I just recently watched a video from YouTube/FEE, speaking about the narrative of "it's just business" and how Hollywood repeatedly connected "businessmen" and "business" with "evil" and "bad guys." It's literal indoctrination and I can't say it didn't affect me as well, even if subconsciously. It's little things like this that shift people towards Marxism and to become anti-"capitalist."
How many times did they use the words "Bill Clinton" or "Janet Reno"? They give you a sliver of truth to gain your trust (ATF/FBI fucking up) so that they can serve you up the lies and narratives. Its one of the medias/hollywoods top tactics. Its a modern whitewashing of one of the most important events in the history of our nation.
I saw it back when it was on tv (and I thought it was pretty good), so I'm going off memory; I know Reno was mentioned and there was an actor playing her part on the show, and she was on screen. I don't remember exactly how many times they mentioned it. Clinton I can't remember. I definitely don't think, based on what I saw, that the FBI\ATF came out of that show looking very good.
They specifically never mention their names though. Its implied who they are. Its also implied they were being misled and had little or nothing to do with the situation (which evidence shows is not true).
My wife was 5 years old at the time. I was 13 so I at least remember it happening. I keep injecting, "fucking Clinton or fucking Janet Reno" into it so I know she knows.
They killed 25 CHILDREN! American’s on US soil! It was an unimaginable disgrace no matter how crazy Koresh was. And don’t dismiss that it was a Christian cult because it most certainly was. They showed no credible evidence of any provocation by the branch members. This was a colossal fuck up, and you should be just as concerned of militarized government overreach - on our own soil - as anyone else.
It was REEEEEEtared strategy. Let’s roll up “full on military” on the fucking people paranoid that the government is going to roll up on them “full on military” and shoot the shit out of their church. Competing history says there was no cease fire agreement, that after 45 mins the atf literally ran out of fucking ammo and had to retreat. The atf learned that day you can’t fuck with churches in Texas. Remember the Alamo.
That is so sad. Some years ago, I saw a video tape of David Koresh calling during the siege and asking if they could take care of a guy that was shot near an entry way a few days previous, who was taking a look outside, but shot dead by agents. He was starting to decompose in the Texas heat..
Not going to lie, watching the ATF limp away with their tails between their legs was very satisfying. It sucks that agents died, but you can't say they didn't ask for it.
Hell no it doesn't suck. Every single one of those cops and agents is a murderer and child killer. Every single one. It sucks that more evil men didn't die. The fact that they didn't go home that night and commit suicide in shame when they realized they had burned children alive shows they're not even human. They're fucking monsters.
you should show her the clusterfuck that was Ruby Ridge, most of the Feds there were at Waco as well. resulted in the guys wife being shot dead by a sniper while carrying her baby.
Reno should be arrested and charged with murder for both Ruby and Waco.
Your girlfriend has some comprehension issues. That video was damning to the ATF and FBI as is the Time documentary on Youtube. Amazing how the media manipulated people at the time to think otherwise
I watched it this morning and only in the intro where they had the fbi snipe that guy and kill his wife, they were calling them white supremacists or something like that. I don’t know enough about David Koresh to really gauge whether they portrayed him accurately. However, they did accurately portray the FBIs notorious ability to lie and twist the media coverage. Also, I found the correlation of fbi using tear gas and fires disturbing
Yup, this. I was in the 1st or second grade during Waco. I’ve always known of it but never very well. After watching the series though, I am curious about how to unlock that 6th seal!!!
I mean, I've seen the left call Candace Owens a white supremacist with a straight face. I'm not surprised. The Branch Davidians on the show definitely weren't all white.
The series actually starts out with the whole Ruby Ridge clusterfuck, but it’s only the first episode and is how they lay the groundwork for the feds getting a hard-on for Waco.
Despite this series being Netflix and going in expecting it to be slanted a certain way, I thought it was pretty well done. And to your point, I’d really like to see a similar series for Ruby Ridge.
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I hate when people say, based on accusations, "Yeah, but Koresh was a child molester." --As if Justice was served by the government killing all the alleged VICTIMS.
As long as you kill the child predator, kill as many innocent people as you want. The argument makes ZERO sense.
They do character assassination before the real assassination. They can turn nearly anyone into garbage with a label, then people don't care when they're thrown out.
The link text and article seems to contain fake news "fbi-raids-clinic-offers-vitamin-c-shots-fight-coronavirus/." Not accusing you, I just wonder if the fbi/msm falsely accused them of saying it cures cv19 instead of what they actually advertised which could be something like "boost your immune system with vitamin C."
Every one should see Waco. It was surprisingly very fair to the branch dividians, and very sympathetic towards koresh and followers. They made a point showing how horrible the atf and fbi responded. That last episode was hell to watch tho, i have a 4 year old, i can't imagine the hell of what happened to the poor kids. Gassing them, knowing the gas was considered a war crime, but using it on children because of some stupid loophole. Knowing gasmasks couldn't help children, knowing it was flammable, and knowing the children were gathered in the bottom room and gassing them in and collapsing the compound where they couldn't escape. David thibadox has a great youtube video where he's doing a q and a book tour a few years later, great insite. David wasn't a cult member, he was observing everything, knew David wasn't a profit, but he liked the group of people and their way of life. Such a sad story
Imagine the outrage if a raid like this happened at a mosque during the Trump/Barr administration instead of a "white supremacist" (it wasn't) compound.
I look at the same way as the Benghazi movie 13 Hours, it focuses on the event, and leaves the higher level politics largely out of the story.
Not saying that is a good thing, but the movies themselves don't try to spin the people involved in the actual event.
Absence of the high level political views is not necessarily propaganda, as propaganda usually shows you something, something that someone wants you to believe. This series just avoided it, but was perfectly clear that it was the government that had bad intentions, it just kept the focus on the ground for the most part.
Think of it this way, if they would have went after Clinton and others, the movie would never have seen the light of day, This way, the way it was done, at least people get a reasonable portrayal of the event, and can begin to think about things and figure it out themselves who was pulling the strings.
I was in high school when this happened. I come from a law enforcement family that has a family member killed in the line of duty. At the time, I was seething mad at Koresh for killing the ATF agents. I had no prior knowledge of Ruby Ridge and of course the media didn't tell us the whole story. I don't remember them talking much about the guns that the Davidians had, just about how Koresh was a child molester. I remember watching the compound burn live on tv because I had stayed home from school sick that day. As I got older, I looked more into what happened and it absolutely floored me to find out about the actions of the government, the BATFE, and the FBI. I was brought up thinking that they were the good guys. Hell, I was a criminal justice major in college and one of my professors was a retired BATFE agent (He HATED that acronym. He wanted it to just be called the ATF.). I'm glad that I never applied to the BATFE. My professor was always pushing me to. Hell, I got such a distaste for federal law enforcement that I never pursued that career at all, when at one time I was almost obsessed with becoming a federal agent and fighting bad guys.
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"I come from a law enforcement family that has a family member killed in the line of duty. At the time, I was seething mad at Koresh for killing the ATF agents."
This is how the government generates sympathy. If every family has at least 1 member in the "services" (Fire, LE, Military) they are likely to side with the government.
The Sunday before the raid, there was a huge article in our state paper, in MS on the second page above the fold about Koresh. I remember thinking, “This guy is going to get it”. Days later, the raid happened.
I wish I had kept that paper as evidence of the government set up.
They had ample opportunities to arrest him and didn’t. They wanted a show of force.
Star Wars Reference. The emperor had the clone army made but they were loyal to him and not the Republic. When he pit out the call they followed and killed all the Jedi.
At the time the clinton admin was in full-blown propaganda mode against "militias" and similar groups.
When Clinton was campaigning in Seattle, he had to stand behind huge sheets of bullet proof glass. He had an axe to grind agains his perceived enemies.
I haven't watched it because I'm MORE than sure that Hollywood and Netflix have spun it as, white man bad, white men have guns bad, white men with guns who want to be left alone - DANGEROUS.
I expected as much, so didn't bother. All media, with very few exceptions, is leftist propaganda now.
I just recently watched a video from YouTube/FEE, speaking about the narrative of "it's just business" and how Hollywood repeatedly connected "businessmen" and "business" with "evil" and "bad guys." It's literal indoctrination and I can't say it didn't affect me as well, even if subconsciously. It's little things like this that shift people towards Marxism and to become anti-"capitalist."
Henry F. Potter did nothing wrong!
Sorry what? Of course I watched it, that's why I linked it.
I saw it, and it was pretty sympathetic to the Branch Davidians, showed that they had all races as members and was pretty damning of the ATF and FBI
How many times did they use the words "Bill Clinton" or "Janet Reno"? They give you a sliver of truth to gain your trust (ATF/FBI fucking up) so that they can serve you up the lies and narratives. Its one of the medias/hollywoods top tactics. Its a modern whitewashing of one of the most important events in the history of our nation.
I saw it back when it was on tv (and I thought it was pretty good), so I'm going off memory; I know Reno was mentioned and there was an actor playing her part on the show, and she was on screen. I don't remember exactly how many times they mentioned it. Clinton I can't remember. I definitely don't think, based on what I saw, that the FBI\ATF came out of that show looking very good.
The main FBI officer goes to Janet Reno in a brief scene where he asks for permission to use the tear gas. She says she will ask the President.
So, they make it clear that they both made that final decision. Other than that, the entire show is focused on the ATF/FBI.
They specifically never mention their names though. Its implied who they are. Its also implied they were being misled and had little or nothing to do with the situation (which evidence shows is not true).
My wife was 5 years old at the time. I was 13 so I at least remember it happening. I keep injecting, "fucking Clinton or fucking Janet Reno" into it so I know she knows.
One other good point it made was about the militarization of the Feds and GayTF.
Or they could have just waited them out. Going in with guns and tanks blazing was asinine.
Muh Followin orders durrrrr
The sheriff knew Koresh and swore up and down that Koresh would've gone with him willingly.
The whole operation was run from Washington by Hillary Clinton. Read "Hillary (and Bill) The Murder Volume" by Victor Thorn
They killed 25 CHILDREN! American’s on US soil! It was an unimaginable disgrace no matter how crazy Koresh was. And don’t dismiss that it was a Christian cult because it most certainly was. They showed no credible evidence of any provocation by the branch members. This was a colossal fuck up, and you should be just as concerned of militarized government overreach - on our own soil - as anyone else.
It was REEEEEEtared strategy. Let’s roll up “full on military” on the fucking people paranoid that the government is going to roll up on them “full on military” and shoot the shit out of their church. Competing history says there was no cease fire agreement, that after 45 mins the atf literally ran out of fucking ammo and had to retreat. The atf learned that day you can’t fuck with churches in Texas. Remember the Alamo.
That is so sad. Some years ago, I saw a video tape of David Koresh calling during the siege and asking if they could take care of a guy that was shot near an entry way a few days previous, who was taking a look outside, but shot dead by agents. He was starting to decompose in the Texas heat..
Not going to lie, watching the ATF limp away with their tails between their legs was very satisfying. It sucks that agents died, but you can't say they didn't ask for it.
Fuck those agents, every single one of them deserved to die.
If you saw what leadership was doing, and still participated, you earned the blood on your hands.
Hell no it doesn't suck. Every single one of those cops and agents is a murderer and child killer. Every single one. It sucks that more evil men didn't die. The fact that they didn't go home that night and commit suicide in shame when they realized they had burned children alive shows they're not even human. They're fucking monsters.
Or firetrucks when their had been multiple incidents of CS gas igniting and starting fires.
Same. I just finished it, and it was totally about the heavy handedness of the FBI. Especially that fat guy from the Joker movie.
you should show her the clusterfuck that was Ruby Ridge, most of the Feds there were at Waco as well. resulted in the guys wife being shot dead by a sniper while carrying her baby.
Reno should be arrested and charged with murder for both Ruby and Waco.
too late. she died 3.5 years ago.
cant be, she's still voting democrat.
They cover that in the very first episode.
Iirc, the same fuck-up (or just evil) sniper was at Waco and Ruby Ridge
I think he was just a major fuck-up that, coupled with a VERY lax RoE, ended up activating his fuck-up powers.
IIRC, basically they were given the green light for lethal force on anyone in the house.
The first episode takes place during Ruby Ridge, including the wife being shot by the sniper.
Your girlfriend has some comprehension issues. That video was damning to the ATF and FBI as is the Time documentary on Youtube. Amazing how the media manipulated people at the time to think otherwise
TFW your GF asks “What’s Waco” but she actually means the TV show not the real event.
I watched it this morning and only in the intro where they had the fbi snipe that guy and kill his wife, they were calling them white supremacists or something like that. I don’t know enough about David Koresh to really gauge whether they portrayed him accurately. However, they did accurately portray the FBIs notorious ability to lie and twist the media coverage. Also, I found the correlation of fbi using tear gas and fires disturbing
Yup, this. I was in the 1st or second grade during Waco. I’ve always known of it but never very well. After watching the series though, I am curious about how to unlock that 6th seal!!!
I mean, I've seen the left call Candace Owens a white supremacist with a straight face. I'm not surprised. The Branch Davidians on the show definitely weren't all white.
Lmao yeah same here. My point was I don’t recall the Davidians being referred to as white supremacists but I know the group on ruby hill was
Now do Ruby Ridge.
https://youtu.be/gWAgIVNzHKs
The series actually starts out with the whole Ruby Ridge clusterfuck, but it’s only the first episode and is how they lay the groundwork for the feds getting a hard-on for Waco.
Despite this series being Netflix and going in expecting it to be slanted a certain way, I thought it was pretty well done. And to your point, I’d really like to see a similar series for Ruby Ridge.
Thanks, good to know. I guess I got mixed up on that
They did actually go over that in tbe Waco show. In FACT.....they show the same atf agent who fucked that up, also being the one who fucked up Waco
Wait is that true? I didn't know that was the same guy...
He got so many people killed, I hope he rots.
Yeah I believe the sniper that shot the mother holding her infant shot someone at Waco as well.
In the show it is the same guy....i need to look to confirm
Muh rank and file!!!
Looking at you Hannity.
Tradcons gonna tradcon
PBS did an "American Experience" episode on Ruby Ridge that was actually really well done. It used to be available on either Netflix or Amazon.
It's on Netflix and on Amazon Prime Video (see the links below the trailer vid): https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/ruby-ridge/
Remember watching Waco live on the news. When the news actually reported the news.
Download before youtube deletes.
It's been on YouTube for years, but it's on bitchute as well: https://www.bitchute.com/video/KkVfUZQgpIiS/
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They showed some of the original footage in this series. It was done very well and it actually redpilled my daughter.
The kids were abused therefore the massive fire that killed children was justified kek
Scary how they can slap a false label on anyone to assassinate their character, then send in useful idiots to do it for real.
👆
the news completely mis-reported it back then. They made the FBI out to be heroes
Just like today.
The second protects all the others.
Name checks out.
The deer in congress are especially oppressive
I hate when people say, based on accusations, "Yeah, but Koresh was a child molester." --As if Justice was served by the government killing all the alleged VICTIMS. As long as you kill the child predator, kill as many innocent people as you want. The argument makes ZERO sense.
Rape, pedophilia, molestation are at the top of the chosen accusations to "leak" into the media before the government kills you.
They do character assassination before the real assassination. They can turn nearly anyone into garbage with a label, then people don't care when they're thrown out.
And even if he was, burning all the children alive certInly wasn't the answer, so the argument if fucking stupid regardless.
I didnt even hear about that.
The link text and article seems to contain fake news "fbi-raids-clinic-offers-vitamin-c-shots-fight-coronavirus/." Not accusing you, I just wonder if the fbi/msm falsely accused them of saying it cures cv19 instead of what they actually advertised which could be something like "boost your immune system with vitamin C."
And that man (Biden) and his VP who is the real threat, is going to be placed in the White House with voter fraud, lest we stand up to prevent that.
It was a flesh sacrifice on Patriot's Day.
Every one should see Waco. It was surprisingly very fair to the branch dividians, and very sympathetic towards koresh and followers. They made a point showing how horrible the atf and fbi responded. That last episode was hell to watch tho, i have a 4 year old, i can't imagine the hell of what happened to the poor kids. Gassing them, knowing the gas was considered a war crime, but using it on children because of some stupid loophole. Knowing gasmasks couldn't help children, knowing it was flammable, and knowing the children were gathered in the bottom room and gassing them in and collapsing the compound where they couldn't escape. David thibadox has a great youtube video where he's doing a q and a book tour a few years later, great insite. David wasn't a cult member, he was observing everything, knew David wasn't a profit, but he liked the group of people and their way of life. Such a sad story
But muh rank and file.
4 previous Clinton body guards were killed there
Waco + Ruby Rigde = Oklahoma
"Bad optics"
Imagine the outrage if a raid like this happened at a mosque during the Trump/Barr administration instead of a "white supremacist" (it wasn't) compound.
That show is bullshit propaganda.... cover to try to excuse that the Clintons massacred those people who were doing nothing illegal.
I look at the same way as the Benghazi movie 13 Hours, it focuses on the event, and leaves the higher level politics largely out of the story.
Not saying that is a good thing, but the movies themselves don't try to spin the people involved in the actual event.
Absence of the high level political views is not necessarily propaganda, as propaganda usually shows you something, something that someone wants you to believe. This series just avoided it, but was perfectly clear that it was the government that had bad intentions, it just kept the focus on the ground for the most part.
Think of it this way, if they would have went after Clinton and others, the movie would never have seen the light of day, This way, the way it was done, at least people get a reasonable portrayal of the event, and can begin to think about things and figure it out themselves who was pulling the strings.
It's a step in the right direction for sure.
I was in high school when this happened. I come from a law enforcement family that has a family member killed in the line of duty. At the time, I was seething mad at Koresh for killing the ATF agents. I had no prior knowledge of Ruby Ridge and of course the media didn't tell us the whole story. I don't remember them talking much about the guns that the Davidians had, just about how Koresh was a child molester. I remember watching the compound burn live on tv because I had stayed home from school sick that day. As I got older, I looked more into what happened and it absolutely floored me to find out about the actions of the government, the BATFE, and the FBI. I was brought up thinking that they were the good guys. Hell, I was a criminal justice major in college and one of my professors was a retired BATFE agent (He HATED that acronym. He wanted it to just be called the ATF.). I'm glad that I never applied to the BATFE. My professor was always pushing me to. Hell, I got such a distaste for federal law enforcement that I never pursued that career at all, when at one time I was almost obsessed with becoming a federal agent and fighting bad guys.
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"I come from a law enforcement family that has a family member killed in the line of duty. At the time, I was seething mad at Koresh for killing the ATF agents."
This is how the government generates sympathy. If every family has at least 1 member in the "services" (Fire, LE, Military) they are likely to side with the government.
The Sunday before the raid, there was a huge article in our state paper, in MS on the second page above the fold about Koresh. I remember thinking, “This guy is going to get it”. Days later, the raid happened.
I wish I had kept that paper as evidence of the government set up.
They had ample opportunities to arrest him and didn’t. They wanted a show of force.
All they got was a snafu.
Does it show when the ATF agent grenades and shoots his fellow agents after they go in through the window upstairs?
What's the significance of Order 66?
Star Wars Reference. The emperor had the clone army made but they were loyal to him and not the Republic. When he pit out the call they followed and killed all the Jedi.
At the time the clinton admin was in full-blown propaganda mode against "militias" and similar groups.
When Clinton was campaigning in Seattle, he had to stand behind huge sheets of bullet proof glass. He had an axe to grind agains his perceived enemies.
Yeah fuck the atf
What, is Netflix trying to treat the Waco massacre as a good thing?
It probably came out in 2018 because that marked the 25 year anniversary.
I prefer the version starring Will Ferrell as Janet Reno
Let’s do OKC next
I haven't watched it because I'm MORE than sure that Hollywood and Netflix have spun it as, white man bad, white men have guns bad, white men with guns who want to be left alone - DANGEROUS.
Was I close?
Maybe I'll give it a shot, then.
Thanks!
I dumped 0bamaflix two years ago
I've seen the real WACO documentary. I know the Neflix version will be complete BS.
What do you think about that Pomps?