It’s how they’re taught. Lie, play the victim, use the emotions of the infidel to slander and undermine the West. Here this contestant does all of this while ignoring that it is only Western values that allow him to live, let alone dress up as a woman and give him a platform to spew this garbage. Let’s see how that victimhood mentality plays out anywhere else in the world.
I'm a gay pede too. So glad he brought that up. Back in college when I was stuck with the the idiot pandering liberals I had to endure this Islam is peace crap. I was the only one to push back on them and to use direct quotes from that disgusting book to prove them wrong. I was told that English doesn't fully capture the beauty of the Koran and that I didn't really know the meaning. I asked the girl (some white chick who converted to Islam for her boyfriend) to beautifully describe how they throw gays off buildings, beat women, enslave other races, and rape kids. Should have seen the backlash I got that day
Do they not know what happens to gays in the Islamic world??? Have they seen the videos of them getting thrown off rooftops and getting hanged in Saudi Arabia?
"Listen, that is just a small subset of the population and in no way reflects what actual Muslims believe or do, and even if you demonstrably prove me wrong on that (and you very easily can and will) the reason this sort of savagery happens is because of the evil western imperialism from American capitalism."
It makes me laugh every time I run across it, because it's so ridiculous.
How is it that Arabic is the only language that supposedly has words and phrases that are literally untranslatable? If Arabic can be learned, then it can be translated. If it can be translated, then there is no need to learn it.
More importantly, why in the world would the demon-god Allah choose to communicate his one true "universal" cult for all people in the only language that cannot be translated for all people?
No world religion claims that it can only be understood in one language. Only the death cult of Islam claims this, and that claim only surfaces in discussions of ayat (verses) that are embarrassing or uncomfortable for Muslims to face.
Not to mention the Koran was written in classical Arabic -- an obscure Quraish dialect which has not been commonly used in over a thousand years and is known only by a few hundred people alive today. Those people are typically Wahabbi scholars, who, ironically, are accused of taking the Koran "too literally."
The Koran has been translated from Arabic by Arabic speakers: devout Muslims whose linguistic expertise far exceeds that of any armchair apologist who pretends to know better. The idea that they would deliberately mangle an interpretation to cast Islam in an unflattering light is unthinkable to any Muslim.
They don't get to have it both ways. They can't declare that (for some strange reason) the "perfect book" of the Koran can't be translated and that Allah's "perfect" death cult thus cannot be understood by most of humanity.
Also, how is it that "the Koran can only be understood in Arabic" applies only to critics of Islam and not to its advocates? Apologists never claim that Arabic is a barrier to understanding Islam when it is lauded as a "religion of peace." Neither do they qualify the claim that "Islam is the fastest growing religion" with the caveat that new converts don't understand Islam since they can't read the Koran in Arabic.
The real reason for this childish game is that modern technology has made the full history and texts of Islam available to everyone and the contents are highly embarrassing for Muslims.
Pretending that different meanings exist in Arabic is merely a pathetic attempt at saving face.
I speak two languages. It's true that sometimes there is no direct translation for a certain concept (the phrase would make no sense structured in English for example), but there is always a way to translate to something roughly equivalent. You might miss some nuance or shade of meaning, but the core concept will be there.
Every human deals with the same world and the same ideas, so obviously we are all going to find a way to describe them all. And you're right, the Muslims would make their holy book as accurate as possible.
I read “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus” and it was a really good book, about a devout moderate Muslim who goes around and around debating religion with a friend through college and ultimately converts to Christianity.
It was very helpful in understanding how culturally they approach their religion and I discovered that some Muslims may not read certain passages in their book if their leaders don’t show it to them. It was helpful to me to understand that some Muslims may not be practicing taqqiya (sp?)
The author sadly passed away but he has a YouTube video out with his conversion story.
You won't get far using logic, reason or morality with the Left, because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt. Islam is very important to the Left, and they will protect and defend it at all costs.
This. I quite dislike any phrase that starts with: "Speaking to you as I [gay person, person of colour, etc]". Identity politics is a conquer and divide strategy.
The only things that matters is your behaviour because it is the ultimate gauge of intent.
Islam is more important to leftists than LGBT, so islam will win every time. This has been demonstrated repeatedly. Remember the Orlando nightclub jihadist? He specifically targeted gays and proclaimed himself a jihadi loyal to ISIS, and the leftists immediately branded him a right winger who was secretly gay and proclaimed that attack had nothing to do with islam.
It’s how they’re taught. Lie, play the victim, use the emotions of the infidel to slander and undermine the West. Here this contestant does all of this while ignoring that it is only Western values that allow him to live, let alone dress up as a woman and give him a platform to spew this garbage. Let’s see how that victimhood mentality plays out anywhere else in the world.
Pronouns are gay.
I'm a gay pede too. So glad he brought that up. Back in college when I was stuck with the the idiot pandering liberals I had to endure this Islam is peace crap. I was the only one to push back on them and to use direct quotes from that disgusting book to prove them wrong. I was told that English doesn't fully capture the beauty of the Koran and that I didn't really know the meaning. I asked the girl (some white chick who converted to Islam for her boyfriend) to beautifully describe how they throw gays off buildings, beat women, enslave other races, and rape kids. Should have seen the backlash I got that day
Progressives: “we need to abandon Christianity because the Church discriminated against gays.”
Also Progressives: “YEAAAAAAH ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Spez: had a college professor who it’s that mold. Went to Afghanistan and married a guy. Finally saw the truth and divorced him.
Ten years later she was still getting death threats from him. I don’t think even then that I realized how serious those threats were.
Women marrying Muslim men is like chickens marrying KFC.
Or something. Anyway, you get the idea.
"Listen, that is just a small subset of the population and in no way reflects what actual Muslims believe or do, and even if you demonstrably prove me wrong on that (and you very easily can and will) the reason this sort of savagery happens is because of the evil western imperialism from American capitalism."
-Pretty much every globalist idiot on reddit
Wow, grade A gaslighting.
It makes me laugh every time I run across it, because it's so ridiculous.
How is it that Arabic is the only language that supposedly has words and phrases that are literally untranslatable? If Arabic can be learned, then it can be translated. If it can be translated, then there is no need to learn it.
More importantly, why in the world would the demon-god Allah choose to communicate his one true "universal" cult for all people in the only language that cannot be translated for all people?
No world religion claims that it can only be understood in one language. Only the death cult of Islam claims this, and that claim only surfaces in discussions of ayat (verses) that are embarrassing or uncomfortable for Muslims to face.
Not to mention the Koran was written in classical Arabic -- an obscure Quraish dialect which has not been commonly used in over a thousand years and is known only by a few hundred people alive today. Those people are typically Wahabbi scholars, who, ironically, are accused of taking the Koran "too literally."
The Koran has been translated from Arabic by Arabic speakers: devout Muslims whose linguistic expertise far exceeds that of any armchair apologist who pretends to know better. The idea that they would deliberately mangle an interpretation to cast Islam in an unflattering light is unthinkable to any Muslim.
They don't get to have it both ways. They can't declare that (for some strange reason) the "perfect book" of the Koran can't be translated and that Allah's "perfect" death cult thus cannot be understood by most of humanity.
Also, how is it that "the Koran can only be understood in Arabic" applies only to critics of Islam and not to its advocates? Apologists never claim that Arabic is a barrier to understanding Islam when it is lauded as a "religion of peace." Neither do they qualify the claim that "Islam is the fastest growing religion" with the caveat that new converts don't understand Islam since they can't read the Koran in Arabic.
The real reason for this childish game is that modern technology has made the full history and texts of Islam available to everyone and the contents are highly embarrassing for Muslims.
Pretending that different meanings exist in Arabic is merely a pathetic attempt at saving face.
I speak two languages. It's true that sometimes there is no direct translation for a certain concept (the phrase would make no sense structured in English for example), but there is always a way to translate to something roughly equivalent. You might miss some nuance or shade of meaning, but the core concept will be there.
Every human deals with the same world and the same ideas, so obviously we are all going to find a way to describe them all. And you're right, the Muslims would make their holy book as accurate as possible.
I read “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus” and it was a really good book, about a devout moderate Muslim who goes around and around debating religion with a friend through college and ultimately converts to Christianity.
It was very helpful in understanding how culturally they approach their religion and I discovered that some Muslims may not read certain passages in their book if their leaders don’t show it to them. It was helpful to me to understand that some Muslims may not be practicing taqqiya (sp?)
The author sadly passed away but he has a YouTube video out with his conversion story.
You won't get far using logic, reason or morality with the Left, because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt. Islam is very important to the Left, and they will protect and defend it at all costs.
This. I quite dislike any phrase that starts with: "Speaking to you as I [gay person, person of colour, etc]". Identity politics is a conquer and divide strategy.
The only things that matters is your behaviour because it is the ultimate gauge of intent.
And then he goes on to scree about how he deserves to be and American and be in America.
Islam is more important to leftists than LGBT, so islam will win every time. This has been demonstrated repeatedly. Remember the Orlando nightclub jihadist? He specifically targeted gays and proclaimed himself a jihadi loyal to ISIS, and the leftists immediately branded him a right winger who was secretly gay and proclaimed that attack had nothing to do with islam.