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Passwarden 61 points ago +61 / -0

The best thing to pull from those numbers isn't the contrast between COVID and the flu... It's the overall decrease in COVID deaths since March 28th:

March 28th: 2,659

April 4th: 7,932

April 11th: 11,864

April 18th: 9,333

April 25th: 2,167

Seems like the peak happened right around April 11th no? And if that's the case, Blue State Governors have lost the initiative and CAN NOT hide behind this slogan of "flatten the curve", the curve is about as flat as most of Joe Biden's victims at this point.

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Modus_Pwninz 34 points ago +34 / -0

They abandoned flatten the curve back around April 11th, lol.

Now it's "nothing is worth one life". In other words, "We are not opening shit until this is gone."

They all claim to be using data to back up their decisions, but they're all ignoring the numbers in favor of just being scared, clearly.

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k614 20 points ago +20 / -0

No, I think it's more like 'we're shutting this down until early November so that the democrat can win the election'.

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TennesseePride 14 points ago +14 / -0

They claim to being using data, but they certainly aren't using it correctly. My state is looking at new cases over time to see how we should open. They are looking at the new cases and saying that there is an upward trend. Well if two weeks ago, when testing wasn't as robust, you test 500 people in a day and 30 came back negative, that is a downward trend compared to today when you test 2000 people and 80 come back positive. They are only looking at the numerator, and these values are not in like terms. Anyone with the slightest clue about how you look at data would know this. It is set up to fail.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 0 points ago +3 / -3

An alternate criteria is the percentage of POSITIVE tests, as long as the number of tests are stable or increasing:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/#criteria

Downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period OR Downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests within a 14-day period (flat or increasing volume of tests)

Whether your state is using the alternative measure is an issue to take up with them.

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RosieODonald 2 points ago +2 / -0

Anyone wanting to discuss the "meta-science" behind testing, how the stats are gathered, are they comparable to other countries, can we estimate a mortality rate, etc., are labelled conspiracy theorists and bashed with "facts" consisting of sharing media articles and facebook memes.

i jUSt cArE abUt dA sCienCE bRo!

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Nadlers_Belt 8 points ago +8 / -0

“oh yeah? just wait two weeks!”

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thebestestbetsy2 7 points ago +7 / -0

I've tried explaining this many times to people on team apocalypse, but they still just hide behind "but the experts say..." or "I'll listen to the experts, not some rando-tRumper"

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Independenceforever 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's civil war though. they are doing their job of distracting and war gaming us to see what we'll put up with.

Negotiating with terrorists is not my strength.

Bill of Rights is non negotiable. Alter or Abolish.

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Yucky 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm not on team apocalypse of course, but you and everyone else on this thread are completely misreading the table.

Each row is the number of deaths THAT WEEK.

So there were 7,932 for the week of 4/4

2,167 for the week of 4/25

etc...

There's nothing suspicious about that.

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