Yea, that is something that really pisses me off about all this. They are claiming it is so horrible, and "millions will die" and all that, and even their FAKE numbers aren't looking as bad as they keep screaming about. Even when they add up basically any other deaths they can get away with to the virus death count, it STILL doesn't add up to anything serious enough to cause all this mass hysteria with the lockdowns and shit.
And when you learn they are basically adding everything they possibly can to pad the numbers, and still not getting the fatality % they want, you realize the ACTUAL numbers are probably less than 0.5% deaths and they just want to trample on people's rights and gain that little bit more control.
It always amazes me that people STILL don't understand once you give up rights, even under the guise of it being "temporary", you will NEVER get those rights back. They just keep chipping away little by little, and people always think "well that doesn't seem so bad, and it is only temporary" until it is too late to turn back. You give up your right to do X thing "temporarily" and instead of getting it back later, another "temporary" thing comes up.
I keep hearing about the "total # of cases". I actually had to tell someone that countries with much higher populations will have a much higher number of cases.
Peak Clown World, folks. And if I were Bill Gates or George Soros or a Rothschild or whatever boogie man you want, I'd be loving what I'm seeing from the American population.
The only silver lining is that we don't have Hillery right now. Can you imagine? But Trump is temporary.
We know numbers of deaths are fake. People keep saying "NY" does this; we've seen Drs all over the Country tell us they've seen pressure to falsify death certificates. I've been watching number of people recovered in the US closely, and those are over reported by an even wider margin, at least on worldometers.info. That number is directly refuted by their own data per US State.
So 2 out of 3 key metrics are deliberately wrong, and we're going to believe them on the third? Number of total cases is probably also pure bs.
They're not lying to us because they have our best interests at heart.
Yep. There is no reason we aren't completely open right now. The ramifications of this shutdown are so detrimental. They are far worse than most Americans realize. The unintended consequences are HUGE.
This was supposed to be about "flattening the curve" not staying home indefinitely. Students need to be back on campus now. All students K-12 need to be back at class. This BS won't end until they start laying off teachers and school staff. Government workers, too.
Why is it when government shuts down for two weeks it is devastating? News story after news story about families needing to get back to work. But now the private sector can be closed indefinitely for months? I notice in MN they aren't opening clothing stores (no sales tax on clothing) but they can open tons of other stores. Why can I go in a liquor store and buy a bottle of wine, but I can't go in a hockey store and buy some pucks? Now, I know, I know...alcohol is an issue and if we close liquor stores people have withdrawel. I get it. That's not my point. I think all stores should be open. Not just the highly taxed liquor stores. Where would I be more likely to get Covid? A Walmart with tons of people or Total Hockey with 2 employees and 3 customers? Hmmm...these arbitrary restrictions are absolutely wrong and people need to start filing lawsuits.
Pretty close to the number I came up with if you're looking at total dead vs total population, but that's a largely irrelevant metric. Two different directions give you something more meaningful:
total US deaths in a similar time period, but years apart. Last I knew our total deaths were down by more than total deaths due to CCPvirus. So we should use the left's talking point that "all deaths are Trump's fault," and then accurately state that (by that logic) he's creating more than 20,000 new lives.
This is a sketchy metric right now for a couple reasons: nobody's doing anything and lots more will die, at least from health issues that are NOT CCPvirus because they've been turned away or are deliberately not getting medical care out of fear of catching de plague. We're also going to see a second wave no mattter what we do, and Trump pills would prevent that from turning into a lot more dead. Or hospitalized. Or needing a ventilator.
So all the numbers we have would be not very indicative of what's really going on, even if we were being told the truth. But we know we're being lied to.
Another metric that's more meaningful than dead vs total population is dead vs how many have been exposed to CCPvirus. We don't have that info. We don't have any idea how many caught it. In some small regions you've seen antibody testing show there are somewhere between 30 and 80 x more infected people than previously thought. From MN west to the east side of the coastal mountains on the left coast those numbers probably have no bearing. (And this is probably also true of at least the rural half of WI and IL that still has 10 or fewer cases per County)
All we have is total "confirmed cases," and comparing that to total dead. This is our most meaningful metric. We know this virus is highly contagious, so being able to estimate how many will die per how many catch it is significant. That number (IFR) was 6% for the US last night, using the numbers provided by worldometers.info. SD has .5%. You'd think Governors would be looking at that stark difference and wanting to duplicate whatever SD is doing differently.
Deaths per 1M Pop (from worldometer site)
USA: 179
Spain: 519
Italy: 453
France: 362
UK: 319
Germany: 75
Belgium: 647
Netherlands: 275
Sweeden: 244
And this includes all of the fake deaths being reported in places like New York.
Yea, that is something that really pisses me off about all this. They are claiming it is so horrible, and "millions will die" and all that, and even their FAKE numbers aren't looking as bad as they keep screaming about. Even when they add up basically any other deaths they can get away with to the virus death count, it STILL doesn't add up to anything serious enough to cause all this mass hysteria with the lockdowns and shit.
And when you learn they are basically adding everything they possibly can to pad the numbers, and still not getting the fatality % they want, you realize the ACTUAL numbers are probably less than 0.5% deaths and they just want to trample on people's rights and gain that little bit more control.
It always amazes me that people STILL don't understand once you give up rights, even under the guise of it being "temporary", you will NEVER get those rights back. They just keep chipping away little by little, and people always think "well that doesn't seem so bad, and it is only temporary" until it is too late to turn back. You give up your right to do X thing "temporarily" and instead of getting it back later, another "temporary" thing comes up.
I keep hearing about the "total # of cases". I actually had to tell someone that countries with much higher populations will have a much higher number of cases.
Peak Clown World, folks. And if I were Bill Gates or George Soros or a Rothschild or whatever boogie man you want, I'd be loving what I'm seeing from the American population.
The only silver lining is that we don't have Hillery right now. Can you imagine? But Trump is temporary.
I don't understand why some people don't understand that. Actually I do, leftism, and in turn, TDS, is very harmful to a persons intelligence.
We know numbers of deaths are fake. People keep saying "NY" does this; we've seen Drs all over the Country tell us they've seen pressure to falsify death certificates. I've been watching number of people recovered in the US closely, and those are over reported by an even wider margin, at least on worldometers.info. That number is directly refuted by their own data per US State.
So 2 out of 3 key metrics are deliberately wrong, and we're going to believe them on the third? Number of total cases is probably also pure bs.
They're not lying to us because they have our best interests at heart.
I’m no math person, so someone help me out, but what is that? 0.017 percent?
We shutdown the economy and have 26 million unemployed people for this?
Anything to damage the economy Trump built.
Yep. There is no reason we aren't completely open right now. The ramifications of this shutdown are so detrimental. They are far worse than most Americans realize. The unintended consequences are HUGE.
This was supposed to be about "flattening the curve" not staying home indefinitely. Students need to be back on campus now. All students K-12 need to be back at class. This BS won't end until they start laying off teachers and school staff. Government workers, too.
Why is it when government shuts down for two weeks it is devastating? News story after news story about families needing to get back to work. But now the private sector can be closed indefinitely for months? I notice in MN they aren't opening clothing stores (no sales tax on clothing) but they can open tons of other stores. Why can I go in a liquor store and buy a bottle of wine, but I can't go in a hockey store and buy some pucks? Now, I know, I know...alcohol is an issue and if we close liquor stores people have withdrawel. I get it. That's not my point. I think all stores should be open. Not just the highly taxed liquor stores. Where would I be more likely to get Covid? A Walmart with tons of people or Total Hockey with 2 employees and 3 customers? Hmmm...these arbitrary restrictions are absolutely wrong and people need to start filing lawsuits.
Literally the flu.
If you haven't watched the two California ER docs posted on TD, I'd recommend it. Simple logic says this is mass hysteria.
I was lucky enough to watch it before YouTube removed it like the cucks they are at YouTube.
The vid is preserved! Some good pedes here have furnished the links, too.
Pretty close to the number I came up with if you're looking at total dead vs total population, but that's a largely irrelevant metric. Two different directions give you something more meaningful:
This is a sketchy metric right now for a couple reasons: nobody's doing anything and lots more will die, at least from health issues that are NOT CCPvirus because they've been turned away or are deliberately not getting medical care out of fear of catching de plague. We're also going to see a second wave no mattter what we do, and Trump pills would prevent that from turning into a lot more dead. Or hospitalized. Or needing a ventilator.
So all the numbers we have would be not very indicative of what's really going on, even if we were being told the truth. But we know we're being lied to.
All we have is total "confirmed cases," and comparing that to total dead. This is our most meaningful metric. We know this virus is highly contagious, so being able to estimate how many will die per how many catch it is significant. That number (IFR) was 6% for the US last night, using the numbers provided by worldometers.info. SD has .5%. You'd think Governors would be looking at that stark difference and wanting to duplicate whatever SD is doing differently.
Very interesting! I appreciate this insight. Thank you!