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BoughtByBloomberg -22 points ago +6 / -28

No they aren't tainted because 5 out of 50 million is not a causal effect. Anyway like I said, get it or don't. Not my problem, but don't pretend vaccines don't work.

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sun_wolf 11 points ago +12 / -1

Don’t pretend all vaccines are equal.

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TenScoops 3 points ago +3 / -0

vaccine diversity!

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FudgyFudgeBots 2 points ago +3 / -1

5? I had more than 5 in one season in one ER who had reactions ranging from high fever to Guillian Barre syndrome. I personally know someone who had a reactive arthritis but it was not reported because his doctor refused to believe a vaccine could cause harm.

How many go un reported because of physician's rigid thinking? They are willing to believe that meds can have severe side effects but not vaccines...go figure. Most dont even know that there are vaccines that were recalled due to serious adverse events.

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Overkillengine 2 points ago +2 / -0

Go back far enough and there were vaccines that could cause gran mal seizures and brain damage so severe as to inflict life long cerebral palsy.

How do I know this? Ask my brother...except he can't speak to answer.

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BoughtByBloomberg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Obviously a fever, in the case of an attenuated and not inactivated vaccine, can be easily linked causally. Reactive arthritis becomes harder, because what you're essentially saying it "the flu antigens caused a immune reaction that targeted the joints" as in if you would have gotten the flu you would have gotten a reactive arthritis anyway because that is how you reacted to the flu shot, which has flu in it. On top of that other viruses could have infected you in the mean time and caused it.

The problem is that you see a vaccine as something entirely different from the virus. It isn't. It is just virus particles which cause all the disease you mentioned. Flu as a complication has.... reactive arthritis! As do many other diseases. You wanna know how many hundreds of babies I have seen who got the sniffles and then parents show up in a panic because they won't use one leg?

Quick x-ray to be sure. No fever. It still laughs and plays with my stethoscope. Go home, it'll be fine in a week.

Guillian barre can also happen from the flu! So again why I said 5 in millions isn't odd is because it isn't HIGHER than the normal rate we see reactive arthritis and Guillian Barre FROM normal respiratory infections SUCH AS THE FLU.

Like I said, always read side effects. If these are UNACCEPTABLE to you DO NOT USE A MEDICATION. However flu vaccines (and again depends on which type and batch) show a far lower incidence of adverse events than just getting the flu.

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Peony 2 points ago +4 / -2

SneakyWino's neurologist doesn't have 50 million patients.