours a day is beyond me.
Hell, I'm working from home right now and I feel same way about my job. I can literally do everything from home, remotely. Why do I need to be on site to do literally the same shit?
I hope this quarantine was a major wake up call for most people and companies.
It takes a teacher 8 hours to deliver 15 minutes of lessons to 20 kids because they have forced standard classes to take on at least 3-4 SpEd kids. Some are on the spectrum some have behavioral issues. Some are just fuckups with shit for parents.
It’s not that they want Every Student to Succeed… they’ve just dumbed down what success should mean to advanced students so they are forced to learn at the levels of the least capable students…and if you’re very, very lucky your student will make it through school without being physically harmed while one of the fuck-ups is having their little meltdowns.
How many parents are quickly learning that in a 7 hour school day, teachers are giving their students about 14 minutes of “Work” to do?
Also during the shutdown/remote learning, somehow school work has become “Watch this YouTube video of your teacher talking about how much they miss you, and showing you their dog”.
My mother taught me how to multiply and do long division because my teacher thought I wasn't smart enough. Later as teen she, me reading Dostoevsky, and numerous autobiographies of smart men, after "school". I've lost all respect for public school teachers, they were my first introduction to government incompetence. Useless eaters.
Many of them also are a slave to the mandate of data collection and metrics. I think a good number of them want to teach but spend a disproportionate amount of time having to satisfy government required paperwork and shit. Source: cousin's wife was a teacher. Quit because she wasn't teaching.
On a side note, at least in Virginia, teachers are still getting paid. A few of them are pushing the "we can't open the economy, think of the second wave!". I'll bet the change their tune come fall if the schools don't open and they don't get paid.
You are correct. If we stopped paying the teachers and government employees (including Governors and congress) this shutdown would be over tomorrow. Think of all the screeching in the past when they’ve shut down the government...oh no! This is devastating! Reopen the government! But when it’s the private sector-stay home indefinitely. No worries guys. Read a book! Assholes
They don't care. Essentially 100% of teachers are women. They're not the primary breadwinner of the family. They'll just become stay at home wives watching Netflix, getting fat, and banging everyone in the city, while their husbands now work even harder and spend less time at home.
The good thing about this virus, cases of teachers raping children are going to fall off a cliff.
My high school history teacher assured us that the Ukraine famine happened because "the farmers didn't have seeds".
Whitmer is Stalin!
Too many do, yes. It really depends on the expectations that admin places on the teacher, as well as the support the teacher gets. The trouble is most teachers are given a set of keys, a room, and 25 kids, and told "have fun, I'll check on you in December."
With low accountability, and low support, it becomes sink or swim, and many teachers sink. They either burn out and leave teaching, or they give up and conclude that some kids are able to get it, and others are not, and that's just how life is. The ones that survive and are able to become good teachers are the ones that have great mentors come alongside them and support and guide them, but there aren't as many good mentors as there are teachers needing mentors.
I'm a high school teacher, and I've got colleagues that are spectacular teachers that are spending 8 to 10 hours a day right now teaching, working with small groups. Designing lessons that can be delivered virtually, etc. I also got colleagues that are just emailing recordings of themselves droning on, tack on a few practice problems and their students have there lesson for the day.
Most teachers WANT to do better, they just don't know how. I know the perks and pay are actually pretty great for teachers, but if you are a teacher for that alone, it won't carry you through when things get tough, and when you are dealing with groups of kids things do get tough.
My sister is a highschool teacher and she is loving this quarantine. She said she doesn't have to deal with asshole students anymore and those who refuse to log in and do the lesson plan will fail out and have to retake it next year.
She loves teaching, according to her, but she hates dealing with certain students. This way, she doesn't have to deal with them and she can continue to teach the way she wants without being interrupted by some smart ass in class trying to be cool.
I concur.
I don't get why it was so hard. Lots of government schools already have online school.
School is daycare with a side of learning.
You bring up an important point. The amount of actual work and learning that is going on is almost laughable. I guess they don't want to overwork the kiddos or some shit. The amount of work can be condensed into an hour or two a day, max. It's really opened my eyes and my kid can expect an increase of home learning.
I am a high school teacher; so much of the learning that happens in the classroom (at least my classroom) is based on the direct feedback and questions that students ask and wonder in the moment. While I record lectures every day, my energy is waning because I dont have the students immediate feedback to respond to, so I have to assume what their questions will be.
I miss my students, and for the most part the interaction we get from them is a message asking if they can still turn in a late assignment I am hesitant to do live lectures through Zoom because its owned by China and I don't want the kids supporting that, and because of all of the security risks associated.
As far as workload is concerned I have students who can finish everything in a couple of hours per day, and others who take all day because they have (actual) learning issues, or because they have multiple siblings all sharing the same computer.
Online teaching and learning sucks, but it comes down to how much effort the parents are putting into promoting self discipline and motivation.
I forgot where I was going with this; thanks for reading to whoever got this far.
"Online teaching and learning sucks, but it comes down to how much effort the parents are putting into promoting self discipline and motivation."
Absolutely. While there are some bad teachers out there, there are many more that are seriously invested in helping educate children effectively. But it is ultimately the parents' responsibility to make sure their children are taught correctly, which includes self-discipline and motivation. Some things that are unfortunately lacking in some parents.
Lol.
Online learning is how I got through chemistry class, so I wouldn't dog on it too much. I've seen what these kids are doing now via the teen that lives with me, and it's almost laughable. 2-3 hours tops and they are done for the day. Hell, the 10 year old in my house can do everything from her iPad.
I'm not saying teachers are useless, I'm just saying the classroom environment is slowly going the way of the dodo.
When I was a kid, I took a month vacation with my family during the school year. The teacher gave me the lessons that were planned for that time. I finished them in two hours on the trip before we even reached our destination and enjoyed a month with no schoolwork. When I returned, I hadn't missed a beat. I probably could have completed the full semester of work, but as a kid, I just was glad to have a month out of school. The life-long lesson I got from it was that too many teachers are overpaid and unnecessary.
Teachers I know are loving this. They are getting paid full salary to basically have six months off this year.
This makes parents realize how much of the school day is just filler.
My brother in law is doing remote schooling right now. He literally wakes up around 11 am, does maybe about 2 hours of actual homework and watches 1 lecture, then he has the rest of the day to fuck off.
THAT is our education system folks.
Why these kids have to be crammed in a classroom for 8 hours a day is beyond me.
Hell, I'm working from home right now and I feel same way about my job. I can literally do everything from home, remotely. Why do I need to be on site to do literally the same shit?
I hope this quarantine was a major wake up call for most people and companies.
It takes a teacher 8 hours to deliver 15 minutes of lessons to 20 kids because they have forced standard classes to take on at least 3-4 SpEd kids. Some are on the spectrum some have behavioral issues. Some are just fuckups with shit for parents.
It’s not that they want Every Student to Succeed… they’ve just dumbed down what success should mean to advanced students so they are forced to learn at the levels of the least capable students…and if you’re very, very lucky your student will make it through school without being physically harmed while one of the fuck-ups is having their little meltdowns.