...increased number of people have died from overdose and suicide...
Yup, had a few buddies reach out to me about their mental health. A few of my former soldiers who are now stuck indoors without a civilian job and bills adding up. Also a friends of mine straight up bought a bunch of pills, was popping/snorting them and then told me after the fact when he was detoxing. It's depressing. This dude is straight up a mess right now yet before all of this he was the definition of chipper and intense. Extremely fit and lifting for 2+ hours DAILY. Now he is a depressed and drugged up mess trying to kick a pill addiction.
Yup! ND, SD, MT, UT, KS, AZ, TX, FL. The only State I know you can get Trump pills immediately upon testing positive and you're included in an outpatient study is SD.
It's absolutely criminal that this wasn't done everywhere as soon as we had 9 million pills of HCQ donated to the US.
Does that leave 42 (or more) Governors that are denying sick people medicine?
Utah is under siege from dem mayors and the liberal rag salt lake tribune. Our mayor initially ordered $8m worth of hcq, enough for the whole state. Salt lake tribune couldn’t have that. They started a massive campaign telling people how much money the government was wasting on “dangerous unproven” medicine. A bunch of super-Karens started protesting and the gov cancelled the order. Believe me once the SD study is published I will sue the fuck out of this shit rag.
Don't wait to sue! There is no advantage to waiting. If they can be sued after the study is published, they can be sued before it's published. What information was available at the time will be part of the standard they are judged by. So here it is:
NO need to buy anything. I don't have the date when 9 millions HCQ pills were first donated to the US, but before 3/29/30 another 31 million were donated to US, for a total of 40 million. Even after highly populated States hogged the lion's share there was PLENTY left over for everyone who needed it! Giving a full course of treatment on Monday 3/30 to everyone who had been infected total to date, PLUS those likely infected but didn't know it yet, PLUS everyone they were likely to infect would've required 3 million. No shortage. No cost.
HCQ has been used since 1965. Millions of people have been on it a lot longer than the 5 days we need in this application. We know what it does, no need for "studies." Prior to that chloroquine was used since 1932. In China after the first SARS they discovered chloroquine cures anything like this. That was over 15 years ago. They had already studied over 3,000 people severely infected with this specific virus, and all got good results. This was all before we ever heard anything about it. HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) was only developed because it's safer and more effective.
John Hopkins declared HCQ to be safe for long term use many years ago. 400 mg daily. Full dose with "Trump pills" is 400 mg daily. That safety does not magically change just because we need it and Karens object.
French Dr's study was extraordinarily small, only 36 people. In NYC Dr Zulenko added zinc to the combination for a very simple reason: zinc inside cells interferes with viral replication. It makes sense that it would help us get over this particular infection, so he tried it. He got better results than the French Dr. Zinc by itself has little ability to get in our cells, it needs an "ionophore;" something that helps zinc pass through our cell walls. HCQ was already known to be a zinc ionophore. So it made sense to add it, and there is no downside. 220 mg zinc sulfate which I'm told contains 50 mg elemental zinc. 699 subjects had been studied WEEKS ago: 0 dead, 0 hospitalized, 0 needed a ventilator.
Same study was completed on 1,450 subjects some time ago now. Slightly worse results, with a reduction in amount of HCQ given to some people. In the first 699, the first 2 days of those with the most severe symptoms some received an extra pill or two. (200 mg per pill, max dose 800 mg per day) This second batch nobody got more than 2 pills (400 mg per day) and 2 died. Both over 60. (Exact age and comorbidities weren't disclosed) This is a 97.4% reduction as compared to the US national average death rate. These results have been repeated throughout the entire Nation of Brazil! Dr Z was not involved, they just used his protocol. (95% reduction in death rate, which is how Dr Z reports both. The difference between is not statistically significant) The entire Countries of Israel, Ukraine, and Russia have hired Dr Z to head their response teams. They also heed his recommendations. Other Countries are also reporting positive results. The US is one of the only Countries forbidding it's citizens medicine, in the middle of a pandemic.
So this can't be dismissed as either "it's just one study" OR as "anecdotal."
.In the second batch of 751 out of 1,450, 8 (or less?) were hospitalized, and 3 needed to be put on a ventilator. 2 of those quickly came off it and most hospitalized were quickly released. All were over 60. Again, exact age and other comorbidities undisclosed. Would these individuals have done better with an extra pill or two of HCQ their first day or two? Obviously we'll never know. THE POINT IS THIS WORKS. It's undeniable. All 3 pills given in combination, immediately upon a positive diagnosis.
"But there's side effects." Side effects are well known. HCQ is listed as "well tolerated," and in the list of essential medicines. The most common side effects are rare, and indistinguishable from flu: fever, muscle aches, nausea, diarrhea, and other flu like symptoms. If most people taking this had ALL those symptoms it wouldn't be classified as "well tolerated." It's reasonable to conclude that infected people taking Trump pills would have those symptoms WORSE. Most are miserable for at least a couple days, but all breathing problems are gone in 2 days.
Heart arrhythmia is the only serious side effect, and it has NEVER been observed in this application. Azithromycin also has the same risk, and generally these are only considered a problem for people who are already prone to heart arrhythmias to begin with. So the combination of both is a good idea to avoid for these people. A Dr in LA has gotten great results with using doxycyclene instead of azithromycin. I don't know that he was treating heart patients specifically or what, but it's worth mentioning. Theoretically, you could develop heart arrhythmia and die from either one of these prescriptions. It never stopped it from being prescribed for anything else. Signing a liability waiver when you're first diagnosed should be an option; vaccines have a liability waiver, you can't sue if they poison you with arsenic and you die. Mayors or Governors shouldn't be interfering with this process. Drs and their patients should be free to discuss treatment options and make their own choices. Certainly newspapers shouldn't be part of that process. And if Karens don't want it? Fine, don;t take it.
Cronyism. $1,000 treatment of resvidir (sp?) that isn't tested either, or a vaccine that isn't available yet; these are the only reasons HCQ is banned throughout most of the US. ($20 total cost of all 3 "Trump pills" medicines needed) All the supposed "risks" are known, can be screened out and effect almost no one, and the results are astounding. The most effective vaccine ever is polio, and with 2 vaccines that's only a 90% success rate. When I was a kid we only got 1 polio vaccine, so it was less than 90% effective. Vs 95% effective against CCPvirus, right now. Which is going unused while our fellow Countrymen die and the economic crisis is allowed to destroy most US lives.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS should be filed in every State! I would encourage you that the Mayor is a much better target than a newspaper, especially since you say the Mayor placed an order that was sufficient for the whole State. Criminal charges are in order imho. We need top notch Constitutional lawyers. Civil suits can be filed against Governor's personal wealth, I think that probably applies to Mayors too. They are not part of the cabal that owns big pharma, the Fed, and MSM; newspapers are. I think the defendant needs to be named, and all charges can be in the same lawsuit. Obviously those are details for a lawyer, but the point is we want one action to do all this. It's worth taking the time to do right, and we want everyone in the State chipping in on the cost and reaping the benefits. We lose by big opponents having more money to throw into this Court battle than we do. If it's the whole State full of people we win.
Let's discuss this. The "studies" you've seen lately are bs. Problems:
those given HCQ are sicker to begin with
they're not giving all 3 pills (no zinc, which is a crucial mechanism)
they're waiting too long to start.
ANY inpatient study is designed to do only thing: produce results that we need to hide under the covers until Bill Gates and his almighty vaccine are ready to takeover the world and make us all serfs. Seriously, any disease, ANY treatment, the idea is to start it asap.
Do you have any idea how bad a condition you need to be in before you'll be admitted tot he hospital? Most people are either half dead, or dead already. That's BY DESIGN.
Now, in order to count as "a study" in this Country, you have to have a control group, preferably double blind. That's criminally insane in this situation. It means you're only denying medicine to half the people that need it, instead of denying medicine to everyone who's sick.
Dr Zelenko's results have been repeated throughout the entire Country of Brazil: death rate reduced by 95%. That's just from following the protocol. Dr Zelenko's results in NYC actually come out to be a 97.4% reduction as compared to the US national average. The difference in hospitalizations and how many people need to be put on a ventilator are even bigger. Dr Z has been hired to head the response team of Israel, Ukraine and Russia. Other countries are getting great results. We are being reduced to third world shithole, again according to plan.
Looking for a published study is a mistake; this is war. If you find a fallen comrade in war you don't hesitate to apply a bandage to stop the bleeding because there's no published study. Superglue was invented to patch up skin on the battlefield until they could be transported to medical care. There was no published study on that. HCQ has been used on millions since 1965, we know exactly what this is. There is no need for additional information in order to ACT. Before HCQ, choroquine was used since 1932. This family of drug was first used by Europeans 400 years ago. Before South American natives used it since prehistoric times.
The "published studies" MSM are touting will take as long or longer than a vaccine. We have a cure NOW, and I doubt any vaccine has ever gotten results as good as we already see with a $20 full course of treatment. That's the only sticking point: cronyism.
The MSM shitting on it is all the proof you need. It works--Doctors have been using it all over the world with great results. I did my own study mixing quinine water with vodka and crushed ice and my symptoms went away after a couple of days.
i'm essential in NY, and have been going outside when I can, but the weather has been shit for weeks. So going outside is helpful when it's nice out, not rainy and 45 degrees.
That's what's frustrating is disingenuous liberals and democrats pretend to not be able to separate the two. You can believe the virus is real and also believe it is being used in a massive scale to destroy President Trump and America. I'm so sick of them pretending to not notice facts because it maybe means orange man not so bad after all.
In Minnesota we are spending over five million taxpayer dollars to house them in local hotels for three months. The news briefly reported this, but won't say which hotels. FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. This is money that hard-working families have to give the government so they can give it to someone else.
I am so tired of the government taking money from one family to give to another. Let families keep their own money!
There are doing that here in Cali. But if you are in a hotel for more than 30 days. It’s their home. And then state has to go through election process. Which can take a year plus.
Fort Worth converted the convention center to a homeless shelter. No telling what it looks like inside now but there are still plenty of folks sleeping on the sidewalks.
Idle thought: If UV light shining on blood helps kill viruses, maybe even darker people getting sun exposure are having a mild treatment. And as rhe weather gets hotter and more skin is exposed, virus levels go down and that's also why warmer countries have less flu and colds.
We don't know that sunlight has any impact on the virus in our blood (or in our lungs)
I first proposed studying this nearly a month ago; take people early in the progression like immediately after they're diagnosed positive and have them sunbathe for various durations.
The discussion (and what DJT said) is virus on a surface, exposed to sunlight.
Neither do we know that "virus goes down" with hotter weather if we're talking about a person that's already infected. Again the known advantage is in killing virus that's on a surface.
The human body produces vitamin D when your skin is exposed to UVB. Vitamin D is vital to the immune system and the upper respiratory system. Fair skinned people should get 10-15 minutes of sunlight daily. Darker skinned people need more.
Same phenomenon is most of the 3rd world. I think the weak ones are dead already of other things. Guayaquil is a special case. Viral load seems to be very important and virus is shed through stools so it is likely that in places with very bad sanitation we will see worse outcomes. Most of Mexico has modern sewage systems and is doing fine. Mexico City is a cesspool and not doing as well. In Guayaquil only half the people have toilets going to a septic system and 3/4 have running water. Infrastructure matters.
China is known to have particularly filthy bathrooms.
My company has a good amount of Chinese workers there. There is always one spitting in the sink or water fountains at any given moment. We literally had to put signs up saying that one should NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE spit in the sinks or water fountains.
I swear, we are a major player in the tech industry. These people aren't stupid, many are engineers or scientists with MS/PhD degrees (validity of said degrees on the other hand...) - we shouldn't have to tell them things a kid knows.
We watched a totalitarian government lock down its citizens and said oh shit...this is serious...because of course a totalitarian government would do things to help its citizens, and definitely not doing it because theyre a totalitarian state whose default mode is 100% overreaction so they can dissapear disenters like in HK.
We saw what they did with the mindset of how bad something would have to be to make a free 1st world country lock down entire states, but in REALITY they are a 2nd world shithole totalitarian state whos only reaction is overreaction.
First world is countries allied with USA. Second was countries allied with yhe USSR 3rd world is no formal alliance. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. China is first world since Nixon went over there and help cause the switch to our side. Sadly its not to simple anymore. Outdated terms eh
Apparently homelessness is a great choice and conducive to longevity. Practicing the healthier, homeless, and socially interactive lifestyle is surely the best way to survive the super deadly Covid-19 virus ... We all have to start thinking and living outside of the cardboard box. ..... Hahaha !!
Also, grocery store and medical staff have not had huge outbreaks anywhere that I know of. Most of the population eventually visits the local grocery store or hardware store and nobody is getting sick. Masks are not worn often in my area and yet only 1 person tested as positive in our massive huge local grocery store that is crowded at all times of the day. I have only seen 1 employee wearing a mask.
Smoking makes you 80% LESS likely to contract the shanghai shivers. Many of these people smoke. Maybe that is part of the reason? The nicotine may be the key..
I think more likely the coal tar in tobacco smoke is all over their respiratory system and it dries tissue like crazy, also is poisonous. So still not a good idea to smoke now for COVID and get a bad habit that kills you later.
KFC actually. There were about 25 cig butts in our mailroom, liquor bottles and a nice big shit in the yard. Blue LA for ya. I'm a lone pede out here in the jungle
Ever in WeHo? I'm by SM and Fairfax. There's pedes around for sure. Someone put stencils of Trump's face on our sidewalks, a Q poster numerous times outside Ed Buck's place and today I saw a FUCK BILL GATES sign goin south on Fairfax right after Melrose. Even on the citizen app and nextdoor I can there's patriots peppered in
I'm on the east side/SGV, but I head over your ways for industry stuff. Haven't been there for weeks since the shutdown though.
That's amazing there are pedes out there...and vocal too. Was talking just yesterday how I don't know any pedes in real life. Where I'm at, it's mostly 1st-2nd gen immigrants, and unsurprisingly they all keep their heads down and do as they're told.
I said way back, that the homeless would be the canary in the coal mine for this. If large swaths of the homeless weren't dying, we were going to be fine.
I haven't seen one thing about the homeless since this "pandemic" started. Nothing. You'd think those homeless camps would be hotbeds of disease (of all kinds) and the cities would be desperate to get rid of them. Nope. Not a word.
The real reason the homeless remain undisturbed? Because Dem volunteers go in there, register the individuals to vote, and then "help them" fill out their ballots which the nice volunteer then takes to the polls.
Yeah, the Dems demand that the rest of us call 1-800-GESTAPO if our neighbors sit outside without a mask, but we don't vote Democrat. The homeless do. Just like the dead.
Covid-19 is a senior citizen problem. People under age 65 are more likely to die from suicide than COVID-19, and people under age 25 are more likely to be struck by lightning.
They probably have, they end up in hospitals and aren't marked "Homeless" when they get choked out by a ventilator. I am sure when this is over we will find out it was mostly homeless, poor people and elderly, That got whacked by ventilators while everyone else got HQ treatment.
I asked this question to someone I work with as a roundabout way to get her to think and ease her fear. She told me it's just because none of the people have got the Corona virus yet.
Me: Portland, Seattle, San Fransisco, LA. Nobody in those homeless communities has caught this yet?
Her: No.
God help me I can't completely stop trying to reach out to lost causes.
so . . . the rest of us are going to die, or we're going to kill everyone else, if we don't self-quarantine and wear masks and disinfect everything and maintain proper social(ist) distancing.
But the homeless junkies living in crowded squalid camps, and doing absolutely none of the above, don't have a single case of the Rona.
that's true - yet even "loner" types don't do any "social distancing," or wear masks or gloves, or practice regular handwashing . . . you know, the stuff that's going to kill us all if we don't do it . . . .
Two things, Courtney is 100% correct, one would assume the homeless camps would be over trenched with wide spread virus, and two, wow is Courtney hot. And for the record,,,,,It was a PERFECT phone call.
Probably because even the most jaded doctor is unwilling to write 'COVID-19' as the cause of death for someone who has infected track marks up and down their arms.
I was told by a leftist on crackbook, that it's because only privileged people get the virus, and that's because it came from people travelling, and only people that travel, are privileged.
I love debating them though. It's so easy to pick apart emotional arguments; they lack logic
Same fella said the reason the rumour to fire fauci came up, is because the Trump admin is anti-gay, and fauci is a big supporter of that community for his work with AIDS. It really is amazing.
Great story. I’ve read before too that giving aspirin killed more sick to. Due to the fact that the aspirin artificially lowers the fever temperature. Need a high fever to kill the flu virus.
Pine Street Inn is a homeless shelter in South Boston. They had someone showing symptoms, and tested everyone. The results? "397 tested, 146- or 36% came up positive" and were totally asymptomatic!!!!!
Guaranteed! I couldnt believe it, seeing I am about 45 mins south of Boston, and still have many family members in the Greater Boston area. I agree, a lot more have this, we just haven't been tested for the antibodies.
They might not be wearing masks or washing their hands, but they are absolutely social distancing. Nobody wants to be near a homeless person. Not even another homeless person.
I wonder if their immunity is higher by being outside?
That’s the theory.
Me too. And yes.
Stop saying SARS and call it by it’s real name. Chinky pox
"Ching Chong Chicken Soup Flu".
And by "Chicken" I mean diseased bat.
Shanghai shivers
I'm sure it tastes like chicken.
I like the regional specificity of the term WuFlu.
REEEEEEEEEE ARE YOU ADVOCATING FOR THE MILLIONS OF DEAD ASIANS HOW DARE YOU BLOOOOOMF WORSHIPERS IM SO MAD IM GOOOONNNA COOOOOOOOOOM!
Yup, had a few buddies reach out to me about their mental health. A few of my former soldiers who are now stuck indoors without a civilian job and bills adding up. Also a friends of mine straight up bought a bunch of pills, was popping/snorting them and then told me after the fact when he was detoxing. It's depressing. This dude is straight up a mess right now yet before all of this he was the definition of chipper and intense. Extremely fit and lifting for 2+ hours DAILY. Now he is a depressed and drugged up mess trying to kick a pill addiction.
Yes. I believe that too. We need to open America or we will haBe a depression
Look at this about Fauci. How he is even in that office is beyond me. https://youtu.be/NOuoJR9RGZQ
It's more than 18. It's more than just Ds, too.
Can we find even 10 that aren't guilty of mass murder?
Yup! ND, SD, MT, UT, KS, AZ, TX, FL. The only State I know you can get Trump pills immediately upon testing positive and you're included in an outpatient study is SD.
It's absolutely criminal that this wasn't done everywhere as soon as we had 9 million pills of HCQ donated to the US.
Does that leave 42 (or more) Governors that are denying sick people medicine?
Utah is under siege from dem mayors and the liberal rag salt lake tribune. Our mayor initially ordered $8m worth of hcq, enough for the whole state. Salt lake tribune couldn’t have that. They started a massive campaign telling people how much money the government was wasting on “dangerous unproven” medicine. A bunch of super-Karens started protesting and the gov cancelled the order. Believe me once the SD study is published I will sue the fuck out of this shit rag.
Don't wait to sue! There is no advantage to waiting. If they can be sued after the study is published, they can be sued before it's published. What information was available at the time will be part of the standard they are judged by. So here it is:
NO need to buy anything. I don't have the date when 9 millions HCQ pills were first donated to the US, but before 3/29/30 another 31 million were donated to US, for a total of 40 million. Even after highly populated States hogged the lion's share there was PLENTY left over for everyone who needed it! Giving a full course of treatment on Monday 3/30 to everyone who had been infected total to date, PLUS those likely infected but didn't know it yet, PLUS everyone they were likely to infect would've required 3 million. No shortage. No cost.
HCQ has been used since 1965. Millions of people have been on it a lot longer than the 5 days we need in this application. We know what it does, no need for "studies." Prior to that chloroquine was used since 1932. In China after the first SARS they discovered chloroquine cures anything like this. That was over 15 years ago. They had already studied over 3,000 people severely infected with this specific virus, and all got good results. This was all before we ever heard anything about it. HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) was only developed because it's safer and more effective.
John Hopkins declared HCQ to be safe for long term use many years ago. 400 mg daily. Full dose with "Trump pills" is 400 mg daily. That safety does not magically change just because we need it and Karens object.
French Dr's study was extraordinarily small, only 36 people. In NYC Dr Zulenko added zinc to the combination for a very simple reason: zinc inside cells interferes with viral replication. It makes sense that it would help us get over this particular infection, so he tried it. He got better results than the French Dr. Zinc by itself has little ability to get in our cells, it needs an "ionophore;" something that helps zinc pass through our cell walls. HCQ was already known to be a zinc ionophore. So it made sense to add it, and there is no downside. 220 mg zinc sulfate which I'm told contains 50 mg elemental zinc. 699 subjects had been studied WEEKS ago: 0 dead, 0 hospitalized, 0 needed a ventilator.
Same study was completed on 1,450 subjects some time ago now. Slightly worse results, with a reduction in amount of HCQ given to some people. In the first 699, the first 2 days of those with the most severe symptoms some received an extra pill or two. (200 mg per pill, max dose 800 mg per day) This second batch nobody got more than 2 pills (400 mg per day) and 2 died. Both over 60. (Exact age and comorbidities weren't disclosed) This is a 97.4% reduction as compared to the US national average death rate. These results have been repeated throughout the entire Nation of Brazil! Dr Z was not involved, they just used his protocol. (95% reduction in death rate, which is how Dr Z reports both. The difference between is not statistically significant) The entire Countries of Israel, Ukraine, and Russia have hired Dr Z to head their response teams. They also heed his recommendations. Other Countries are also reporting positive results. The US is one of the only Countries forbidding it's citizens medicine, in the middle of a pandemic.
So this can't be dismissed as either "it's just one study" OR as "anecdotal."
.In the second batch of 751 out of 1,450, 8 (or less?) were hospitalized, and 3 needed to be put on a ventilator. 2 of those quickly came off it and most hospitalized were quickly released. All were over 60. Again, exact age and other comorbidities undisclosed. Would these individuals have done better with an extra pill or two of HCQ their first day or two? Obviously we'll never know. THE POINT IS THIS WORKS. It's undeniable. All 3 pills given in combination, immediately upon a positive diagnosis.
Heart arrhythmia is the only serious side effect, and it has NEVER been observed in this application. Azithromycin also has the same risk, and generally these are only considered a problem for people who are already prone to heart arrhythmias to begin with. So the combination of both is a good idea to avoid for these people. A Dr in LA has gotten great results with using doxycyclene instead of azithromycin. I don't know that he was treating heart patients specifically or what, but it's worth mentioning. Theoretically, you could develop heart arrhythmia and die from either one of these prescriptions. It never stopped it from being prescribed for anything else. Signing a liability waiver when you're first diagnosed should be an option; vaccines have a liability waiver, you can't sue if they poison you with arsenic and you die. Mayors or Governors shouldn't be interfering with this process. Drs and their patients should be free to discuss treatment options and make their own choices. Certainly newspapers shouldn't be part of that process. And if Karens don't want it? Fine, don;t take it.
Cronyism. $1,000 treatment of resvidir (sp?) that isn't tested either, or a vaccine that isn't available yet; these are the only reasons HCQ is banned throughout most of the US. ($20 total cost of all 3 "Trump pills" medicines needed) All the supposed "risks" are known, can be screened out and effect almost no one, and the results are astounding. The most effective vaccine ever is polio, and with 2 vaccines that's only a 90% success rate. When I was a kid we only got 1 polio vaccine, so it was less than 90% effective. Vs 95% effective against CCPvirus, right now. Which is going unused while our fellow Countrymen die and the economic crisis is allowed to destroy most US lives.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS should be filed in every State! I would encourage you that the Mayor is a much better target than a newspaper, especially since you say the Mayor placed an order that was sufficient for the whole State. Criminal charges are in order imho. We need top notch Constitutional lawyers. Civil suits can be filed against Governor's personal wealth, I think that probably applies to Mayors too. They are not part of the cabal that owns big pharma, the Fed, and MSM; newspapers are. I think the defendant needs to be named, and all charges can be in the same lawsuit. Obviously those are details for a lawyer, but the point is we want one action to do all this. It's worth taking the time to do right, and we want everyone in the State chipping in on the cost and reaping the benefits. We lose by big opponents having more money to throw into this Court battle than we do. If it's the whole State full of people we win.
Does hydrochloroquinine work? MSM is shitting on it. Even Fox. are there any published studies?
Doing a study in this environment would be unethical. All that exists are reports from actual usage and those reports all show positive results.
Let's discuss this. The "studies" you've seen lately are bs. Problems:
those given HCQ are sicker to begin with
they're not giving all 3 pills (no zinc, which is a crucial mechanism)
they're waiting too long to start.
ANY inpatient study is designed to do only thing: produce results that we need to hide under the covers until Bill Gates and his almighty vaccine are ready to takeover the world and make us all serfs. Seriously, any disease, ANY treatment, the idea is to start it asap.
Do you have any idea how bad a condition you need to be in before you'll be admitted tot he hospital? Most people are either half dead, or dead already. That's BY DESIGN.
Now, in order to count as "a study" in this Country, you have to have a control group, preferably double blind. That's criminally insane in this situation. It means you're only denying medicine to half the people that need it, instead of denying medicine to everyone who's sick.
Dr Zelenko's results have been repeated throughout the entire Country of Brazil: death rate reduced by 95%. That's just from following the protocol. Dr Zelenko's results in NYC actually come out to be a 97.4% reduction as compared to the US national average. The difference in hospitalizations and how many people need to be put on a ventilator are even bigger. Dr Z has been hired to head the response team of Israel, Ukraine and Russia. Other countries are getting great results. We are being reduced to third world shithole, again according to plan.
Looking for a published study is a mistake; this is war. If you find a fallen comrade in war you don't hesitate to apply a bandage to stop the bleeding because there's no published study. Superglue was invented to patch up skin on the battlefield until they could be transported to medical care. There was no published study on that. HCQ has been used on millions since 1965, we know exactly what this is. There is no need for additional information in order to ACT. Before HCQ, choroquine was used since 1932. This family of drug was first used by Europeans 400 years ago. Before South American natives used it since prehistoric times.
The "published studies" MSM are touting will take as long or longer than a vaccine. We have a cure NOW, and I doubt any vaccine has ever gotten results as good as we already see with a $20 full course of treatment. That's the only sticking point: cronyism.
The MSM shitting on it is all the proof you need. It works--Doctors have been using it all over the world with great results. I did my own study mixing quinine water with vodka and crushed ice and my symptoms went away after a couple of days.
i'm essential in NY, and have been going outside when I can, but the weather has been shit for weeks. So going outside is helpful when it's nice out, not rainy and 45 degrees.
oof that user name. At least it wasn't a harsh winter, but I am totally ready for 90 degree days daily.
Every. Fucking. Day. Except today.
Saturday is supposed to be nice, but the next few days it's rain again
Yep .... watch the video of the two doctors from Bakersfield, CA.
Now, the cowards are YouTube have tried to ban the video. .... slime at Youtube.
Or, and I know this is really a stretch, the whole thing could just be bullshit.
I believe the virus is real and the over reaction is a Plandemic to Destroy Trump and America.
That's what's frustrating is disingenuous liberals and democrats pretend to not be able to separate the two. You can believe the virus is real and also believe it is being used in a massive scale to destroy President Trump and America. I'm so sick of them pretending to not notice facts because it maybe means orange man not so bad after all.
Yep
I didn't mean to say the virus doesn't exist. I was referring to the reaction.
I believe we on same page here…… I believe the virus is real … I also believe the Plandemic reaction is designed to destroy Trump and America.
there's no way their immune system is better as most of them are poorly nourished and users of various addicting substances
Cuz the death rTe was way over blown from get go.
In Minnesota we are spending over five million taxpayer dollars to house them in local hotels for three months. The news briefly reported this, but won't say which hotels. FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. This is money that hard-working families have to give the government so they can give it to someone else.
I am so tired of the government taking money from one family to give to another. Let families keep their own money!
There are doing that here in Cali. But if you are in a hotel for more than 30 days. It’s their home. And then state has to go through election process. Which can take a year plus.
I get the impression some ballots 'bout to be harvested from this.
Yep. Love California one party state.
Fort Worth converted the convention center to a homeless shelter. No telling what it looks like inside now but there are still plenty of folks sleeping on the sidewalks.
Idle thought: If UV light shining on blood helps kill viruses, maybe even darker people getting sun exposure are having a mild treatment. And as rhe weather gets hotter and more skin is exposed, virus levels go down and that's also why warmer countries have less flu and colds.
Tanning with gin & tonic (with quinine), and a lime twist for vitamine C
We don't know that sunlight has any impact on the virus in our blood (or in our lungs)
I first proposed studying this nearly a month ago; take people early in the progression like immediately after they're diagnosed positive and have them sunbathe for various durations.
The discussion (and what DJT said) is virus on a surface, exposed to sunlight.
Neither do we know that "virus goes down" with hotter weather if we're talking about a person that's already infected. Again the known advantage is in killing virus that's on a surface.
The human body produces vitamin D when your skin is exposed to UVB. Vitamin D is vital to the immune system and the upper respiratory system. Fair skinned people should get 10-15 minutes of sunlight daily. Darker skinned people need more.
So you're saying even sunlight is racist? Reeeeeeee!
It did sound like he said “white people are more efficient and healthier”.
Surely they waited for "published studies" before putting anyone outside?!?
The sheer lunacy of waiting rather than giving sick people medicine (including fresh air and sunshine) is criminally insane. Mass murder.
So government types have precedent for thinking this is somehow acceptable. Oof.
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In case you have not read this yet, these doctors do a really good job of explaining how all this works:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/2-whisteblowing-cali-er-doctors-urge-open-society-now-because-lockdowns-are-weakening-our
Of course, it's zerohedge, so open the comments at your own risk.
Zerohedge comments are where you go to see new forms of racism being created.
KEK!
The best thing about ZH is the comments, really.
Scamdemic
Same phenomenon is most of the 3rd world. I think the weak ones are dead already of other things. Guayaquil is a special case. Viral load seems to be very important and virus is shed through stools so it is likely that in places with very bad sanitation we will see worse outcomes. Most of Mexico has modern sewage systems and is doing fine. Mexico City is a cesspool and not doing as well. In Guayaquil only half the people have toilets going to a septic system and 3/4 have running water. Infrastructure matters.
China is known to have particularly filthy bathrooms.
China is known to have particularly filthy bathrooms.
and people spit in the streets like the Colorado river runs out of the mountains. Gross as fuck.
My company has a good amount of Chinese workers there. There is always one spitting in the sink or water fountains at any given moment. We literally had to put signs up saying that one should NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE spit in the sinks or water fountains.
I swear, we are a major player in the tech industry. These people aren't stupid, many are engineers or scientists with MS/PhD degrees (validity of said degrees on the other hand...) - we shouldn't have to tell them things a kid knows.
Are they spitting so much due to smoking so much?
Kind of like the French Quarter of NOLA, then?
I've seen some horrifying asian bathrooms where people basically squat over a hole in the floor.
Yep
Or China killed them with nerve gas etc.
I’ll go got that. And one big psyc war
We watched a totalitarian government lock down its citizens and said oh shit...this is serious...because of course a totalitarian government would do things to help its citizens, and definitely not doing it because theyre a totalitarian state whose default mode is 100% overreaction so they can dissapear disenters like in HK.
We saw what they did with the mindset of how bad something would have to be to make a free 1st world country lock down entire states, but in REALITY they are a 2nd world shithole totalitarian state whos only reaction is overreaction.
That’s what commies do
First world is countries allied with USA. Second was countries allied with yhe USSR 3rd world is no formal alliance. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. China is first world since Nixon went over there and help cause the switch to our side. Sadly its not to simple anymore. Outdated terms eh
Like the one with the old man falling flat on his face, and there just so happened to be a camera pointed directly at him to catch it all?
The dead bodies on street. Looks like it
Fake and out of context.
Lies to destroy economy and Trump.
Apparently homelessness is a great choice and conducive to longevity. Practicing the healthier, homeless, and socially interactive lifestyle is surely the best way to survive the super deadly Covid-19 virus ... We all have to start thinking and living outside of the cardboard box. ..... Hahaha !!
Your funny. You almost had me. !!! TRUMP2020
Also, grocery store and medical staff have not had huge outbreaks anywhere that I know of. Most of the population eventually visits the local grocery store or hardware store and nobody is getting sick. Masks are not worn often in my area and yet only 1 person tested as positive in our massive huge local grocery store that is crowded at all times of the day. I have only seen 1 employee wearing a mask.
The Walmart’s I go too. Most workers don’t wear masks.
Smoking makes you 80% LESS likely to contract the shanghai shivers. Many of these people smoke. Maybe that is part of the reason? The nicotine may be the key..
I think more likely the coal tar in tobacco smoke is all over their respiratory system and it dries tissue like crazy, also is poisonous. So still not a good idea to smoke now for COVID and get a bad habit that kills you later.
Tar would also be a physical barrier.
Cigs have anywhere from 100 to 1,000 poisons, so who knows which one may work. Nicotine lozenges or pure nicotine vape could be tested.
Maybe
I live in LA and a guy shit in my courtyard yesterday
Sorry to here that. Did he wash his hands ??? But for real that’s messed up.
What did he have to eat the day before?
KFC actually. There were about 25 cig butts in our mailroom, liquor bottles and a nice big shit in the yard. Blue LA for ya. I'm a lone pede out here in the jungle
Well, there's two of us out here at least.
a fellow LA patriot??
You bet. I'm the one in the digital camo American flag cap. Haven't seen anyone else with the same hat, so maybe I'll see you around. ;)
Ever in WeHo? I'm by SM and Fairfax. There's pedes around for sure. Someone put stencils of Trump's face on our sidewalks, a Q poster numerous times outside Ed Buck's place and today I saw a FUCK BILL GATES sign goin south on Fairfax right after Melrose. Even on the citizen app and nextdoor I can there's patriots peppered in
I'm on the east side/SGV, but I head over your ways for industry stuff. Haven't been there for weeks since the shutdown though.
That's amazing there are pedes out there...and vocal too. Was talking just yesterday how I don't know any pedes in real life. Where I'm at, it's mostly 1st-2nd gen immigrants, and unsurprisingly they all keep their heads down and do as they're told.
Hmmmmm....what about millions of the unvaccinated illegals in our country for decades? Yet we can't go outside because of a weak flu like virus?
God point
Cuz. If they did die by thousands. It would be Trumps fault. N blasted on fake news. 24/7
Or maybe New York is killing their homeless population and being reimbursed $50,000 for every victim "Covid-19" claims.
There's a tin foil hat theory that has some teeth.
I believe you.
I said way back, that the homeless would be the canary in the coal mine for this. If large swaths of the homeless weren't dying, we were going to be fine.
Yep
I haven't seen one thing about the homeless since this "pandemic" started. Nothing. You'd think those homeless camps would be hotbeds of disease (of all kinds) and the cities would be desperate to get rid of them. Nope. Not a word.
The real reason the homeless remain undisturbed? Because Dem volunteers go in there, register the individuals to vote, and then "help them" fill out their ballots which the nice volunteer then takes to the polls.
Yeah, the Dems demand that the rest of us call 1-800-GESTAPO if our neighbors sit outside without a mask, but we don't vote Democrat. The homeless do. Just like the dead.
Yep
Your immune system would also be incredible if you ate out of the trash and never washed your hands.
Yuch
or essential workers dropping like flies. weird, huh?
Yes.
Covid-19 is a senior citizen problem. People under age 65 are more likely to die from suicide than COVID-19, and people under age 25 are more likely to be struck by lightning.
Yes. And most homeless arnt over 65 or obese
They probably have, they end up in hospitals and aren't marked "Homeless" when they get choked out by a ventilator. I am sure when this is over we will find out it was mostly homeless, poor people and elderly, That got whacked by ventilators while everyone else got HQ treatment.
Yeo
I asked this question to someone I work with as a roundabout way to get her to think and ease her fear. She told me it's just because none of the people have got the Corona virus yet.
Me: Portland, Seattle, San Fransisco, LA. Nobody in those homeless communities has caught this yet?
Her: No.
God help me I can't completely stop trying to reach out to lost causes.
It’s a waste of time.
I know that's true but I have some sort of weakness/character flaw that won't allow me to stop.
so . . . the rest of us are going to die, or we're going to kill everyone else, if we don't self-quarantine and wear masks and disinfect everything and maintain proper social(ist) distancing.
But the homeless junkies living in crowded squalid camps, and doing absolutely none of the above, don't have a single case of the Rona.
They would be exposed to viruses on a daily basis. Not saying they have an immune system of a tank. But still.
that's true - yet even "loner" types don't do any "social distancing," or wear masks or gloves, or practice regular handwashing . . . you know, the stuff that's going to kill us all if we don't do it . . . .
That
2 weeks ago Boston tested 397 homeless people and 146 of them "tested positive for the coronavirus without showing any symptoms".
http://archive.is/LP0fJ
Wow. So we aren't all going to die.
Two things, Courtney is 100% correct, one would assume the homeless camps would be over trenched with wide spread virus, and two, wow is Courtney hot. And for the record,,,,,It was a PERFECT phone call.
Yes
Not really. All of the ppl that died from this scam are definitely voting for Joe Biden 2020.
Yep
You would think
Lol
Probably because even the most jaded doctor is unwilling to write 'COVID-19' as the cause of death for someone who has infected track marks up and down their arms.
Lol
I’m done wondering. This whole thing is a fraud meant to undermine capitalism
Winner winner chicken dinner!
Yep. Destroy Trum n America
I was told by a leftist on crackbook, that it's because only privileged people get the virus, and that's because it came from people travelling, and only people that travel, are privileged.
Amazin'
They are a dumbass
I love debating them though. It's so easy to pick apart emotional arguments; they lack logic
Same fella said the reason the rumour to fire fauci came up, is because the Trump admin is anti-gay, and fauci is a big supporter of that community for his work with AIDS. It really is amazing.
That’s crazy. I’ve come to realize they just hate us and want us compliant with their nonsense or dead. 🐸🇺🇸🐸
Read yer history books Pedes... https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065
Great story. I’ve read before too that giving aspirin killed more sick to. Due to the fact that the aspirin artificially lowers the fever temperature. Need a high fever to kill the flu virus.
Tru dat. .
It would be interesting to see how many people who got it, get vaccinated.
I’m not get a vacinne and no one I know is getting one
Metoo!! Fuck gates' vaccine.
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Matter of fact, now that the "normal" people are all gone from downtown foot traffic, the only ones left are the transients, junkies and panhandlers.
They don't all seem to have the Coof, hmm.
Yep
They've been given Bill Gates chinese vaccine. Who else can they easily inject anytime?
Lol
Probably because cities don’t give a shit and just assume they OD’ed
Lol
Pine Street Inn is a homeless shelter in South Boston. They had someone showing symptoms, and tested everyone. The results? "397 tested, 146- or 36% came up positive" and were totally asymptomatic!!!!!
https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/15/boston-homeless-population-coronavirus-asymptomatic-universal-testing
ThTs crazy. I’m sure it would mirror America.
Guaranteed! I couldnt believe it, seeing I am about 45 mins south of Boston, and still have many family members in the Greater Boston area. I agree, a lot more have this, we just haven't been tested for the antibodies.
That’s what I thought, too! Maybe they’re all immune.
A small oversight. Don’t worry, version 2 by China or Gates will include this.
Goid
Homeless people can’t afford ventilators
Lol.
They might not be wearing masks or washing their hands, but they are absolutely social distancing. Nobody wants to be near a homeless person. Not even another homeless person.
My theory on smoking as well
Maybe nobody notices when they die? Society ignores them during the good times...
Good put them all on an empty container ship back to China
Their herd is immune.
They have all the viruses
Or India slums
ive been asking this since day 1
Me too. Lots homeless around here
Wait...so meth prevents the WuFlu?
Smoking ice kills everything
They don't get vaccinated either......hmmm
Because their bloodstream is like 8% alcohol.
N 2% crack
I won’t miss them.
Almost makes one think this whole fLaTten cURve thing is made up bullshit.
I’ll go with that
Dude. If anything the homeless in Oregon are out in greater force lol
The Chinese Virus is real, but it’s level of danger is total bullshit, exploited by demonrats.
Yes yes n yes
Most are asymptomatic Never get sick.
Sounds like a good movie