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MaxineWaters4Prez 20 points ago +21 / -1

Not only those questions, but more importantly: what was the motivation for doing so?

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AngelMark 18 points ago +19 / -1

To kill off as many of us as possible scare the shit out of the rest of us in order to FORCE us all to get vaccinated aka MICROCHIPPED! They are trying to hide DECADES AND DECADES of kiddie fucking, child trafficking and money laundering secrets and the TREASON they committed to try n cover it up!

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pastaroni 10 points ago +11 / -1

Yes, this. I'm sure they would have loved to slowly play out their plan for a little longer, but because of what Trump and his team are doing, they know they need to act now and go full steam.

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AngelMark 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep!

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783hz 6 points ago +6 / -0

To kill small businesses, aka capitalism and freedom, and make more people dependent on government, aka socialism. Bonus, destroy Trump's chances in November.

Less freedom, and more centralized control of our lives. The elites globalist wet dream. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

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BillGateCanSuckIt 11 points ago +11 / -0

https://pjmedia.com/trending/heres-how-much-downstate-new-york-is-skewing-the-united-states-coronavirus-numbers/

Since NewYork numbers don't match the rest of the country what happened there? ANSWER: Incompetence or political maneuvering.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/new-york-lacked-common-sense-in-nursing-homes-coronavirus-approach/

~25% of deaths in NY are because they turned nursing homes into death factories

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Granny 8 points ago +8 / -0

You can't blame people for questioning something that doesn't seem to make much sense. But I think the leaders at first had fear, and it was fear of the unknown. The secret is that they always knew it was a lab created virus, and who knows how deadly dangerous it could be? They still don't fully understand it.

Now we have reason to be skeptical. How can it be a serious emergency, when MSM won't report on it without their agenda? And Dems are using it for a huge money grab and power grab? And officials don't care about having accurate statistics? Stinks.

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sply1 6 points ago +6 / -0

The secret is that they always knew it was a lab created virus

..and they knew we had no PPE because China hoarded it early on.

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cnn_can_dox_my_balls 6 points ago +6 / -0

How many times did they talk to Gates, Tedros, Soros, Clinton, and Pelosi?

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Sum_devil 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hell, some governors even extended this shit int he midst of new revelations this lock-down isn't helping a damn thing. It's only hurting the economy. The job losses are more devastating than covid at this point. And yet they still want to extend it. I fucking HATE democrats and hope all these crooked ass governors go to hell. Sooner rather than later. Fuck them.

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Thingthing22 1 point ago +1 / -0

They have to dig in. Killary is watching.

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invertedspectrum 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah I'm sure we'll get our government to investigate it. Just like every other investigation we wanted. It is certainly not the case that the GOP is full of spineless cucks that let the dems fuck them up the ass all day every day.

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SwampDrainerLocal911 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's simple: They wanted to kill old people because prior to death they vote Republican.

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JetJocky 1 point ago +1 / -0

.....and why. Answer that and we will know what forces came together. We know certain forces would have the same goal and be motivated to work together for different reasons. 'One' reason to consider is that Trump is an obstacle to them achieving more power. China, Soros, establishment Dems/Repubs and globalists all have the same problem. Stranger alliances have happened in history.

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Freeman -1 points ago +5 / -6

As a healthcare worker, the type of irrational and reckless fear mongering in this Twitter post is worse than an overreaction to a virus that no one on earth has immunity to. We have to open the economy and let people work, but let’s do it rationally. You can’t protest away a virus.

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pursuitoftruth1776 [S] 9 points ago +10 / -1

Locking down the world is not an appropriate response to a virus with increasingly more evidence proving it's the same or less deadly than the flu which by locking things down people die from being refused surgeries desperately needed or causing starvation and mass depression and thus suicide. The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself; no one should be refuting that stance...with the data we have now the cure has done far more damage than the virus ever could have done which is why I am urging an investigation into the masterminds behind this reaction who persist despite antibody testing results and more objective proof the most corrupt cities in America are inflating their death count.

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Freeman -5 points ago +3 / -8

Better safe than sorry. You can’t get an accurate mortality rate without letting some people get sick and die while tests are being developed. 50,000 dead in the US is a big number. That’d be a big number for the flu, which we have vaccines for and are pretty well adapted to.

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pursuitoftruth1776 [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

In the meantime while waiting for data collection you have the entire world economy collapsing, people going into depression, already documented suicides with the lockdown being cited as the reason; you have Constitutional Rights being stripped from citizens, you have Jewish being blasted by water hoses for protesting after their religious gathering was disbanded by police; then you have contradictory enforcement of social gatherings...public transportation packed to 100% capacity due to reduced buses and trains so everyone gets on the same ones...

Walmart and other grocery stores are still packed. Some parks are open for exercise but sitting 50 yards away from anyone else will get you arrested unless you go back home. Numerous studies confirming nearly all transmissions of the virus occur in homes, especially apartment complexes, being ignored by telling people to stay home at all times while banning outdoor activity despite studies showing sunlight helps fight the virus and historically shows exposure to sunlight improves ones mental state.

I do not believe the 50,000 number and nobody should. CDC even had to come out and admit how they are counting the deaths after skepticism became too widespread to ignore. A number of doctors have spoken out about the documentation practices being undertaken. + How the hell does NYC have 250x the death count of Tokyo from this virus? Additionally 50,000 dead by the flu is pretty customary even with a vaccine in the 2017-2018 season it killed over 80,000 in the US.

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pastaroni 5 points ago +7 / -2

Do you know what starvation is? Serious fucking question. Do you understand that farmers and ranchers are killing off all of their cattle? Dumping millions of gallons of milk. Plowing entire fields and throwing away the crops. Again, fucking people like you are why are country is being destroying in front of our eyes. The restaurants won't be able to open because there's no food. It will have a chain reaction the permeates every other industry. Our country is being destroyed and people like you are cheering it on. By the time you wake up it will be too late.

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pastaroni 2 points ago +3 / -1

Keep laughing, bud. You won't be laughing long. Shelves are already going bare and it's only going to get worse. Wake up, please. Call your politicians.

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Freeman -3 points ago +2 / -5

I have no power my man. I’m just some guy on the internet that works at a hospital and has seen people who died from COVID-19. Idk why you’re so mad at me. I voted for Trump. I agree with how he’s approaching the issue. I’m just saying the virus is killing people and we can’t just not do anything to mitigate its effect. Hindsight is 2020.

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Sumarongi 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hello fellow caterpillar!

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pastaroni 4 points ago +5 / -1

Because it's you and everyone else that is encouraging the lockdown that is keeping it down. I'm not saying the virus isn't killing people, but it's goign to be a day at the park looking back at an America that has crashed and riots and chaos, suseptible to China's attacks. We're doign everything we can to pressure politicians to open up, but our voice isn't loud enough. We need help before it's too late, and everyone has tunnel vision on trying to save lives now.

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Freeman -2 points ago +1 / -3

No need to riot.

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pastaroni 4 points ago +6 / -2

I'm getting SICK AND TIRED of these "healthcare workers" who want us to stay locked down forever! You have no idea the pain and suffering that's coming.

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pastaroni 4 points ago +6 / -2

You can't lockdown away a virus! It's not going anywhere! The only thing we're doing is destroying America!

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Freeman 0 points ago +3 / -3

I agree you can’t lockdown a virus, but you can slow its spread and buy scientists more time to develop safe treatments and vaccines. Thats the point of a lockdown: to mitigate the spread so the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed and but scientists more time. That has worked very well in most states. It’s worked too well in some places. My hospital had to furlough a bunch of people. But we probably saved lives by doing so. I think it’s time to save businesses now, but we have to do it in a safe way.

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DontApologize 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is NO EVIDENCE the lockdowns slowed the spread. We have compared countries and states with and without lockdowns - and it did not work. Hong Kong without lockdown and tons of density had 4 deaths. NYC with a lockdown had 20k.

if anything the half-assed lockdowns in NYC made the problem worse. Quarantine could in theory work if you could quickly identify sick people and lock them up entirely.

But forcing everyone to go to the grocery store instead of going out to eat - or making people stay indoor instead of killing the virus with UV light did dick to the virus but fucked up our economy.

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pastaroni 1 point ago +3 / -2

The purpose of the lockdown was not to overflow the hospital. Once again I'm going to say you don't understand the hell that is coming from shutting down the economy. You know how a body works, right? Homeostasis. What happens if you shut down one part of the body. Does it affect other parts of the body? Can it kill the body? What do you think we're doing to our economy. The economy is more than green slips of paper and fun tokens. It is everything. It is our medical system. It is our food. It is everything we need to survive. Wake up!

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SimplePede -3 points ago +1 / -4

No more endless investigations. Ok? Unless it's Hillary Clinton or a case where someone clearly broke the law no more endless investigations. The doctors are just doing what best medical ethics dictates.

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Sumarongi 2 points ago +2 / -0

The doctors are just doing what best medical ethics dictates

Are you being sarcastic?

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SimplePede 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. I've got enough nurses in my family to know better.

"Do no harm"

All doctors and medical personnel are ethically mandated to say that to do the least harm, the quarantine must outlast the virus.

Now where that gets complicated us when the economy steps in. Economy can't go that long so the country's going to open up sooner than any doctor would professionally say.

I might not like that a doctor is saying the quarantine should go on, but that's exactly what any doctor would say, I'm not going to demand they be fired and investigated for saying what every other doctor would be professionally required to say

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Sumarongi 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have news for you, not everyone in the medical industry behaves ethically

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SimplePede 1 point ago +1 / -0

...and?

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ailurus 2 points ago +2 / -0

All doctors and medical personnel are ethically mandated to say that to do the least harm

Then what's the metric for opening things up? Because there's a cost-benefit analysis and Fauci, the media and most politicians are flat-out ignoring the other side of it. Sure, you don't want the people with pre-existing respiratory conditions or compromised immune systems exposed to the virus. I get it.

But we've already got increases in suicide rates. We've already got food banks stretched to the limit. We've already got both the supply chain and the food supply taking big hits. Go ask the nurses in your family what prolonged isolation does to people's health and immune systems. Actually, I'll do that last one for you in case they decide to just give a non-answer about "we need to protect people from the virus."

"But 50,000 people have died already" So fing what? I'm serious, so fing what? That's about the number of people who die annually from suicide in the US, and when's the last time we had a national "prevent suicide" shutdown (or, frankly, a national "prevent suicide" anything to help)? You want deaths? Look at the 138,000,000+ people in the US with obesity, or the 110,000,000+ people with hypertension, or the 100,000,000+ who either have or are on the verge of having diabetes. They're not going to the doctor for checkups and treatments much anymore, both because of the mass panic the media is trying to drum up in everyone and the fact many medical personnel are being furloughed. What's going to start happening there? A whole freaking lot more than 50,000 people are going to start having issues real soon, even more so when they're all broke, starving, have weakened immune systems and are suffering growing mental issues.

And on top of that, we're finding out daily that this virus is not nearly as bad as first thought. The numbers we have are orders of magnitude lower than the initial models, which alone should be anyone with any common sense start re-evaluating things. And then we have a 5% death rate from comparing confirmed cases of having the virus with every possible death that may have been tangentially connected to the virus which raises yet more alarm bells. Then throw in the antibody tests and the increasing number of people who are showing up as completely asymptomatic. Then throw in the fact that something like 98% of the deaths came from people with easily observed pre-existing conditions. Then throw in the fact that colossal mismanagement and (frankly) something that was pretty darn close to manslaughter on a massive scale in NYC is skewing the numbers for the country beyond horribly (see this post from further up in this thread ).

So now tell me - which side is the greater harm on?

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SimplePede 0 points ago +1 / -1

I ain't got time to read a book man. Cut it to a few concise lines