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Freeman -1 points ago +5 / -6

As a healthcare worker, the type of irrational and reckless fear mongering in this Twitter post is worse than an overreaction to a virus that no one on earth has immunity to. We have to open the economy and let people work, but let’s do it rationally. You can’t protest away a virus.

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pursuitoftruth1776 [S] 9 points ago +10 / -1

Locking down the world is not an appropriate response to a virus with increasingly more evidence proving it's the same or less deadly than the flu which by locking things down people die from being refused surgeries desperately needed or causing starvation and mass depression and thus suicide. The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself; no one should be refuting that stance...with the data we have now the cure has done far more damage than the virus ever could have done which is why I am urging an investigation into the masterminds behind this reaction who persist despite antibody testing results and more objective proof the most corrupt cities in America are inflating their death count.

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Freeman -5 points ago +3 / -8

Better safe than sorry. You can’t get an accurate mortality rate without letting some people get sick and die while tests are being developed. 50,000 dead in the US is a big number. That’d be a big number for the flu, which we have vaccines for and are pretty well adapted to.

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pursuitoftruth1776 [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

In the meantime while waiting for data collection you have the entire world economy collapsing, people going into depression, already documented suicides with the lockdown being cited as the reason; you have Constitutional Rights being stripped from citizens, you have Jewish being blasted by water hoses for protesting after their religious gathering was disbanded by police; then you have contradictory enforcement of social gatherings...public transportation packed to 100% capacity due to reduced buses and trains so everyone gets on the same ones...

Walmart and other grocery stores are still packed. Some parks are open for exercise but sitting 50 yards away from anyone else will get you arrested unless you go back home. Numerous studies confirming nearly all transmissions of the virus occur in homes, especially apartment complexes, being ignored by telling people to stay home at all times while banning outdoor activity despite studies showing sunlight helps fight the virus and historically shows exposure to sunlight improves ones mental state.

I do not believe the 50,000 number and nobody should. CDC even had to come out and admit how they are counting the deaths after skepticism became too widespread to ignore. A number of doctors have spoken out about the documentation practices being undertaken. + How the hell does NYC have 250x the death count of Tokyo from this virus? Additionally 50,000 dead by the flu is pretty customary even with a vaccine in the 2017-2018 season it killed over 80,000 in the US.

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pastaroni 5 points ago +7 / -2

Do you know what starvation is? Serious fucking question. Do you understand that farmers and ranchers are killing off all of their cattle? Dumping millions of gallons of milk. Plowing entire fields and throwing away the crops. Again, fucking people like you are why are country is being destroying in front of our eyes. The restaurants won't be able to open because there's no food. It will have a chain reaction the permeates every other industry. Our country is being destroyed and people like you are cheering it on. By the time you wake up it will be too late.

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Freeman -3 points ago +2 / -5

I have no power my man. I’m just some guy on the internet that works at a hospital and has seen people who died from COVID-19. Idk why you’re so mad at me. I voted for Trump. I agree with how he’s approaching the issue. I’m just saying the virus is killing people and we can’t just not do anything to mitigate its effect. Hindsight is 2020.

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pastaroni 4 points ago +6 / -2

I'm getting SICK AND TIRED of these "healthcare workers" who want us to stay locked down forever! You have no idea the pain and suffering that's coming.

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pastaroni 4 points ago +6 / -2

You can't lockdown away a virus! It's not going anywhere! The only thing we're doing is destroying America!

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Freeman 0 points ago +3 / -3

I agree you can’t lockdown a virus, but you can slow its spread and buy scientists more time to develop safe treatments and vaccines. Thats the point of a lockdown: to mitigate the spread so the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed and but scientists more time. That has worked very well in most states. It’s worked too well in some places. My hospital had to furlough a bunch of people. But we probably saved lives by doing so. I think it’s time to save businesses now, but we have to do it in a safe way.

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DontApologize 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is NO EVIDENCE the lockdowns slowed the spread. We have compared countries and states with and without lockdowns - and it did not work. Hong Kong without lockdown and tons of density had 4 deaths. NYC with a lockdown had 20k.

if anything the half-assed lockdowns in NYC made the problem worse. Quarantine could in theory work if you could quickly identify sick people and lock them up entirely.

But forcing everyone to go to the grocery store instead of going out to eat - or making people stay indoor instead of killing the virus with UV light did dick to the virus but fucked up our economy.

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pastaroni 1 point ago +3 / -2

The purpose of the lockdown was not to overflow the hospital. Once again I'm going to say you don't understand the hell that is coming from shutting down the economy. You know how a body works, right? Homeostasis. What happens if you shut down one part of the body. Does it affect other parts of the body? Can it kill the body? What do you think we're doing to our economy. The economy is more than green slips of paper and fun tokens. It is everything. It is our medical system. It is our food. It is everything we need to survive. Wake up!